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Council takes another step in cracking down on party homes in Santa...

There are 55 comments on the Santa Cruz Sentinel story from Jun 9, 2010, titled Council takes another step in cracking down on party homes in Santa.... In it, Santa Cruz Sentinel reports that:

The city is taking an extra step in cracking down on houses where loud, bawdy parties take place.

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okay

United States

#42 Jun 9, 2010
Its been proven in Santa Cruz County that a tenant can drag it out to 6 months if need be. They just need to keep showng up in court and have a reason for asking more time. A judge will give more time and set another court date 30-45 days later. Which more time may or may not be granted at the next court date. Repeat.
Tho most problem tenants are too lazy to show up for court.
Just Sayin

Pacifica, CA

#43 Jun 9, 2010
peter wrote:
I would guess Constantin does not allow loud and unruly parties at his B&B.
Time to rent a room at the B&B (with cash) and invite all your friends for an all night party. Constantin wouldn't want to discriminate against us just for having a party. Right?
Local

Belmont, CA

#44 Jun 9, 2010
Why cant UCSC just house the students on campus? rental prices would go down for us hard working folks and neighborhoods would be mostly quiet from loud student parties.....
Reality Check

Pacifica, CA

#45 Jun 9, 2010
Local wrote:
Why cant UCSC just house the students on campus? rental prices would go down for us hard working folks and neighborhoods would be mostly quiet from loud student parties.....
College students - certainly juniors and seniors, for the most part, wouldn't live on campus if you paid them. That's just a reality.
Matt Kay

Brentwood, CA

#46 Jun 9, 2010
I rented to UCSC students. Over the years the rooms turned over until it was UCSC drop-outs, followed by Cabrillo students, followed by Cabrillo drop-outs, and finally low-life westside methheads with college drop-out girl friends also on meth. I booted all of them finally, dropped $35K and changed my business plan including lowering rent to attract a family of professionals. Here is the breakdown. If you keep your home in poor condition and do not clean it between renters you will have only student applicants. Most UCSC students will eventually throw a disruptive party and at the very least will have out-of-town guests moving through the place. This is a recipe for disaster for a neighborhood. Neighbors called me so often and so angry that I finally did something about it out of respect for thy neighborhood. I have heard a lot about the Archer home and would certainly harrass the tenants out of existence and sue the landlord for emotional distress. It'll get cleaned up much faster than the City channels.
Get phone numbers

United States

#47 Jun 9, 2010
As a previous UCSC student renter and now SC landlord I understand the problem from both sides... Kids will party regardless and as long as Santa Cruz does not have an area of the city that is primarily student housing, students (and other young non-student tenants) will continue to move into new neighborhoods and create noise issues.
Its a problem that has developed over time and will likely not end any time soon, as the neighborhoods right by UCSC are higher-end upper westside homes.
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As a landlord I've learned two things, 1) give my personal cell phone number to the neighbors, so they can call me with any concerns 2) tell my tenants to do the same... I've learned if there is an issue with noise, the problem can be remedied a whole hell of lot quicker if you can get ahold of someone at the house, rather than calling the police. So don't be shy and go ask one of the tenants for a cell phone number, they will be appreciative that you are avoiding police interaction and who knows you may even build a respectful working relationship, where they no longer want to be unruly because they don't want to upset their friendly neighbor
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Students feel like they have no where to go and Santa Cruz residents feel like they are being invaded... It's sad, but until they start consolidating students in certain neighborhoods (like they do in the many other functioning college towns), this problem will not go away...
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“This is only a test of the ...”

Since: Aug 08

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#48 Jun 9, 2010
Me thinks that Constantin now regrets making his statements.:)

My vote for best idea is to get his B&B phone # and make calls there anytime there is a problem.
OKAYSC

Livermore, CA

#53 Jun 9, 2010
I live in a neighborhood with 2 student houses.
One of these houses is owned by an x student who screens his tennants pretty well. This has made for good relationships for everyone involved.
The owner of this house does care how his tennants treat the neighborhood. His house is well cared for and his tennants aren't a pain to our block.
We need more landlords like this~
fish

Oakland, CA

#54 Jun 9, 2010
Didjaknow wrote:
Did you also know your own home can be placed on the 'party house' listing if you have some friends over to watch the Stanley Cup Playoffs and you all cheer at a winning goal? No alcohol involved, just 5 friends watching a game? Yup, cranky pants neighbor only has to call the Police because of the 'excessive noise' and sign a complaint. Police do not have to see or hear anything, only the neighbor has to sign the complaint and there you are, on 'THE LIST'. Happened to us during the Winter Olympics and then again last Friday. So, remember, every one is really at risk if you enjoy sports or have a birthday party or graduation party and a cranky neighbor!
Then shut the hell up! That might work.
Skiros 14

United States

#55 Jun 9, 2010
fish wrote:
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Then shut the hell up! That might work.
Look, if its a Friday or Saturday Night and you want to throw a part I think you should as long as:
1) you tell your neighbors
2) you keep it to invited guest- not the guest of your invited guests.
3) Move it in doors after 10:00pm and keep the noise down.

Since: May 10

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#56 Jun 11, 2010
Wescruz wrote:
...THEY SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO FILE LAWSUITS WITH BOTH TENANTS AND LANDLOARDS WHO ALLOW THIS STUFF!!
I feel very sympathetic to those whos privacy and peace get violated and tramped on by thoughtless jerks!!
Like i was saying; I had one of these Bass-turds living next door to me so i did my research; you CAN TAKE THEM TO COURT!!! Small Claims court; but none the less court! In my case (RENTER) I could have sewed for (the max small courts would allow) for reemburment of rent. The law that they were violating was something along the lines of "Every homeowner/renter has the right to enjoy their home and this includes their peace." Basically if you can prove how much they've been disturbing your life and making it un-fr!ck!n-bearable to stay living there then you've got case!!=D

Since: May 09

Santa Cruz

#57 Jun 12, 2010
831BLocs wrote:
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Like i was saying; I had one of these Bass-turds living next door to me so i did my research; you CAN TAKE THEM TO COURT!!! Small Claims court; but none the less court! In my case (RENTER) I could have sewed for (the max small courts would allow) for reemburment of rent. The law that they were violating was something along the lines of "Every homeowner/renter has the right to enjoy their home and this includes their peace." Basically if you can prove how much they've been disturbing your life and making it un-fr!ck!n-bearable to stay living there then you've got case!!=D
Beautiful response. You said you could take them to court but it doesn't sound like you did. I am suspecting that you decided it would be easier to move because after all, even if you did win (which if you presented any sort of a case, you probably would have) then would you have ever seen a dime from the judgment? What I am saying is that small claims does work but people have to be patient and follow through. It can take months to get a time slot and you might have to wait to get any money out of it. Once I took someone to small claims for a small outstanding debt and won but I had to garnish the loser's wages to get the money he owed me.

An additional thought is that if a group of affected neighbors got together maybe they could all file simultaneously against the bad neighbor, hence seeking numerous judgments. I doubt too many more people would continue the noisy, disruptive behavior after having gone through getting their butts kicked in court, even for a few hundred dollars of judgement.
As I See It

Watsonville, CA

#58 Jul 27, 2010
Property owner Constantin Gehriger, who rents a home on Archer Street to several UC Santa Cruz students, said the new law discriminates against college students, their parents and landlords.

Well, GOOD!! Well Done! Finally progress!
I remember when discriminate was a positive term. it meant to tell what's good from what stinks. If you can't behave yourselves then get the h*** out!
chz

United States

#59 Mar 15, 2013
I understand that this could be frustrating but it is a college town. What did you expect?
Donny B

Falls Church, VA

#60 Mar 15, 2013
chz wrote:
I understand that this could be frustrating but it is a college town. What did you expect?
Saying "...it's a college town" is just an excuse. If students want loud, bawdy parties, they suffer the consequences. If landlords and parents can't or won't control the students, they directly or indirectly will also suffer the consequences.

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