Despite the improving nationwide economy, a new census report indicates the number of homeless people in Santa Cruz County is trending upward.
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#162 Nov 18, 2013
[QUOTE who="Becky (BJ) Johnson"]I just posted this on the SantaCruzCrime.org website:
Michael, thanks for your exhaustive data intended to prove that our homelessness problem arises from homeless people migrating here in order to live on our streets. But your data prove just the opposite: Only 13% of our homeless population came from out of state. 72% last has housing in Santa Cruz County (see: Homeless Census & Survey 2013) which is up 10 percent from the 2009 survey you quoted. This is still slightly higher than in San Mateo, Santa Clara, or Monterrey Counties, but not significantly.
The big news is that Santa Cruz County has slipped drastically in the % of our homeless population which we shelter. Our rate of 18% sheltered is one of the lowest in the country.
The OTHER big news is that the City of Santa Cruz suffered a huge increase of 28% in the number of persons enumerated as homeless. Clearly the police & public works crack downs which the City paid for and implemented have, if anything, made the problem worse.
Finally, why is it so damn important that you distinguish between OUR homeless and someone ELSES homeless? Arent they all people? Isnt it obvious that they are in need? Why havent we been able to do a better job of helping these people with housing, medical needs, food, job opportunities, and counseling? Are we cheap? Or are we prejudiced? I cant think of any other possible reason.
Thank-you for your thoughtful research.
Just because they spent the night before their arrest at 115 Coral Street doesn't make them local. "Locals" don't migrate here, they have been here for a substantial length of time. Homelessness is in decline across the US but rapidly increasing HERE. Can you say Bum Magnet? How many more bums will come flocking here if we establish a sanctuary camp? Shudder1
#163 Nov 18, 2013
There's a simple solution to BJ Whackjob's "Last had housing in SC" garbage.
How about "Last had EMPLOYMENT and PAID FOR THEIR OWN housing"??
We could then weed out who had a history of being a productive member of the community, and A Junkie who burned his family,etc, and hitched to SC with enough stolen money for a cheap Motel for a week.
#164 Nov 18, 2013
Here's the quote that you replied to:
" Michael Becker
October 17, 2013 at 9:15 am
Heres some interesting comparison numbers I compiled from both the previous reports:
46% of the homeless surveyed lived in Santa Cruz for less than a year before becoming homeless, of those 33% came here homeless
49% of the homeless surveyed lived in Santa Cruz for less than a year before becoming homeless, of those 38% came here homeless
2011 Survey Questions
13. Where were you living right before you most recently became homeless?
Response Frequency Percent
City of Santa Cruz 109 22.0%
Watsonville 88 17.8%
San Lorenzo Valley 35 7.1%
Live Oak 21 4.2%
Capitola 16 3.2%
Soquel 15 3.0%
Scotts Valley 13 2.6%
Aptos 12 2.4%
Davenport 3 0.6%
Other areas 21 4.2%
Other county in California -96 19.4%
Out of state 66 13.3%
Total 495 100.0%
13a. How long had you lived in Santa Cruz County before becoming homeless?
Response Frequency Percent
7 days or less 23 7.0%
8 30 days 4 1.2%
1 3 months 7 2.1%
4 6 months 6 1.8%
7 11 months 3 0.9%
1 2 years 32 9.7%
3 5 years 50 15.2%
6 10 years 45 13.7%
More than 10 years 159 48.3%
Total 329 100.0%
In addition to the 32.7% that lived away from Santa Cruz right before becoming homeless another 13% actually came to Santa Cruz and became homeless within less than a year.
So these statistics show that in 2011, 45.7% of the homeless surveyed lived in Santa Cruz for less than a year before becoming homeless.
2009 Survey Questions
10. Where were you living at the time you most recently became homeless
Santa Cruz County 249 62.3%
Other County in CA 87 21.8%
Out of State 64 16%
Total 400 100%
10a. If you had been living in Santa Cruz, how long had you lived in the County before becoming homeless?
7 days or less 9 3.8%
8 30 days 4 1.7%
1 3 months 3 1.3%
4 6 months 5 2.1%
7 11 months 6 2.5%
1 2 years 29 12.2%
3 4 years 24 10.1%
6 10 years 27 11.4%
More than 10 years -130 54.9%
Total 237 100%
In addition to the 37.8% that lived away from Santa Cruz right before becoming homeless another 11.4% actually came to Santa Cruz and became homeless within less than a year.
So these statistics show that in 2009 49.2% of the homeless surveyed lived in Santa Cruz for less than a year before becoming homeless"
Who has compiled and compared statistics? Who took the time to understand the numbers they were compiling? Who told the truth? Who understands how to read statistics/data and can analyze them correctly? My answer: NOT Becky Johnson or any other HUFF member.
#165 Nov 18, 2013
Let us talk about this post by Becky Johnson:
" Becky Johnson
10 hours ago
I hear regret and possibly guilt in Regina's account. She admits leaving the nasty note the 1st or 2nd day she saw the broken down camper. Since she's the captain of her neighborhood watch, and the SCPD are ALWAYS saying to report anything suspicious, we can pretty well assume she did call the police on Debbie, adding to her woes.
I think Debbie's death has been a huge wake-up call for her.
Since we don't know (and may never know) how Debbie died, we are left with these possibilities: 1) the fire was caused by faulty wiring, an accident & a tragedy
2) Debbie contributed in some way to the fire through cooking, trying to fix her own vehicle, or possibly from smoking inside the RV 3) the fire was caused by arson committed by either a) one of the people Regina said were preying on her or b) vigilantes inspired by the anti-homeless statements of TBSC, Vice-Chief Steve "because I can" Clark, Lynn "lets shut down the HSC" Robinson, Pamela "clean sweeps" Comstock & Mayor Hilary "trash can" Bryant, set fire to the RV in what has turned out to be murder
Or 4) It was a suicide. I doubt this as few people choose burning to death as a way to end their life.
Nor am I 100% sure we will get a straight answer from the authorities. No one on the City Council wants to admit that they were in some way responsible for inspiring an arson hate crime which killed a nice elderly woman."
Your possibilities are far-reaching attempts to attach this death to TBSC, the Government, and the Police department. It's so far-reaching that you are calling it a hate crime before any evidence has been presented for the cause of the fire.
I feel that this quoted post is one of the greatest examples of flawed logic and prejudice shown by our HUFF advocates who didn't even know Debbie (and Robert lives 1 mile away from the FCB).
How can advocates for the homeless not even know who Debbie was, a chronic homeless woman living on the streets with her son? Is that because most homeless want Becky, Robert, John, and HUFF as far away from their lives as possible. I don't believe that is a far-reaching assumption, and I know that while I was dealing with live without a home I stayed as far away from those types of people as I could. People can stand up for themselves, they don't need advocates of the HUFF kind.
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