Recognize gangs in Santa Cruz County

Recognize gangs in Santa Cruz County

There are 20 comments on the Santa Cruz Sentinel story from Oct 22, 2009, titled Recognize gangs in Santa Cruz County. In it, Santa Cruz Sentinel reports that:

There are several hundred active gang members in the county who are a part of about a dozen gangs.

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Soooooooooo

United States

#1 Oct 22, 2009
How do we recognize the SC PD?
the-real-homer

San Jose, CA

#2 Oct 22, 2009
Soooooooooo wrote:
How do we recognize the SC PD?
Easy. They're the ones hanging out at the donut shop...
David

Santa Cruz, CA

#3 Oct 22, 2009
Good first step, Sentinel. Now what.
joe

Santa Cruz, CA

#6 Oct 22, 2009
White's the only safe color to walk around in
Gerry

Santa Cruz, CA

#8 Oct 22, 2009
Hmmm wrote:
<quoted text> Now the good guys take back the streets. Let the gangs be in fear of being seen in public.
Not until the end of the drug war's black market profits. They are killing for profit.
Lisa - Santa Cruz

Ben Lomond, CA

#10 Oct 22, 2009
I am outraged by the Sentinel's use of this issue to heighten fear and foment racial tension in Santa Cruz evidenced by the very unbalanced description of "Santa Cruz Gangs". There are also gangs of white /anglo youth - as one parent mentioned at the community meeting last night - that terrorize community members. I challenge the Sentinel to do a thoughtful piece that moves to build bridges between communities, rather than "hop on the bandwagon" to fracture it further.
long time resident

United States

#13 Oct 22, 2009
What I do not understand is why isn't there a way to track gang members like there is for molesters? They are just as dangerous to our community. We should be able to see where known gang members reside just like we can a molester. I would like to know if there is a gang member or members living down the street from me. I believe it would help keep people safer and more aware of what is happening around them.
Dream On

United States

#15 Oct 22, 2009
Lisa - Santa Cruz wrote:
I am outraged by the Sentinel's use of this issue to heighten fear and foment racial tension in Santa Cruz evidenced by the very unbalanced description of "Santa Cruz Gangs". There are also gangs of white /anglo youth - as one parent mentioned at the community meeting last night - that terrorize community members. I challenge the Sentinel to do a thoughtful piece that moves to build bridges between communities, rather than "hop on the bandwagon" to fracture it further.
Lisa, that challenge can never be met because the "reporters" have to do their homework and get to bed before 10 p.m. Balance would require a level of sophistication and responsibility which they do not have. The Senile is the place for entertainment purposes only.
C Vanatter

Santa Cruz, CA

#18 Oct 22, 2009
bounty man wrote:
$5,000 bounty on all known gang members. Drop the body off at the dump and pick up your cash. Problem will disappear in a month

Some South American countries have grown really tired of gang members that have been deported from the United States. Anyone carrying "American" gang tattoos are subject to immediate arrest, torture, and even death by the military and/or police.
Booyaa

Santa Cruz, CA

#19 Oct 22, 2009
C Vanatter wrote:
<quoted text>
Some South American countries have grown really tired of gang members that have been deported from the United States. Anyone carrying "American" gang tattoos are subject to immediate arrest, torture, and even death by the military and/or police.
actually it's El Salvador and Honduras which are in Central America. Deported MS-13 and Mara 18 members who are rivals are targeted by the police and right wing death squads because of all the mayhem they are causing down there. No great loss to society
Reality Bites

Madera, CA

#21 Oct 22, 2009
People of all races join gangs. If you are white and think you are excluded from this you should understand that apart from Whote gangs your kids may also be joining gangs within other groups. The probl comes down to parents being in denial.
When I have worker with probation or parents of suspected gang members they excuse, excuse and even after their kids is caught or hurt deny, deny, deny.
Parents be vigilant. Spend time with your kids, know who they are hanging out with and their families and when adults who work with them tell you your kids have issues such as gang influences do something about it don't deny. What are your children up to? Why does this adult think your child may be affiliated?
I grew up on Santa Cruz, some of the
westsiders where White. There were Mexicans and Blacks involved as well.

There is a coolness associated with Rap music that endorses violence and mysogynistic ideas.
We though are the ones ultimately responsible for bringing up good citizens.
What do we allow? What do we support?
People who claim to be friends of Tylers are posting gang affiliations on these blogs, this makes me question who he was hanging out with.
The guys who killed him are trash. Adults who killed a child. We though need to be vigilant, why did his friends initially lie, why on the blogs are other friends claiming gang affiliations?
no joke

Santa Cruz, CA

#22 Oct 22, 2009
Besides all of the chatter on these boards I can tell you that this actually very real. There are some pretty pissed off locals who are really serious about some vigilante justice. I don't think people, including the gang members who are actively reading these boards, really realize just how well armed the general population is these days. People got paranoid when Obama got elected and started buying guns and ammo. This could get really nasty.
Smoking dope

Daly City, CA

#23 Oct 22, 2009
I hope all those ganja, weed, dope smokers recognize that their smoking supports the Mexican drug cartels and local gangs, whether they realize it or not. These smokers have blood on their hands! End the stupidity!
no joke part 2

Santa Cruz, CA

#24 Oct 22, 2009
Looks like the feds are cracking down. They busted over 300 guys in Mexican cartels today.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/23/us/23bust.h...

As much as they talk tough the gangs actually do fear us. We are the locals and there are way more of us than them. Why do you think they coughed up the guys that did this so quickly?
no joke part 2

Santa Cruz, CA

#25 Oct 22, 2009
Smoking dope wrote:
I hope all those ganja, weed, dope smokers recognize that their smoking supports the Mexican drug cartels and local gangs, whether they realize it or not. These smokers have blood on their hands! End the stupidity!
All they have to do is grow it themselves and these guys would be out of business. There are 3 ballot initiatives that will be aimed at legalizing it in this state. At that point they will take a big hit to their business. All they will have left is the hard stuff and the kids are wising up and trending away from that. It will be really cool when we hit the Arabs and the Mexicans where it hurts and people are driving electric cars and living drug free.

Since: Jul 08

Windsor, CA

#32 Oct 22, 2009
Lisa - Santa Cruz wrote:
I am outraged by the Sentinel's use of this issue to heighten fear and foment racial tension in Santa Cruz evidenced by the very unbalanced description of "Santa Cruz Gangs". There are also gangs of white /anglo youth - as one parent mentioned at the community meeting last night - that terrorize community members. I challenge the Sentinel to do a thoughtful piece that moves to build bridges between communities, rather than "hop on the bandwagon" to fracture it further.
I'm sorry, Lisa, but you are so very, very wrong. Virtually ALL Santa Cruz County violent gang activity is the responsibility of Hispanics. Certainly, in Santa Cruz County not all Hispanics are gang members, but (virtually) all gang members are Hispanic.

Usually, these ignorant Hispanic gang members direct their violent tendencies towards other ignorant Hispanic gang members. Most people wouldn't have a problem with that, except that "normal" members of society (including the great majority of Hispanics) must pick up the tab for the injuries to, and/or incarceration of, these un-evolved ignorant Hispanic gang members. And, as you might imagine, we resent subsidizing their failures.

These gang members are less evolved human beings. They have a diminished capacity to learn and to succeed in society. They find their creativity in a spray-paint can, and their courage in a knife. Their ambition reaches no further than the end of their neighborhood "territory".

In fact, we might consider them a subspecies. They group together because they can't compete alone, in any respect. Society hasn't failed them, they have failed society.
truthbuster

Alameda, CA

#33 Oct 24, 2009
Lisa - Santa Cruz wrote:
I am outraged by the Sentinel's use of this issue to heighten fear and foment racial tension in Santa Cruz evidenced by the very unbalanced description of "Santa Cruz Gangs". There are also gangs of white /anglo youth - as one parent mentioned at the community meeting last night - that terrorize community members. I challenge the Sentinel to do a thoughtful piece that moves to build bridges between communities, rather than "hop on the bandwagon" to fracture it further.
I am outraged by your ignorance and your arrogance. This is not about "building bridges" or race. It's about stopping violent murderers from destroying our community.

The Sentinel hasn't turn this into a racial issue. They have done an excellent job reporting on this senseless murder of a, yes, a white youth by, yes, a Latino (Mexican) gang member.

Do you know the names of all the gangs in Santa Cruz County? Marasalvatrucha, Watsonville Norte, City Hall, Poorside Locos, Mexican Locos, East Side Santa Cruz, Brown Pride, any of them? I'll bet my paycheck you don't any of their names.

You claim there are gangs of white/anglo youth without any proof. There are no white/anglo gangs in Watsonville. There are no white/anglo gangs in Aptos or La Selva Beach or Capitola or Soquel or Santa Cruz. There are no white/anglo gangs in the Beach Flats. There are no white/Anglo gangs in Davenport. There are no white/Anglo gangs in the San Lorenzo Valley. I dare you to prove it. There are a few white individuals who have participated in Latino criminal street gangs and there are a few blacks who have participated in Latino criminal street gangs. There are some white youth in the San Lorenzo Valley who may be prejudiced but they don't have any criminal street gang in operation.

The Santa Cruz police don't have any documented white/anglo criminal street gangs. Neither do the Watsonville Police. They would know. How would you know?

The reality is that almost all the criminal street gangs in Santa Cruz County are Latino, primarily Mexican. That's just the reality. Until you accept reality and stop watering it down to satisfy some perverse sense of equality that you claim to have, you will be part of the problem.

There is a huge cultural problem involved in Santa Cruz's criminal street gangs. You are clueless about it - or maybe you're just prejudiced.

And you do a disservice to the Latino community. The problems of gangs in Santa Cruz is a Latino problem and it is a cultural problem as well. Most of the people murdered by gang members are themselves Latino, not white or black, although Latino gang members have been killing more whites lately. The Latino gangs are as prejudiced against black people as any white racist but you would never talk about that either. It doesn't fit your self-created vision of the world.

For your information, there are many Latino gang members who are fomenting racial tensions. I know. I interact with them - daily. But you wouldn't dare mention that, would you? for example, Jonathan Cardenas, the murderer of a young white man in a motel neart the Boardwalk is a very racist individual.

You want a dialogue where you don't have to address the problem of Latino racism in Latino gangs.
Chuck

United States

#34 Dec 24, 2010
Seems like youve been living under a rock lately east side santa cruz and westside santacruz are white gangs get ur facts right before u go cry on the net n we got bloods n crips ur smoking rocks.....face the facts.....
OKAYSC

San Jose, CA

#35 Dec 24, 2010
long time resident wrote:
What I do not understand is why isn't there a way to track gang members like there is for molesters? They are just as dangerous to our community. We should be able to see where known gang members reside just like we can a molester. I would like to know if there is a gang member or members living down the street from me. I believe it would help keep people safer and more aware of what is happening around them.
When there are gang members in a neighborhood we are well aware of it. I agree that they should be tracked. It would be really bad to buy a house and get stuck, with these neighbors. I've seen it happen and it really sucks to invest everything and be trapped with no way out.Just like the child preditor laws we have to inform us who's living too close to you. We need a human preditor law to protect all human beings from these poor excuses for people.
been there

Monterey, CA

#36 Dec 24, 2010
"we got bloods n crips"

I am not too sure. When the Avenue got busted Black activity diminished. And we have that Homeless Gang- right in our face with their motor-home fleet. Latinos are scared of them, so without Blacks; I am scared. Very scared!

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