Motorcycle accident shuts down Highway 9

Motorcycle accident shuts down Highway 9

There are 27 comments on the Santa Cruz Sentinel story from Aug 1, 2008, titled Motorcycle accident shuts down Highway 9. In it, Santa Cruz Sentinel reports that:

Highway 9 south of Glengarry Road closed at 4 p.m. today after a motorcycle lost control and went over the guardrail, according to the California Highway Patrol.

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patontheback2

Sunnyvale, CA

#1 Aug 1, 2008
zooom zooom
Yahoooooo

Alameda, CA

#2 Aug 1, 2008
Darwin at work hopefully! Ooooooh, I bet an SUV cut him off... couldn't be the idiot biker's fault!!
flight of the conchords

University Park, IL

#3 Aug 2, 2008
Yahoooooo wrote:
Darwin at work hopefully! Ooooooh, I bet an SUV cut him off... couldn't be the idiot biker's fault!!
be nice. post something of substance, such as 'my condolences to his family and friends'.
Nebraska Grandpa

Lincoln, NE

#4 Aug 2, 2008
Yahoooooo wrote:
Darwin at work hopefully! Ooooooh, I bet an SUV cut him off... couldn't be the idiot biker's fault!!
No yahoooooooooooo an SUV didn't cut him off. This was an in inexperianced 18 year old. Someone waved him around and his inexperiance allowed him to make this poor decision. At least he had enough about him to wear a helmet. He flew over 200ft but thankfully will be ok. I know because he is my grandson. I truly hope you don't have to eat your words some day "Darwin at work hoefully!"
But unfortunately you probably will.
Nebraska Grandpa

“Is that u, John Wayne? ”

Since: Jul 08

Santa Cruz, CA

#5 Aug 2, 2008
Nebraska Grandpa wrote:
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No yahoooooooooooo an SUV didn't cut him off. This was an in inexperianced 18 year old. Someone waved him around and his inexperiance allowed him to make this poor decision.
How about this. Instead of coddling a 18 year old with little to no experience on motorcycles and obvious poor impulse control, you spend some of your cash on your grandson and buy him some -good- leathers, boots, gloves, and a good helmet. And get him out to some track days where he can learn how to ride well in a safe controlled enviornment under the mentorship of experienced insturctors.

I reccomend http://www.helimot.com for leathers and motorcycle gear

And http://www.classrides.com/ ~ http://www.superbikeschool.com/

for closed circuit motorcycle instruction schools.

The rule is, the faster you learn to go on the track, and the more respect you learn to have for speed on the track and how fast things can happen, the -slower- and more -conservative- you ride on the street.

I speak from decades of being of very fast very experienced motorcyclist who as a teenager on the street knew that it was time to take it to the track before I or someone else got hurt. And I didn't have to fly over a guardrail to figure that out.
i hold signs

University Park, IL

#6 Aug 2, 2008
Nebraska Grandpa wrote:
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No yahoooooooooooo an SUV didn't cut him off. This was an in inexperianced 18 year old. Someone waved him around and his inexperiance allowed him to make this poor decision. At least he had enough about him to wear a helmet. He flew over 200ft but thankfully will be ok. I know because he is my grandson. I truly hope you don't have to eat your words some day "Darwin at work hoefully!"
But unfortunately you probably will.
Nebraska Grandpa
nebraska grandpa ~ i'm happy to hear he's going to be okay. don't read the blogs from the idiots that think they have all the answers. god bless your family. i hope you're doing okay in nebraska.
Carl Bendix

Stockton, CA

#9 Aug 3, 2008
Problem is... alot of these morons think they're SBK champs and ride WAY over their heads. I have ABSOLUTELY no compassion for these people. Like I said above, Darwin at work. How many wrecks so far this summer? TOO MANY. You're wasting MY time and fuel sitting in traffic while they scrape you off the road.
Like I said: The negative response from motorists is a conditioned response. It has been learned over the many years of seeing just this sort of thing.
valley for life

Oakland, CA

#11 Aug 3, 2008
you're all ding dongs. leave the kid alone. and duh, kids on bikes + hway 9 is always a bad mix. glad he's ok.
Rider

Santa Cruz, CA

#12 Aug 3, 2008
Everyone does something stupid - some people beat the average. Lots of people means lots of stupidity. My guess is that "Yahoooooo" beat the average, and is now a self righteous born again aye-hole. Get over it. Hope the Boy is OK. Take the advice of the other riders and get that kid some instruction and gear. It *CANT* hurt, and it just might sink in. My 2 cents would be to put him on a dirt bike and learn how bikes feel when things don't go the way you want... BTW, my experience is that the cars are much more of a problem in that area than bikes - the go-fast bikes ride higher up the mountain.
Rider

Santa Cruz, CA

#13 Aug 3, 2008
Its' also quite possible that an impatient i.d.i.o.t I'm sure just like yahooooo didn't have the common decency to give the guy on a bike a break and an extra foot. Lots of drivers won't budge or even try to intimidate bikes by getting closer that they need to.

“Let her cry, for she's a Lady”

Since: Apr 08

Let her dream, she's a Child

#14 Aug 3, 2008
Well I am really happy to hear (or rather, read) the young man is okay.

Sad to see so many have no concern for a human life, unless it is their own. I could even be wrong in regards to that, perhaps their own life is not that important.

My son wants a Harley, and the deal is, he has to drive for 5 years, before I buy him a bike. And even then, he has to practice a heck of a lot, and remember that some people do not give a damn about riders, or others in general.
Nebraska Grandpa

Lincoln, NE

#15 Aug 3, 2008
Pixie_Vampyress wrote:
Well I am really happy to hear (or rather, read) the young man is okay.
Sad to see so many have no concern for a human life, unless it is their own. I could even be wrong in regards to that, perhaps their own life is not that important.
My son wants a Harley, and the deal is, he has to drive for 5 years, before I buy him a bike. And even then, he has to practice a heck of a lot, and remember that some people do not give a damn about riders, or others in general.
I am thankful to see that there still are people out there who care about others. Thanks post 3,6,11,12,&14. A lifetime is a whole lot more than a traffic tie up. He is going to be ok. For the record, he has riding gear. He just choose to wear only his helmet (thank God). He has dirt riding experience only (in Nebraska). He did fly 150 - 200 feet but vertical not horizontal. He was signed up for an up coming safety coarse. Most importantly he accepts the responsibility as his and no one else.I have been riding for 44years but it is hard trying to convince an 18 year old of my experiences, especially when I am 1500 miles away.

“Let her cry, for she's a Lady”

Since: Apr 08

Let her dream, she's a Child

#16 Aug 3, 2008
Nebraska Grandpa wrote:
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I am thankful to see that there still are people out there who care about others. Thanks post 3,6,11,12,&14. A lifetime is a whole lot more than a traffic tie up. He is going to be ok. For the record, he has riding gear. He just choose to wear only his helmet (thank God). He has dirt riding experience only (in Nebraska). He did fly 150 - 200 feet but vertical not horizontal. He was signed up for an up coming safety coarse. Most importantly he accepts the responsibility as his and no one else.I have been riding for 44years but it is hard trying to convince an 18 year old of my experiences, especially when I am 1500 miles away.
Does not work well, sometimes, even 15 feet away!!!

Hugs to you, and him.

To all riders, Ride Safe.
Good News

Santa Cruz, CA

#17 Aug 4, 2008
Glad to hear the boy is Ok.
Good News

Santa Cruz, CA

#18 Aug 4, 2008
Opss double post.
Brother Bri

Newark, CA

#19 Aug 4, 2008
Carl Bendix wrote:
Problem is... alot of these morons think they're SBK champs and ride WAY over their heads. I have ABSOLUTELY no compassion for these people. Like I said above, Darwin at work. How many wrecks so far this summer? TOO MANY. You're wasting MY time and fuel sitting in traffic while they scrape you off the road.
Like I said: The negative response from motorists is a conditioned response. It has been learned over the many years of seeing just this sort of thing.
I find you more ignorant than most anyone. Have you not learned to shut up if you have nothing good to say? If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. It seems the cagers are not seeing the fact that the majority of these accidents are not caused by the biker. Why is that that you hate so much? Is it just bikers or do you really just hate everyone?

Moike...you are right but I know of folks who buy their 18 yr. old a bike far beyond their skill level and experience in riding. These folks believe that "He passed the MST so he's ready to ride," and are fooling themselves. My wife passed too, but after a year, she still needs more experience. I think the DMV isn't helping by giving permits/licenses to people who clearly aren't ready for HWY 9, Skyline, 17 and for that rate, any roadway with others on it.

I frankly am sick of statements such as: "Darwin at work hopefully! Ooooooh, I bet an SUV cut him off... couldn't be the idiot biker's fault!!" I suggest you to tell that to the face of a "biker" and converse with them. I didn't think so.

Carl & Yahoooooo...I...please stay off the road. Do us ALL a favor. You are NOT part of the solution!!!

Brother Bri

“Is that u, John Wayne? ”

Since: Jul 08

Santa Cruz, CA

#20 Aug 4, 2008
Brother Bri wrote:
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Moike...you are right but I know of folks who buy their 18 yr. old a bike far beyond their skill level and experience in riding.
I'm sorry, but I do have to agree.

It's evolution in action, on two fronts.

1 ~ Piss poor parental management for buying a kid, or letting a kid buy a motorcycle far beyond their 'perceived' skill level... Despite how many years of 'dirtbike' experience they may have. Last time I checked, there were no four way stops, left turn lights, or Volvos out at Hollister coming at me from all different angles. Dirt and Street are two different beasts requiring two totally different mindsets when it comes to riding if you want to stay alive. The ability to simply make a motorcycle stop and go does not qualify as 'safe riding'.

2. Again, this kid should have been thinking more along the lines of, "If I wreck on this bike, my Dad is going to kick my ass." instead of, "If I wreck on this bike, I might get hurt." Fear of some freaking proper discipline from your parents will keep your teenage ass in check, it kept in mine in check.

3. It is evolution in action, on the fault of the parents for not keeping their kid in line, and on the fault of the kid for not showing more discipline and self control. He got off lucky that Charles chose only to fire a warning shot across the bow and he'll be fine. Busted tib/fib will give him time to reflect.

The grandfather apparently is taking my recommendations as a chance to be butthurt instead of taking them to heart. Me, I'd be yelling at Jr for all it's worth, not saying, "Don't ever get on a bike again" because you know he's gonna. But I'd be yellin that he'd better have learned something, and the next time he goes out, he's going to be covered in leathers head to toe, and with a few trackdays under his belt to teach him to respect speed and how to operate the (much smaller) machine he's on.

But hey, what do I know, I've got bikes older than this kid...
Matthew Paul

Omaha, NE

#21 Aug 4, 2008
Well im this yahoo's best friend from omaha nebraksa and ive known him since third grade even though we've moved so many times we still have kept in touch and a least talk to each other once a week and c how each other is doin. One thing i have to tell you is that my friend isnt a kid he is more of a man then half u dumbasses that write these comments he alone takes care of his mother and 2 sisters one that is just a toddler and has done so his whole life growin up without a father that wasnt there he grew up fast and is more mature and knows more about whats important in life than you people who are older and think u know everything. but when it comes down to it your stupid just like those of you who are just laughin it off and sayin its darwin's law at work if it was darwins law at work he'd be dead jump off a cliff with a motorcycle fly off it start doin flips and fall 150-200ft and survive and not even break any bones thats Gods law in work
I talked to him jus a couple days b4 this happened and told him he needs to be careful and just not gamble with life bc he sky dives and is a adrenaline junky I told him that that its dangerous and he needed to think about his family and how he is the heart of his family and they need him and love him and if somethin happen to him i couldn't c his family without him Bc they have made it through so much and now there finding happiness. It was an accident that happened and a accident can happen to ne body doesnt matter who you are and far as experience he's rode dirtbikes and motorcyles since he was 15 instead of trying not to c God and deny things try to find God in things that happen that are good and not just when things are negative Everything happens for a reason.
A lesson is learned Lifes Are changed It wasn't His time to go. Maybe he's jus Lucky
He lived to fight another day
However u want to put it he's Alive
And it wasn't his time to go
Ive talked to him and he has learned to appreciate Life more and everything he has and realize you can die any day it doesn't matter how
somethings jus happen.
Live Everyday to its FULLEST Live Everyday as if it was your LasT

Sincery Your Friend
God Bless
Matthew Paul

Omaha, NE

#22 Aug 4, 2008
Well im this kids best friend from omaha nebraksa and ive known him since third grade even though we've moved so many times we still have kept in touch and a least talk to each other once a week and c how each other is doin. One thing i have to tell you is that my friend isnt a kid he is more of a man then half u dumbasses that write these comments he alone takes care of his mother and 2 sisters one that is just a toddler and has done so his whole life growin up without a father that wasnt there he grew up fast and is more mature and knows more about whats important in life than you people who are older and think u know everything. but when it comes down to it your stupid just like those of you who are just laughin it off and sayin its darwin's law at work if it was darwins law at work he'd be dead jump off a cliff with a motorcycle fly off it start doin flips and fall 150-200ft and survive and not even break any bones thats Gods law in work
I talked to him jus a couple days b4 this happened and told him he needs to be careful and just not gamble with life bc he sky dives and is a adrenaline junky I told him that that its dangerous and he needed to think about his family and how he is the heart of his family and they need him and love him and if somethin happen to him i couldn't c his family without him Bc they have made it through so much and now there finding happiness. It was an accident that happened and a accident can happen to ne body doesnt matter who you are and far as experience he's rode dirtbikes and motorcyles since he was 15 instead of trying not to c God and deny things try to find God in things that happen that are good and not just when things are negative Everything happens for a reason.
A lesson is learned Lifes Are changed It wasn't His time to go. Maybe he's jus Lucky
He lived to fight another day
However u want to put it he's Alive
And it wasn't his time to go
Ive talked to him and he has learned to appreciate Life more and everything he has and realize you can die any day it doesn't matter how
somethings jus happen.
Live Everyday to its FULLEST Live Everyday as if it was your LasT
Sincery Your Friend
God Bless
Matthew Paul

Omaha, NE

#23 Aug 4, 2008
Well im this kids best friend from omaha nebraksa and ive known him since third grade even though we've moved so many times we still have kept in touch and a least talk to each other once a week and c how each other is doin. One thing i have to tell you is that my friend isnt a kid he is more of a man then half u dumbasses that write these comments he alone takes care of his mother and 2 sisters one that is just a toddler and has done so his whole life growin up without a father that wasnt there he grew up fast and is more mature and knows more about whats important in life than you people who are older and think u know everything. but when it comes down to it your stupid just like those of you who are just laughin it off and sayin its darwin's law at work if it was darwins law at work he'd be dead jump off a cliff with a motorcycle fly off it start doin flips and fall 150-200ft and survive and not even break any bones thats Gods law in work
I talked to him jus a couple days b4 this happened and told him he needs to be careful and just not gamble with life bc he sky dives and is a adrenaline junky I told him that that its dangerous and he needed to think about his family and how he is the heart of his family and they need him and love him and if somethin happen to him i couldn't c his family without him Bc they have made it through so much and now there finding happiness. It was an accident that happened and a accident can happen to ne body doesnt matter who you are and far as experience he's rode dirtbikes and motorcyles since he was 15 instead of trying not to c God and deny things try to find God in things that happen that are good and not just when things are negative Everything happens for a reason.
A lesson is learned Lifes Are changed It wasn't His time to go. Maybe he's jus Lucky
He lived to fight another day
However u want to put it he's Alive
And it wasn't his time to go
Ive talked to him and he has learned to appreciate Life more and everything he has and realize you can die any day it doesn't matter how
somethings jus happen.
Live Everyday to its FULLEST Live Everyday as if it was your LasT
Sincery Your Friend
God Bless

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