Monterey County asks judge to throw o...

Monterey County asks judge to throw out defamation suit filed by men who said they were victims o...

There are 5 comments on the Santa Cruz Sentinel story from Nov 24, 2010, titled Monterey County asks judge to throw out defamation suit filed by men who said they were victims o.... In it, Santa Cruz Sentinel reports that:

Monterey County is asking a judge to quickly throw out a defamation lawsuit against the Sheriff's Office filed by two men who contend they lost a world-class collection of art to thieves.

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Good For Them

Los Angeles, CA

#2 Nov 24, 2010
Scam an insurance comany, really get a clue. They have spent 50% of what any claim payout would have been on attorney fees, look at the court recorda.$500k in insurance for millions in losses, four days for sheriff to show up, no evidence collected, best friend if sheriff is a suspect, sends his friend to investigate, far fetched claims made by the sheriff with zero evidence, no witnesses ever contacted yet you people beleive whatever a fired by the people corrupt sheriff told you. Take away his statements and you would have a different opinion of these men. Did you know they were planning on opening a museum in Monterey. This loss was a loss for the entire community not just these two men.

The Sheriff lost his re-election bid in Monterey County in part because of this lawsuit. It will be interesting because if the Sheriff lied for his friend he made a grave mistake that cost him his job and he is not immune from suit because he lied and according to the court papers knew he was being dishonest. Also evidence is very damaging and supports the two mens claims, both that the art was stolen and that the corrupt former sheriff in Monterey has been caught lying to help his friend. The plot thickens.

I commend these two men for taking on one of the most powerful and corrupt sheriff's in the country. Very few have the ability to stand up against governmental agencies who have wronged them. People should not fear their government the government should fear it's people. Let's face the facts if what the sheriff said was true these men would not have sued.
Keep Up The Fight

Santa Cruz, CA

#3 Nov 24, 2010
It would be malpractice for the Monterey County Attorney to not have filed that motion. These two men keep fighting, I predict a big win, citizens should be able to have recourse against law enforcement who knowingly lie about them, making outrageous claims with no evidence, or ability to bring charges. I mean really it took them four days to show up and the Sheriff never conducted an investigation.

Don Ratcliff / Donald Ratcliff is the very influential man, according to public court records, that caused this whole mess and cost the Sheriff his job. The Sheriff was influenced by his buddy Don Ratcliff / Donald Ratcliff who had it out for Amadio who was dating his daughter, he did not approve, and the court documents show the rest. This man Donald Ratcliff / Don Ratcliff lends his million dollar helicopter to the former sheriff, as well as his piloting skills, time and fuel. He also donated a large sum of money to the sheriff's failed re-election bid. Sounds like Don Ratcliff / Donald Ratcliff of Monterey / Salinas lied and those lies known by the Sheriff cost him his job and caused the victims of the art theft great harm. Just Google them. Good luck finding a job after that. The actions of that Sheriff cannot be condoned in our society under any circumstance. For the Sheriff to be immune they must have honestly been doing their jobs, which clearly they were not, repeating known lies by your friend is not in furtherance of a legitimate investigation for which the immunity is needed. It's the opposite reason the law was created, namely, to help the court system, not hinder it.

Had this happened in Santa Cruz the art would have been located and the thief's arrested because we have a real Sheriff that cares about this community and it's citizens.

As I understand it was an inside job yet the victims have yet to be throughly questioned as to whom they believe is at fault. Look close what about their former attorney under investigation by the state bar for complaints filed against her by all but one of her former clients. What about her husband that claimed in the press he was obtaining insurance quotes, yet has no license with the state insurance commission to issue casualty insurance? As I understand at the time of the theft there were repo orders for the victims attorney and her husbands vehicles. Can you spell MOTIVE and OPPORTUNITY. They may be innocent but it seems odd that these two have not been investigated as it appears they had something to do with their clients lost art. Something a real Sheriff such as ours would have discovered on this Boulder Creek Attorney and her husband during a real investigation, had the theft happened here.
Really Laws Help Govt

Santa Cruz, CA

#4 Nov 24, 2010
How can law enforcement lie, to everyone, know they are lying, then claim immunity. In the digital age those lies will follow and harm whomever they lied about forever? I find it hard to believe our laws are designed to allow our government to lie with reckless disregard for the truth of their statements or to knowingly lie and then somehow claim immunity because it helps the legal system. BS. Sounds like the men of the art theft had enough of the Monterey Sheriff and his buddy and they have the resources to do something about it. Shame of that Sheriff and his friends for abusing these men and our legal system. Good thing the people of Monterey voted him out. What a liability.
So Confused

Santa Cruz, CA

#5 Nov 24, 2010
How can a Sheriff do this to anyone and then claim immunity? Something stinks with the Sheriff's story and it sounds like the men of the art theft found what was rotting. I don't believe anyone even our elected officials can claim that a lie they state to the press, they did lie to the press, knowingly, is part of their We don't pay these people to knowingly lie about citizens who call them out on their mistakes and corruption and coverups. In the business world the victims would be hero whistleblowers but in the CA Sheriff world they are defamed terribly and don't even get an apology from the people that lied, the Sheriff and his friends. One world, Joe Taxpayer world, it's whistleblowers exposing criminal corporate corruption as heros, do the same to our government and they are not criminals and immune from any civil recourse? I think the judge may see past the Sheriff's continued lies and these men will eventually prevail for the injustice and indignity they have suffered at the hands of the Monterey County Sheriff.

Since: May 08

San Jose, CA

#6 Nov 25, 2010
I was thinking this was just an erroneous gold digging excursion. But when law enforcement tries to claim immunity from the very laws they enforce, it spells CORRUPTION.

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