Three more ships from Suisun Bay Reserve Fleet approved for dis...

As a ship recycling company eyeing Vallejo continues to wade through red tape on environmental regulations, three more World War II era-ships have been targeted for dismantling in Texas. Full Story
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Napan in Vallejo

Vallejo, CA

#22 Jan 6, 2010
The US Maritime Administration is an agency of the federal government. In their eyes, the issue of where these ships are dismantled has nothing to do with state government, which has no control over the agency.

There are more mothballed ships in the Suisun fleet slated to be dismantled. It's in our local best interest to see that local politicians do what they can to help clear the way and facilitate the permitting process so this work can happen here.
California Kid

San Francisco, CA

#23 Jan 6, 2010
VIB Reader wrote:
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VIB was never for or against it as far as I saw. Show me where they said something against it? As a matter of fact, they did an investigation of CA Drydock owner's current business (the scrap yard in Oakland) and they were impressed by his operation.
Its the feds you need to go after, George Miller in particular. What has he done for Vallejo?
VIB backs Gomes and Shivley, who were both against bringing ships on MI. They said it would be an eye sore and too much noise. So that makes VIB against ships on MI.

Keep dreaming if anyone thinks Vallejo will get any of the ships bringing in millions of dollars. Vallejo city council does not want ship, they want homes on MI and they want to give away MI for a $1.
GEE

Vallejo, CA

#24 Jan 6, 2010
What most of you are forgetting is that BEFORE these ships are sent to Texas they are cleaned in San Francisco, which amounts to a good chunk of business taken from us, here in Vallejo.
It looks like further footdragging is done to prevent this company to ever start up their business here.
Along the same line, ah waterfront: Has anyone followed the push to take the Iowa to San Pedro in S. California?
good bye so long

Vallejo, CA

#25 Jan 6, 2010
GEE wrote:
What most of you are forgetting is that BEFORE these ships are sent to Texas they are cleaned in San Francisco, which amounts to a good chunk of business taken from us, here in Vallejo.
It looks like further footdragging is done to prevent this company to ever start up their business here.
Along the same line, ah waterfront: Has anyone followed the push to take the Iowa to San Pedro in S. California?
there is a lot of interest judging from the hits on searches mentioning uss iowa and san pedro.

Since: Sep 09

Vallejo, CA

#26 Jan 6, 2010
"Anast said it is unfair to the Bay Area, which has been "injured" (environmentally) by having the decomposing ships in local waters, to now lose possible job creation and economic stimulus to other states."

That's it in a nutshell. Vallejo needs these jobs.
post 27

Vallejo, CA

#27 Jan 6, 2010
there just isn't any local advocates to fight for these jobs, all the way up to congressional level.
jocko

Vallejo, CA

#29 Jan 6, 2010
NeighborAide dot com wrote:
"Anast said it is unfair to the Bay Area, which has been "injured" (environmentally) by having the decomposing ships in local waters, to now lose possible job creation and economic stimulus to other states."
That's it in a nutshell. Vallejo needs these jobs.
I agree with your statement. The city doesnt want to dredge MI straight. Hell they wont even dredge the public boat launch. towing theses ships to SF to scrape the lead off is a joke. Just think of the lead thats flaking off in the bay between the mothball fleet to SF .. I just dont understand the theory behind all this crap.
DProud2700

AOL

#30 Jan 6, 2010
It is amazing that Rep George Miller is applauding the operation of getting rid of these ships, but why isn't he lobbying for the work to be done locally? Oh yeah I just remembered all the local military bases in the San Francisco Bay Area were evil and had to be shut down. Now we are trying to get them to be used as commercial operations and we are still getting screwed. Why doesn't someone ask Rep George Miller why we can't have the business?
Salty Dog

Glide, OR

#31 Jan 6, 2010
Every time you see Obama and Pelosi on TV Miller is right there with them. Being that he is so close to them can't he lobby a little for the home folks? His butt kissing has to be doing some good.
Out of Context

Reno, NV

#32 Jan 6, 2010
Finally!
Hey we need jobs here

American Canyon, CA

#33 Jan 6, 2010
Why can't we spend $3.4 Million at Mare Island? Why do we need spend $$ to haul these ships to Texas?
Why aren't local politicians vying for this opportunity HERE?
IRT

Petaluma, CA

#34 Jan 9, 2010
Hey we need jobs here wrote:
Why can't we spend $3.4 Million at Mare Island? Why do we need spend $$ to haul these ships to Texas?
Why aren't local politicians vying for this opportunity HERE?
Where did you get 3.4 million , the dry docking for the 3 is at a base of 1.669 million plus growth, the contractor gets 3.406 million to scrap,( source - Fed Biz Ops), the tow is about 720,000 plus each , the canal fee is about 130,000 to 150,000 each, each tow will expend dependent upon HP of tug between 190,000 to 270,000 gallons plus. That adds up to 2 to 3 times more than the 3.4 million cited. The scrap value of these vessels is 12 to 13 million, and will take around 250 to 300 personnel 8 to 10 months to scrap.
Snoops

Pleasanton, CA

#35 Jan 9, 2010
Hey we need jobs here wrote:
Why can't we spend $3.4 Million at Mare Island? Why do we need spend $$ to haul these ships to Texas?
Why aren't local politicians vying for this opportunity HERE?
Vallejo city council and VIB don't want the ships in Vallejo. They are an eye sore and make too much noise. This is from the city councils own mouths. Get used to it, they don't want any business coming to Vallejo.

Instead of planning for the ships, Vallejo city council has been spending all their money on bankruptcy attorneys, millions of tax dollars.
Hmmm

AOL

#36 Jan 9, 2010
Snoops wrote:
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Vallejo city council and VIB don't want the ships in Vallejo. They are an eye sore and make too much noise. This is from the city councils own mouths. Get used to it, they don't want any business coming to Vallejo.
Instead of planning for the ships, Vallejo city council has been spending all their money on bankruptcy attorneys, millions of tax dollars.
The VIB/City Council WANTS Vallejo to be bankruupt so that they can break the Unions, isn't it obvious by the lack of effort in developing ANYTHING on Mare Island and the million dollar loans forgiven to developers that the City Council has ZERO interest in bringing in revenue?
Snoops

Pleasanton, CA

#37 Jan 10, 2010
Hmmm wrote:
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The VIB/City Council WANTS Vallejo to be bankruupt so that they can break the Unions, isn't it obvious by the lack of effort in developing ANYTHING on Mare Island and the million dollar loans forgiven to developers that the City Council has ZERO interest in bringing in revenue?
Just wait and see what this all gets them down the road. They made a very bad mistake. Watch the same people move out of Vallejo, hahahha
Knowname

United States

#38 Jan 10, 2010
When the shipyard closed it killed this town, but we aready know that i guess.
Knowname

United States

#39 Jan 10, 2010
Oh yeah, we used to BUILD ships here. Nuclear submarines for chrissakes. Now we cant even take them apart.Sad huh.
Grissle

Vacaville, CA

#40 Jan 10, 2010
Knowname wrote:
When the shipyard closed it killed this town, but we aready know that i guess.
Actually the leaderless Council killed Vallejo.

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