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Santa Monica sued over its treatment of homeless people

There are 73 comments on the LA Daily News story from Jul 14, 2009, titled Santa Monica sued over its treatment of homeless people. In it, LA Daily News reports that:

The American Civil Liberties Union of Southern California today sued Santa Monica, alleging that police regularly violated the constitutional rights of homeless people by harassing them, arresting them and effectively running them out of the seaside town.

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Santa Monica

Santa Fe Springs, CA

#1 Jul 14, 2009
What do you expect us to DO with these dirt bags??? Bring them home for dinner. For Gods sake we DON'T WANT the bums. Send them ANYWHERE but here.
surfchickMB

Phoenix, AZ

#2 Jul 14, 2009
There are a lot of celebrities that live in Santa Monica that are so far left. Let them live with them.........
USA

United States

#3 Jul 14, 2009
Mark Rosenbaum and the ACLU are a bunch of miserable c unts
Johnny Popp

United States

#4 Jul 14, 2009
As a,former homeless, person I can attest to harrassment and being wrongfully jailed by LAPD!
They arrested me for sleeping on te sidewalk, jailed me for two days, ordered me to pay a $400. fine, and put me on one year of administrative probation.
I was NOT sleeping on ANY sidewalk!
But you plead guilty ~ if you decide to fight your case, you'll sit in jail until your case is over. When your finally vindicated in a court of law, you've already spent MORE time than you would by pleading guilty!
Is this Justice for innocent people, wrongly accused?
ExTexEsq

Fillmore, CA

#6 Jul 14, 2009
Santa Monica was a sancutary for the homeless for many years. Now since they do not contribute to the Tax Base in our Fee and Fines city, the City wishes to shift the responsability for Humanitarian Needs to "Anywhere but Here".
When Chief Jackman took over SMPD in 2008 from Chief Butts, he mandated to his supervisory Officers that "Santa Monica will be free of these Vermin, and Leaches" by the end of 2009.
The rich get richer, and more homeless are on the street EVERYDAY due to the current Economic situation.
I have lived in Santa Monica since 2000, and have witnessed the abuse of the homeless. Everything from prohibiting Meals in the Park, to Violations of the 4th amendment (Illegal Search) repeatedly by SMPD.
When a Citizen signs a complant, they are harrassed (e.g. 13 parking citations issued to a Handicapped Person) by the police department.

Shame on Santa Monica Police Department and the City Council that lets them get away with this on a Daily Basis. You don't want the Homeless sleeping in doorways or Parks. Then Put some of the Stimulus Money you are spending on New Toys for the Police into Homeless Housing and Social Services for them.
99.99% of them would rather have a Job and a roof, than Living off the generosity of others.
Being Homeless is not a Crime.. Except in Santa Monica.

“bamboo forest and an iced tea”

Since: Jul 08

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#7 Jul 14, 2009
all this suit will do is to keep the lawyers in a home with a "view" and the homeless homeless
Jack

United States

#8 Jul 14, 2009
This is done all over the USA. Having been a Police Officer in Texas I have seen this first hand. The problem is that Rehab Centers are supposed to intake these people though if they are known to be violent individuals they will not accept them. Jails will also not take these people for liability reasons. To get one even incarcerated it takes jumping through hoops to even attempt this because of the laws on the books that contradict themselves. The police must follow a set of laws and rules, the Department of Health follow a different set of rules and this is where the problem lies. Police are not capable of taking care of the mentally challenged and the people that are supposed to will only do so if the person will meet their criteria. This is another cycle of life which has existed for many, many years and everyone responsible just shuffles the responsibility down the line. So you have 1000's of homeless people that eventually become mentally ill because of improper diets and shunned by humanity living in the streets and being harassed because of our countries leadership not willing to deal with the responsibility of taking care of these unfortunate souls.
Coach

Westlake Village, CA

#9 Jul 14, 2009
A society is judged by the way it treats its most vulnerable citizens. Try to keep that in mind you ruthless, uncompassionate swine.
Confused

Temecula, CA

#10 Jul 14, 2009
Why are we letting the ACLU get away with this? Now they want to force cities (tax payers) to have a homeless shelter? The ACLU needs to go!
Henry95

Plymouth, MN

#11 Jul 14, 2009
ACLU is in it for the money just like any ambulance chaser, except that the ACLU hides its greed behind the Constitution. Let's see, Laguna Beach, Santa Barbara, and now Santa Monica. Next stop for this racket is surely Newport Beach, and then on to La Jolla.
jannell

Cerritos, CA

#13 Jul 14, 2009
Why should a beautiful beach community like Santa Monica have to shelter the homeless, they urinate & defecate on public land, creating a smelly and deseased conditions.. Why arent their families taking care of them or at lest paying for their upkeep?
Louweegie272

Buena Park, CA

#14 Jul 14, 2009
I'm not sure if it's true, but I heard that some of the other beach communities like Manhattan Beach bus their own homeless to Santa Monica. I also heard that the owners of the Santa Monica Pier built a homeless shelter on Pico and 23rd to get them away from the beach. What does the ACLU want?
Anyomus

Los Angeles, CA

#15 Jul 14, 2009
What does that really mean if your mentally ill or have physcal problems its ok for you sleep on the streets or beaches in Santa Monica but not the lazy criminal felons that an employer would have to be desprate to hire them. As a homeless people young lazy , wanted felon of another state. What pisses me off is how can have so many services for the homeless here, food lines, showers, a place to wash your closes. But your suppose leave town for the night. But hey some people say the city employees in charge of city vans and cars leave them unlocked at night and can sleep in there just be gone by 5 in the morning.
richie

United States

#16 Jul 14, 2009
when will the ACLU build a homeless shelter ??
Robin Daniels

Inglewood, CA

#17 Jul 14, 2009
Wasn't SM once know (KCRW) as "the home of the homeless?"
FedUp

Redondo Beach, CA

#18 Jul 14, 2009
ExTexEsq wrote:
Santa Monica was a sancutary for the homeless for many years. Now since they do not contribute to the Tax Base in our Fee and Fines city, the City wishes to shift the responsability for Humanitarian Needs to "Anywhere but Here".
When Chief Jackman took over SMPD in 2008 from Chief Butts, he mandated to his supervisory Officers that "Santa Monica will be free of these Vermin, and Leaches" by the end of 2009.
The rich get richer, and more homeless are on the street EVERYDAY due to the current Economic situation.
I have lived in Santa Monica since 2000, and have witnessed the abuse of the homeless. Everything from prohibiting Meals in the Park, to Violations of the 4th amendment (Illegal Search) repeatedly by SMPD.
Doubtful!...Please read Terry v Ohio and also look at what the SC designates as "reasonable suspicion" in order to conduct a search.

The 4th is really not as what the lay person conceives.
TEB

Los Angeles, CA

#19 Jul 14, 2009
American Civil Liberties Union of Southern California does not have homeless people in their backyard. I want to see how they would feel when they have a drunken crowd "partying" and "screaming" under their bedroom windows. Would the American Civil Liberties Union of Southern California want their wife, sisters, daughter or any woman parkher car and wal to her home when a bunch of drunken men a laying around half passed out and half naked?? I guess they do not live in Santa Monica. Homlessness in Santa Monica is like a cancer growing with no relief in sight. It is not about poor mentally ill people. It is about drugs, alcohol, violence and disturbance of the piece.
FedUp

Redondo Beach, CA

#20 Jul 14, 2009
Coach wrote:
A society is judged by the way it treats its most vulnerable citizens. Try to keep that in mind you ruthless, uncompassionate swine.
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
lilt

Los Angeles, CA

#21 Jul 14, 2009
It' ok to be compationate and all, but how about those homeless urinating and defecating in your backyard?? there are probably couple of mentally ill but the majority is high on drugs and totally drunk. The homeless person that go to the centers, gets re-habilitated, gets a job and get out of the streets gets my respect and my help, but not the one urinating, defecating and taking advantage of what the city has to offer. We have enough centers that cater to helping the homeless. If they want help they need to start by helping themselves to what these centers have to offer and get off the street. I lived in Santa Monica for 30 years and I still see the same homeless people around. You mean to tell me that in 30 years they could not find anything, any program, any center to help them get off the streets??? pleaaaase!!! give me a break!!!!
George W Bush

Lynwood, CA

#22 Jul 14, 2009
let them stay at the staples center..just put it on our tab

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