Shooter in 1967 New Mexico courthouse raid dies

Aug 28, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Seattle Post-Intelligencer

In this Feb. 2, 2012 photo, Chicano Movement leader Reies Lopez Tijerina, left, is greeted by rancher Juan Valdez, 74, of Canjilon, NM, right, after an event honoring the 164th anniversary of the signing of the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo at the New Mexico Statehouse in Santa Fe, N.M. Valdez, a land grant activist who fired the first shot during a ... (more)

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Aug 29, 2012
 
Some called him a activist - many called this
low life a criminal.

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Some called him a activist - many called this
low life a criminal.
A domestic terrorist or enemy combatant by today's standards.

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Aug 29, 2012
 
Wow, there's a blast from the past.
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Citizen's arrest! Citizen's arrest!

Domestic terrorist, my ass. Just a cowardly beansuck.
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RIP my friend. Sadly men such as this are few and far between -- mostly fattend lazy cowards exist here who allow their freedoms to be eroded daily and sit on their a$$ while it happens -- NOT Reies a true Revolutionary: VIVA Reies!

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dpb wrote:
RIP my friend. Sadly men such as this are few and far between -- mostly fattend lazy cowards exist here who allow their freedoms to be eroded daily and sit on their a$$ while it happens -- NOT Reies a true Revolutionary: VIVA Reies!
Prepare to be berated:-)

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RIP my friend. Sadly men such as this are few and far between -- mostly fattend lazy cowards exist here who allow their freedoms to be eroded daily and sit on their a$$ while it happens -- NOT Reies a true Revolutionary: VIVA Reies!
Reies was no revolutionary...just a carpetbagging, opportunistic, thug. While Martin Luther King was showing the world how true heros can bring about peaceful change, Reies and Valdez were trying to make their point by assaulting police officers. The fact that anyone could consider these violent pukes to be heros is disgraceful.

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Lobo Viejo wrote:
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Reies was no revolutionary...just a carpetbagging, opportunistic, thug. While Martin Luther King was showing the world how true heros can bring about peaceful change, Reies and Valdez were trying to make their point by assaulting police officers. The fact that anyone could consider these violent pukes to be heros is disgraceful.
It wasn't a black and white situation, Lobo. There was thug behavior on both sides during that era. The law was hardly trying to keep the peace in an objective manner back then (or even now, often.)
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Being "berated" by this bunch of cowards and a$$ sitting fools doesn't bother me one bit -- These worthless, whining so-called citizens will wimper as they are led to their demise and still do nothing.

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Being "berated" by this bunch of cowards and a$$ sitting fools doesn't bother me one bit -- These worthless, whining so-called citizens will wimper as they are led to their demise and still do nothing.
That's quite a profound confession on your part. You're finally getting a handle on your future. Must be one of your rare 'non-high' moments.
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Aug 31, 2012
 
NAW, You've got to remember it's the beginning of harvest season in NM. <snicker> You know green chile and all. LOL

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Lobo Viejo wrote:
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Reies was no revolutionary...just a carpetbagging, opportunistic, thug. While Martin Luther King was showing the world how true heros can bring about peaceful change, Reies and Valdez were trying to make their point by assaulting police officers. The fact that anyone could consider these violent pukes to be heros is disgraceful.
I don't agree with the armed raid that took place, or that someone lost their life. But, did you know that they tried to get the Sheriff to investigate the burning of their home? Or, that they contacted the FBI? Or that they wrote a letter to Eisenhower and got the cold shoulder? Or that he was tried and acquitted and then later was retried again? Read the book, "The Raid on Tierra Amarilla". I don't remember the author, but it is a historical view about all the events that led up to the armed raid. I will never condone violence, and think that by arming themselves it was their downfall, but I do understand the events that led up to that fateful day.

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elise in burque wrote:
<quoted text>It wasn't a black and white situation, Lobo. There was thug behavior on both sides during that era. The law was hardly trying to keep the peace in an objective manner back then (or even now, often.)
I am not questioning the fact that Chicanos were then, and still are, subjected to some pretty grave injustices. African Americans in the 1960's were subjected to poverty, beatings, rapes and lynchings. And some Blacks fought back in race riots, only to be suppressed with water cannons, clubs, tear gas and bullets. But it was Martin Luther King who, in his mission to get equality for African Americans, peacefully, taught us that "violence begets violence".

I'm sorry, but two wrongs have never made a right.

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I am not questioning the fact that Chicanos were then, and still are, subjected to some pretty grave injustices. African Americans in the 1960's were subjected to poverty, beatings, rapes and lynchings. And some Blacks fought back in race riots, only to be suppressed with water cannons, clubs, tear gas and bullets. But it was Martin Luther King who, in his mission to get equality for African Americans, peacefully, taught us that "violence begets violence".
I'm sorry, but two wrongs have never made a right.
I don't agree with your oversimplification of a very complex issue, but it's your opinion and I respect it.

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elise in burque wrote:
<quoted text>I don't agree with your oversimplification of a very complex issue, but it's your opinion and I respect it.
If you have the time to fill in the gaps of my oversimplification of this issue, I would be most grateful.

Faith, feel free to enlighten me too.

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Being "berated" by this bunch of cowards and a$$ sitting fools doesn't bother me one bit -- These worthless, whining so-called citizens will wimper as they are led to their demise and still do nothing.
I feel safer knowing that patriots like you are here to fire up your pot pipes in anger. The more you smoke, the more your narcissistic delusions seem real.

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Lobo Viejo wrote:
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If you have the time to fill in the gaps of my oversimplification of this issue, I would be most grateful.
Faith, feel free to enlighten me too.
Lobo, it was many years ago that I read a couple of different books on Tierra Amarilla. The two I would suggest would be the one I mentioned before, it is a historical view, and "Tierra Amarilla". It changed my perspective about Tijerina, whom for years I thought was nothing more than a criminal. Again, I don't condone violence, but I truly understand the events that led up to them arming themselves.

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I feel safer knowing that patriots like you are here to fire up your pot pipes in anger. The more you smoke, the more your narcissistic delusions seem real.
You don't seem like the anti-pot type. Just saying...
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Whine on Lobo -- However, I could give a $hit how "safe" you feel: Keep feeling "safe" while the Nation collapses into a Police State around you. Also, you don't like pot -- don't smoke it -- none of your business who else does.

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Also, you don't like pot -- don't smoke it -- none of your business who else does.
That's the mentality that comes along with smoking mota. It illustrates just how disconnected you are with society as you huddle in your little smoke filled shell of self pity and cowardice.

You strike me as an intelligent individual, in those posting moments when mote is not invading your senses.

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