TBSC compared to NEO NAZIS

TBSC compared to NEO NAZIS

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TBSC Neo-Nazi Crew

Sonoma, CA

#1 Apr 24, 2014
Members of Take Back Santa Cruz are very similar to Neo-Nazis. Read this interview with a man who has been trolling Neo-Nazis in online forums and notice how similar the Neo-Nazi tactics are to the TBSC troll tactics.

Like the TBSC trolls on topix and CFABSC, the Neo-Nazis make repeated identity claims that are false.....

THIS GUY HAS BEEN TROLLING NEO-NAZIS FOR NEARLY A DECADE
http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/this-guy-has-b...

"Last month, an extreme right-wing party called Australia First posted details online of the man they believed to be behind the pseudonym Andy Fleming. For the past decade, "Fleming" has been aggravating local neo-Nazis. They aren’t particularly pleased. He’s received countless threats and racial abuse from them, which warrants his efforts to remain anonymous."

"VICE: How did you respond when you first saw the leak?
Andy Fleming: It’s not the first time these groups have misidentified me. There was one profile on my blog's Facebook page that was repeatedly making hostile comments. I kicked them off the page, and then the leak was uploaded on the Australia First website."

"I received an email from the misidentified man, who told me he was receiving some ominous calls and messages. I invited him onto my radio show to clarify things, but many of them still aren’t buying it."

This is very similar to TBSC member "DBS" calling everyone who disagrees with him in online forums "John Colby" on topix and how the TBSC trolls in CFABSC are also doing that now.
TBSC Neo-Nazi Crew

Hayward, CA

#2 Apr 24, 2014
Some background on TBSC member DBS's racist statements......

Archive for Racist Statements by DBS & Buzz
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/santa-cruz-ca...

Donny B is associated with the TBSC trolls.....

Archive for bigot posts by Donny B
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/santa-cruz-ca...
screenshot

Santa Cruz, CA

#3 Apr 24, 2014
TBSC Neo-Nazi Crew wrote:
Members of Take Back Santa Cruz are very similar to Neo-Nazis. Read this interview with a man who has been trolling Neo-Nazis in online forums and notice how similar the Neo-Nazi tactics are to the TBSC troll tactics.
Like the TBSC trolls on topix and CFABSC, the Neo-Nazis make repeated identity claims that are false.....
THIS GUY HAS BEEN TROLLING NEO-NAZIS FOR NEARLY A DECADE
http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/this-guy-has-b...
"Last month, an extreme right-wing party called Australia First posted details online of the man they believed to be behind the pseudonym Andy Fleming. For the past decade, "Fleming" has been aggravating local neo-Nazis. They aren’t particularly pleased. He’s received countless threats and racial abuse from them, which warrants his efforts to remain anonymous."
"VICE: How did you respond when you first saw the leak?
Andy Fleming: It’s not the first time these groups have misidentified me. There was one profile on my blog's Facebook page that was repeatedly making hostile comments. I kicked them off the page, and then the leak was uploaded on the Australia First website."
"I received an email from the misidentified man, who told me he was receiving some ominous calls and messages. I invited him onto my radio show to clarify things, but many of them still aren’t buying it."
This is very similar to TBSC member "DBS" calling everyone who disagrees with him in online forums "John Colby" on topix and how the TBSC trolls in CFABSC are also doing that now.
Your arguments are intellectually dishonest. The exact same behaviors that you claim are harassment, you participate in and perpetuate.
TBSC Neo-Nazi Crew

Hayward, CA

#4 Apr 24, 2014
screenshot wrote:
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Your arguments are intellectually dishonest. The exact same behaviors that you claim are harassment, you participate in and perpetuate.
No, you are a liar.

I do not phone people at their home to harass them.

I don't use racist hate speech like DBS and Donny B.

I never went to Becky Johnson's house to vandalize her property like someone here did.

I am not trying to get anyone evicted from their home like you people are.

I never published anyone's home address like you people have.

I never threatened to punch anyone in the face like TBSC member "The Truth Hurts" did.

I never made death threats or other violent threats.

I never wish people dead, as DBS does.

Do you want more examples?

Youve got no valid critique of me.
TBSC Neo-Nazi Crew

Hayward, CA

#5 Apr 24, 2014
screenshot wrote:
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Your arguments are intellectually dishonest. The exact same behaviors that you claim are harassment, you participate in and perpetuate.
The TBSC members in here are racists and stalkers and the situation in here parallels the example I gave.
screenshot

Santa Cruz, CA

#6 Apr 24, 2014
TBSC Neo-Nazi Crew wrote:
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No, you are a liar.
I do not phone people at their home to harass them.
I don't use racist hate speech like DBS and Donny B.
I never went to Becky Johnson's house to vandalize her property like someone here did.
I am not trying to get anyone evicted from their home like you people are.
I never published anyone's home address like you people have.
I never threatened to punch anyone in the face like TBSC member "The Truth Hurts" did.
I never made death threats or other violent threats.
I never wish people dead, as DBS does.
Do you want more examples?
Youve got no valid critique of me.
Wait a second, are you claiming that I am lying when I called you intellectually dishonest and a willing participant and one that perpetuates the behavior? You use assumption, fallacy, rhetoric, and every other intellectually dishonest method to base your arguments on. That is the very definition of being intellectually dishonest.

I have every right to critique you, you post in a public forum claiming illegal behavior when you do the same thing. Perhaps you rationalize your behavior because you don't stoop to the same level as others, but you are stalking and harassing them just the same.
Nathan

Santa Cruz, CA

#7 Apr 24, 2014
TBSC Neo-Nazi Crew wrote:
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Youve got no valid critique of me.
Calling you retarded and delusional is not only valid -- it is accurate.

Comparing your trolling of DBS and TBSC with the reporting of Andrew Fleming about Neo-NAZIs is hilarious.
screenshot

Santa Cruz, CA

#8 Apr 24, 2014
Everything you just ranted about: phone people, vandalism, trying to get someone evicted, publishing a personal address, threatening to punch someone, death threats, or any other example - are then generalized onto someone like myself that is challenging your position. The anger, the hostility, the vindictiveness shows the personal investment you have in this troll fest. Thanks for the response, I won't respond to you again for fear of being your victim in real life.
Super Troll Jim Spring

Hayward, CA

#9 Apr 24, 2014
Nathan wrote:
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Calling you retarded and delusional is not only valid -- it is accurate.
Comparing your trolling of DBS and TBSC with the reporting of Andrew Fleming about Neo-NAZIs is hilarious.
The "R" word is hate speech.

Bye.
Super Troll Jim Spring

Hayward, CA

#10 Apr 24, 2014
screenshot wrote:
Everything you just ranted about: phone people, vandalism, trying to get someone evicted, publishing a personal address, threatening to punch someone, death threats, or any other example - are then generalized onto someone like myself that is challenging your position. The anger, the hostility, the vindictiveness shows the personal investment you have in this troll fest. Thanks for the response, I won't respond to you again for fear of being your victim in real life.
You just repeat the same generalization about me over and over again without substantiation.

Your trolling is weak.

Bye.
Super Troll Jim Spring

Hayward, CA

#11 Apr 24, 2014
Relevant.....

Archive for Jim Spring posts
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/santa-cruz-ca...
TBSC Neo-Nazi Crew

Hayward, CA

#14 Apr 24, 2014
I will start giving specific examples. Here is what Becky Johnson said happened to her on topix......

XANTHIPPE WRITES: "Your hypocrisy is showing.You posted your own address on another website."

BECKY: I posted a copy of my CITATION which happens to have my home address on it. SUM DIM copied my home address, and in direct violation of the TOS for this forum repeatedly posted my home address. Then invited people to show up at my house. I call that gang-stalking behavior.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/west-whittier...
TBSC Neo-Nazi Crew

Hayward, CA

#15 Apr 24, 2014
Topix users have accused DBS of threatening them at home.....

Lying stalker DBS threatens me by phone
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/santa-cruz-ca...
TBSC Neo-Nazi Crew

Hayward, CA

#16 Apr 24, 2014
DBS started this thread when he also admitted for the first time that he is a Take Back Santa Cruz member....

FAT Pat deserves a driveby fruiting
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/santa-cruz-ca...

The first post (also by DBS) says....

"Shouldn't be too tough to figure out which rolling trashpile is hers..."

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/santa-cruz-ca...

A "driveby fruiting" refers to when a person vandalized Becky Johnson's property at her home (it is believed that DBS did it).
TBSC Neo-Nazi Crew

Hayward, CA

#17 Apr 24, 2014
The trolls threatened someone by using this topix user's address to title a post....

B # 205 at 90 Grandview Street
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/santa-cruz-ca...

And the first post on the thread said....

"Why you should keep your curtains closed."
Nathan

Santa Cruz, CA

#18 Apr 24, 2014
TBSC Neo-Nazi Crew wrote:
I will start giving specific examples. Here is what Becky Johnson said happened to her on topix......
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Add deflection to the list of your intellectually dishonest behaviors.
TBSC Neo-Nazi Crew

Hayward, CA

#19 Apr 24, 2014
Here DBS referred to a Native American Tribe as the "Slap-A-Ho tribe"......

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/santa-cruz-ca...
TBSC Neo-Nazi Crew

Hayward, CA

#20 Apr 24, 2014
Here is where "The Truth Hurts" (who said he is a TBSC member) threatened to punch a topix user in the face in the face.....

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/santa-cruz-ca...
TBSC Neo-Nazi Crew

Hayward, CA

#21 Apr 24, 2014
Nathan wrote:
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Add deflection to the list of your intellectually dishonest behaviors.
Any time you want to provide actual examples you are free to do so......
Conan

Santa Cruz, CA

#22 Apr 24, 2014
It's funny that the only people who defend Becky and Robert are Pat and her Brother-Lover John The Loon Colby. They are like the paupers outside the castle door hoping for a mere morsel from their perceived Lords Robert and Whackjob.

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