Traditions of men vs the bible
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Westernville, NY

#108 Jan 12, 2011
pastor Stephen Bohr has an excellent video series on this long misunderstood parable check it out below.

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#109 Jan 12, 2011

Westernville, NY

#110 Jan 12, 2011
jesus told martha that he would raise lazarus up at the last day

Westernville, NY

#111 Jan 21, 2011
Have you been a follower of tradition more than a follower of the bible? do you beleive that people who die in the faith go straight to heaven upon death? if you answered yes to this question then it,s obvious that you,re a follower of tradition more than you are of the bible and gods word.

Westernville, NY

#112 Jan 26, 2011
cliff wrote:
The bible tells us that the hour will come in which all who are in their graves,where? in their graves shall come forth some to eternal life others to condemnation, it does not say that those who are in heaven or those who are in a place called hell will come forth. would that make any sense?
in their graves exactly,lol so why is it that that were told their in heaven?

Westernville, NY

#114 Jan 30, 2011
From the booklet "What is Man?" by Keith W. Stump

FEW BELIEFS are more widely held than that of the "immortal soul." Virtually everyone is familiar with the concept. The average religious person, if asked, would state it something like this:

A human person is both body and soul. The body is the physical flesh-and-blood "shell" temporarily housing the soul. The soul is the nonmaterial aspect, made of spirit. At death the soul leaves the body, and lives on consciously forever in heaven or hell.(Some hold that liberated souls are reborn in new bodies in a series of "reincarnations" or "transmigrations.")

Some form of this concept is found among virtually all peoples and religions in the world today. The average religious person generally takes the idea for granted.

Science, which deals with the material universe and physical data, cannot verify or deny the existence of any such soul.

How, then, can one know whether or not man really has an "immortal soul"?

Few have stopped to ask where the concept came from in the first place. Many simply assume it has its origin in the Bible.

So prepare yourself for what could be one of the big surprises of your life!

The idea of an "immortal soul" long predates the founding of today's major religions. The ancient Greek historian Herodotus (5th century B.C.) tells us in his History that the ancient Egyptians were the first to teach that the soul of man is separable from the body, and immortal. This Egyptian idea was centuries before Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Christianity and Islam came onto the scene.

Nowhere in the ancient world was the afterlife of more concern than in Egypt. The countless tombs unearthed by archaeologists along the Nile provide eloquent testimony to the Egyptian belief that man possessed a spiritual aspect extending beyond his physical life.

To the east, the ancient Babylonians also held a belief in a future life of the soul in a "lower world." But Babylonian beliefs were nowhere so elaborate as the Egyptian.

A person, the Egyptians believed, consisted of a physical body and not one but two souls that lived on after his death: a ka soul and a ba soul.

The ka was said to be a spirit replica of a man, containing the "vital force" given to him at birth. At death, the ka was believed to take up residence in a statue or picture of the deceased. The statue or picture was placed in the tomb for that very purpose. As the tomb was to be the eternal home of the ka, it was provided with everything the ka would need for a happy afterlife---food, furniture, games, reading material, grooming aids and the like.

The other soul, the ba, was held to be that part of man that enjoyed an eternal existence in heaven. It was believed to fly from the body with the last breath. The ba was often depicted on tomb paintings as a human-headed hawk hovering over the deceased's body. The ancient Egyptians believed the ba occasionally came back to "visit" the body in the tomb and to partake of the food and drink offerings there.

The famous Book of The Dead---a collection of ancient Egyptian funerary and ritual texts---lays out in great detail the many Egyptian beliefs about the afterlife. In one version of the work, dating from the 15th century B.C., the ba of a deceased person is pictured as asking one of the Egyptian gods, "How long have I to live?" To which the god replied: "Thou shalt exist for millions of millions of years, a period of millions of years." What better depiction of the concept of immortality?

Westernville, NY

#115 Feb 2, 2011
cliff wrote:
lets consider the very first lie ever told and how the majority have responded to it! the serpent said"thou shall not surely die"
Ecclesiastes 3:19-21 (King James Version)

19For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity.

20All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again.

21Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?

Westernville, NY

#116 Feb 14, 2011
mike wrote:
what proof do they provide as their heavenbound theory "assuredly i tell you today you will be with me in paradise" the dilemma here is where should the comma have been placed ,some bibles put the comma before the word today and some after. did the original bible which was written in hebrew and greek include commas and other punctuation,no it did not.did jesus ascend to his father after he died on the cross? jesus told mary not to cling to him for he has not yet ascended to his father.
THe original greek and Hebrew manuscripts did not include any commas etc...

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