Pecos River falling victim to drought

Aug 24, 2012 Full story: Carlsbad Current-Argus 33

Stretches of the Pecos River are going dry, shorelines at state parks up and down the waterway are changing and there are islands popping up that weren't there before.

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Carlsbad Resident

Carlsbad, NM

#1 Aug 24, 2012
Hmmmm Pecos River falling victim to drought.
Worried

Carlsbad, NM

#2 Aug 24, 2012
Carlsbad Resident wrote:
Hmmmm Pecos River falling victim to drought.
Nothing was mentioned about Carlsbad water supply being affected by the drought, and being sucked dry By big oil and natural gas.

have any of you thought to look at the water going over the dam, Carlsbad Springs are drying up, all of this water being pumped out of the ground by the oil companies drying up the Springs, pretty soon you people that live on the river you are going to have nothing but dirt to look at.

Drinking water hearing Carlsbad is already getting kind of funky red clay in it.
TheDoc

Carlsbad, NM

#3 Aug 25, 2012
Carlsbad Resident wrote:
Hmmmm Pecos River falling victim to drought.
O'rly?
Carlsbad Resident

Hobbs, NM

#4 Aug 25, 2012
Dairy cattle , beef cattle , hogs , chickens , turkeys also corn , soybeans and wheat fields depend on rain.

The biggest things that depend on rain are water tables , Rivers with Reservoirs, that is where your drinking water, bath water, everything that you use in your home comes from.

Oil companies , Natural gas companies are sucking these water tables dry,- look down the road people, look at the future -, "" what if this drought is just starting "" think about it people.

Without water what do you have nothing !
Doug

Palmdale, CA

#5 Aug 25, 2012
Yes but you must remember that oil company C.E.O'S need more money for their multiple houses , boats and private jets. You don't want to deprive them of these goodies do you.
drill baby drill

Carlsbad, NM

#6 Aug 26, 2012
The water tables in our region have been sucked dry by drought and the drilling for natural gas and oil. The potash industries also use hundreds of thousands of gallons of water that is labeled for commercial use(not treated for potability)that could have been reserved in our groundwater but big money and industry don't care if you dont have water to drink, they will just sell it to you for $1.99 in an attractive bottle. The sad thing is that the state and city know of this but they are just as corrupt as big industry. Money talks and bs walks, unfortunately money gives bad advice.
Carlsbad Resident

Hobbs, NM

#7 Aug 26, 2012
drill baby drill wrote:
The water tables in our region have been sucked dry by drought and the drilling for natural gas and oil. The potash industries also use hundreds of thousands of gallons of water that is labeled for commercial use(not treated for potability)that could have been reserved in our groundwater but big money and industry don't care if you dont have water to drink, they will just sell it to you for $1.99 in an attractive bottle. The sad thing is that the state and city know of this but they are just as corrupt as big industry. Money talks and bs walks, unfortunately money gives bad advice.
Carlsbad Springs are drying up because of this drought and pumping, pretty soon people who live on the River will have nothing but dry River bed to look at.:-)
Larry00

United States

#8 Oct 14, 2012
Irrigation uses far more than Drilling or Mining !
Our Springs in Carlsbad are fed from the Mountains!
Go to the Library and you can find Pictures of the Pecos River a hundred years ago or so and it was many times more flow than today !
There were 1500 rivers and springs between Texas and California in the 1840's and now there are half that many .
The California Gold Rush would have had no southern route if today's conditions existed then .
Half the Springs no longer exist.
Water tables in major Midwest Aquifers are dropping a foot a year and no one knows when they will only contain brine .
El Paso already had to convert to using Osmosis to clean briney well water for the city to have clean water!
Lucy

Carlsbad, NM

#9 Oct 14, 2012
Larry00 wrote:
Irrigation uses far more than Drilling or Mining !
Our Springs in Carlsbad are fed from the Mountains!
Go to the Library and you can find Pictures of the Pecos River a hundred years ago or so and it was many times more flow than today !
There were 1500 rivers and springs between Texas and California in the 1840's and now there are half that many .
The California Gold Rush would have had no southern route if today's conditions existed then .
Half the Springs no longer exist.
Water tables in major Midwest Aquifers are dropping a foot a year and no one knows when they will only contain brine .
El Paso already had to convert to using Osmosis to clean briney well water for the city to have clean water!
Is it okay to keep having more babies?
Mitt Mormon

Carlsbad, NM

#10 Oct 14, 2012
Lucy wrote:
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Is it okay to keep having more babies?
Seriously, it is not! Stop Humanity NOW! Jesus Christ and God Almighty have
totally given up on mankind! Have not seen or heard from their as$es for how many generations? If it was not for fuc*&^% there would not be any people anyway. Let us as human beings do the right thing and stop procreating and give this POS planet back to the animals that can really take care of it - domesticated primates like us need to die and get the fu%$ out of the way!
Lucy

Carlsbad, NM

#11 Oct 15, 2012
Mitt Mormon wrote:
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Seriously, it is not! Stop Humanity NOW! Jesus Christ and God Almighty have
totally given up on mankind! Have not seen or heard from their as$es for how many generations? If it was not for fuc*&^% there would not be any people anyway. Let us as human beings do the right thing and stop procreating and give this POS planet back to the animals that can really take care of it - domesticated primates like us need to die and get the fu%$ out of the way!
Calm down Mitt, I did not really mean it (sarcastic), of course the humans are going to ruin the earth with their expansion.
Lucy

Carlsbad, NM

#12 Oct 15, 2012
Anyway, how many children does Mitt have?
Jim

Carlsbad, NM

#13 Oct 15, 2012
The city water dept. just finished laying a new 10 inch water line on Airport Rd for the oil companies. It will furnish water to BES trucking company and for a new brine well. Congratulations to our mayor and city council for helping to deplete our drinking water reserves. But don't you water your yard, hear!
Jingo Jack

Rio Rancho, NM

#14 Oct 15, 2012
Too much H2O is being wasted by leaving water caches in the desert for illegal immigrants to help them make their clandestine crossings to this land of diminishing plenty. I say capture all the illegal aliens, distill the water from their bodies, and let the greedy oil companies suck on that.
Miep

Carlsbad, NM

#15 Oct 15, 2012
Wow, great comment thread. Where are all you intelligent people hiding out?
Jingo Jack

Rio Rancho, NM

#17 Oct 16, 2012
I work for the State.
Larry00

United States

#18 Oct 16, 2012
Lucy wrote:
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Is it okay to keep having more babies?
Remember the Star Trek Movie that said we were nothing but a carbon based blight on the planet ?
Unchecked that's pretty close !

Back in the 70's we were supposed to have starved to death by now but we learned to raise even more food per acre and feed them all !

Raising all that food comes at a cost to the environment !
Something like 140 gallons of water to raise enough corn to make a gal of E 85 .

Yeah we have been successful as a species ! Too successful it seems .
In past times war starvation and sickness kept populations down ! Not so much now !

I'm sure there will be an adjustment ! Hope I'm gone already before it happens !
It will be worse in countries like India with large populations !

We already have a large Genocide program in place for our Lazy population who won't use birth control which is plentiful and cheap !
Got to admit we are more humane than the Romans who simply threw new born babies who were unwanted in the dump !
People wanting slaves were free to go down and find one still alive !
Guess they were the lucky one !
We should visit Roman History because we are repeating it !
Jingo Jack

Rio Rancho, NM

#19 Oct 16, 2012
The adjustment is underway. People are just to selfish to sense it.
U R still an Idiot

Carlsbad, NM

#20 Oct 17, 2012
Carlsbad Resident wrote:
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Carlsbad Springs are drying up because of this drought and pumping, pretty soon people who live on the River will have nothing but dry River bed to look at.:-)
Carlsbad springs are out of the Capitan aquifer. It is completely unrelated to any drilling southeast or northeast of Carlsbad. Drought has an effect, but not drilling. River is at the same level it has been all year. Pull your head out of your @$$. By far the largest water use in the area, by a factor of more than ten is agriculture. Always has been, probably always will be.

Before you start cr@pping on a good industry here in town, check your freakin facts. I called the NM Office of the State Engineer for mine. By the way, I was also told that Carlsbad has more water rights per capita in New Mexico than any other town in the eastern or southern halves of the state. I also found out that Carlsbad's agricultural community controls most of the water on the Pecos River and chooses to keep a good deal of the water stored in the dams up north because it is colder during the summer so the drilling is not responsible for Brantley Lake being this low either.
U R an Idiot 2

Carlsbad, NM

#21 Oct 17, 2012
Jim wrote:
The city water dept. just finished laying a new 10 inch water line on Airport Rd for the oil companies. It will furnish water to BES trucking company and for a new brine well. Congratulations to our mayor and city council for helping to deplete our drinking water reserves. But don't you water your yard, hear!
Why would you need a water line if you have a well!? Also, BES doesn't own a trucking company.

What I did find out is that there is no fire protection on Airport Road for the four residences and six businesses along the road. Maybe that is why the City is installing the 10" pipeline there.

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