Private security guards to supplement...

Private security guards to supplement police patrols in downtown Sa...

There are 147 comments on the Santa Cruz Sentinel story from Sep 2, 2010, titled Private security guards to supplement police patrols in downtown Sa.... In it, Santa Cruz Sentinel reports that:

Downtown visitors will see more uniformed officers patrolling Pacific Avenue this month, but the new faces will not be police.

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Lucas

AOL

#1 Sep 2, 2010
At least one Sentinel reporter was watching the 6 o'clock news. Why is the Sentinel always the last local news agency to report on a story?
john doe

Scotts Valley, CA

#2 Sep 2, 2010
First Alarm is downtown every day and night. They are more likely to hassle you.

Boardwalk security guards have used the city police channels for decades despite FCC regulations prohibiting this practice. Frequencies such as 154.770, 155.880 and similiar are licensed exclusively to public law enforcement agencies. They are defined as the city police, county sheriff, highway patrol etc. The list of authorized users do not include privare security guards.

How nice, the new police chief just can't wait to commit a federal offense. Wanna yap with First Alarm? Use cellular phone which has no service restrictions.
Fred Reiss

Santa Cruz, CA

#3 Sep 2, 2010
Hey, since Iraq had closed shop, Blackwater needed the work.
JDUB

Sunnyvale, CA

#4 Sep 2, 2010
Welcome the private police force! Between this and the militarization of our law enforcement signals the progression of tyranny.
Fred Reiss

Santa Cruz, CA

#5 Sep 2, 2010
I can tell you why the Sentinel is watching Tv, it's because Media News group purchased all the local papers and fired most of the staff.
All knowing

Santa Cruz, CA

#6 Sep 2, 2010
Lucas wrote:
At least one Sentinel reporter was watching the 6 o'clock news. Why is the Sentinel always the last local news agency to report on a story?
LOL! I wondered the same thing. This story was on the 5:00 TV News also. Much needed response even if I did have to hear what is going on in Santa Cruz from Salinas first!
Susan Karimchise

United States

#7 Sep 2, 2010
Who is that guy selling jewellery on the sidewalk outside the SC coffee roasting co?
Is that permitted?
just saying

Alamo, CA

#8 Sep 2, 2010
We've been complaining bitterly about the state of downtown, so I'm all for trying this and seeing if it helps the situation. I'm hoping the security guards are supposed to call the police if they see drug deals and other illegal behavior so it's addressed promptly. I would guess they will provide just a presence and extra eyes with a direct link to the SCPD. Most security guards that I've seen around don't look like they could or should handle any type of confrontation.
the original curious cat

Santa Cruz, CA

#10 Sep 2, 2010
Fred Reiss wrote:
Hey, since Iraq had closed shop, Blackwater needed the work.
my thoughts exactly. how will these private security guards be made accountable to the public. what happens if they apply brutality or target certain groups over others. what civil rights laws apply to them?

moreover, why should citizens foot the bill for security for downtown merchants, bars and nightclubs? they should be paying for these guards.

two issues: security guard accountability and externalizing downtown business costs to the public.
the dog

Santa Cruz, CA

#12 Sep 2, 2010
"We want them walking around, talking to people."

What a joke and waste of money.

Another waste is arresting someone and taking 4 hours to get back on the street. It's stupid and its wrong. Yes the system may have created this monster, but it's stupid and should be fixed.
It's like a big dance, lets see how much we can take away from getting the job done and still complain about the job not getting done. Then hire these other guys to pretend like the job is getting done.
Blackwater

Alameda, CA

#13 Sep 2, 2010
I'm sure Blackwater is going to get the next contract and turn downtown SC into a war zone.
uh Clem

San Francisco, CA

#15 Sep 2, 2010
Security guard accountability is governed by Law. First Alarm has been in the area for a long time, they have a reputation to protect, and they want to stay in business.

Police departments experimenting with outsourcing security service could be a big cost saving by avoiding pensions and other costs that are increasingly hard to pay. Why pay full ticket for a police officer where all you need is a "mall cop?"

Finally, just how big a deal is this story given that the cost is $5000 ? "Three First Alarm security guards will be trained; one will patrol each day." Not exactly Custer Battles at the BIAP 2003 is it.
yahoo

Santa Cruz, CA

#16 Sep 2, 2010
"I think it's a great experiment," said Ryan Coonerty, a Santa Cruz City Councilman and downtown business owner. "It's amazing when you walk along with police officers how everyone straightens up and crime goes away, so the more often that happens, the better."

Coonerty, you are a real kook. Crime won't go away just because you have clowns, oppss, I mean, security guards walking around downtown in the mornings.
Jaydog

Santa Cruz, CA

#17 Sep 2, 2010
It's all for show people, not about actually cleaning up downtown. Security guards in the morning and early afternoon? How about security guards from like 8 PM till 4 AM when most the crime is going down. They should at least give them orange vests, brooms and dustpans!
Rancho loco

Bozeman, MT

#18 Sep 2, 2010
BWAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAH AAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!

Mall cops?? Seriously???

BWAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAH AAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!
SC_Local

Santa Cruz, CA

#19 Sep 2, 2010
Blackwater wrote:
I'm sure Blackwater is going to get the next contract and turn downtown SC into a war zone.
Do you read the sentinel? It's already a war zone down there, stabbings, shootings, fights, maybe we should turn Blackwater loose!
Names Chip

Napa, CA

#20 Sep 2, 2010
Congrats from up here in Marion Hollins land. I look down upon the poor City and lay witness to its demise. I was once a fair citizen down there as well but threw in the towel or should we say snot rag. First Alarm patrols my neighborhood as well and does a bang up job. The founder is local and has put his name on the map for Greater Bay Area security. Perhaps the City should court First Alarm as a location for its headquarters. That's my two cents. Can't wait to read about the next homocide.
Thanks Vogel

San Lorenzo, CA

#22 Sep 2, 2010
I'm glad to see it. I'm looking forward to some more innovative problem solving skills. BRING IT!
Patrick

Santa Cruz, CA

#23 Sep 2, 2010
"Stop or I'll say stop again"
I would not argue

Santa Cruz, CA

#24 Sep 2, 2010
with the "mall cop" First Alarm security guard we have where I work. The gentleman is not a small or unintelligent man.
Don't be surprised if they begin providing enough observed information to the LEO's to garner charges and or convictions when they testify in court.
Let's give it a try it can't make things worse right? Something's gotta give. Either we unite and stand against the crime or surrender to it. There isn't an in between gray area here.
Just sayin' but I'm am sick of the criminals regardless or race, color, creed or legality. A crook is a crook!

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