Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

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A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Big D

Modesto, CA

#211238 Aug 21, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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I have never supported homophobia.
I have rejected calling anal sex 'safe', and ss couples 'married'..
You are homophobe, you should acknowledge your mental handicap

You have no power whatsoever over others, your rejection is exactly that, your personal rejection which carries no weight legally at all.

That I reject your marriage carries the same weight and is as important as your rejection.

T
hey are married, whether you comprehend it or not, whether you reject it or not, they are married and recognized by the only authority in this country… State and federal law
Big D

Modesto, CA

#211239 Aug 21, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Big D will not green eggs and ham, not a plane, not on a train, not on a boat, not with a goat.....but he does like same sex marriage in a carriage.....Big D he be.
A few years ago wrote a set of potential wedding vows for my daughter in the style of Dr Seuss.

She kept them and had then framed, but she didn’t actually use them.

I promise you to hold and keep
and not to kill you in your sleep......etc
suzanne henderson

El Dorado Hills, CA

#211240 Aug 21, 2013
John 3:16-21
"For God so loved the world that he have His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world: but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on Him is not condemned; but he that believeth not, is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God, and this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God."
Big D

Modesto, CA

#211241 Aug 21, 2013
Pastafarianism is a real religion.

Most of us do not believe a religion – Christianity, Islam, Pastafarianiasm – requires literal belief in order to provide spiritual enlightenment. That is, we can be part of a community without becoming indoctrinated. There are many levels of belief.

By design, the only dogma allowed in the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is the rejection of dogma. That is, there are no strict rules and regulations, there are no rote rituals and prayers and other nonsense. Every member has a say in what this church is and what it becomes.

To outsiders it makes us hard to define, but here are some general things that can be said about our beliefs:

» We believe pirates, the original Pastafarians, were peaceful explorers and it was due to Christian misinformation that they have an image of outcast criminals today

» We are fond of beer

» Every Friday is a Religious Holiday

» We do not take ourselves too seriously

» We embrace contradictions (though in that we are hardly unique)

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#211242 Aug 21, 2013
Big D wrote:
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Yesterday’s truths includes
People other than European are inferior genetically
The earth is flat
Slavery of populations is normal and natural and moral
Women are second class citizens
All stars orbit the earth including the sun and all planets
Protestants should be burned at the stake
Christians should be fed to lions
Leaves falling into water will spontaneously transform into fish over time
Your yesterdays truths are full of crap, and specifically not true
Whenever someone looks to history for morality it makes me laugh, transport them back to that time and they would be put to death for heresy for the truths of that time
These truths haven't changed, and you have NO answer for them

SS couples are only ever a mutually sterile duplicate gendered half of marriage.

Anal sex is inherently harmful, unhealthy and demeaning.

That's not hate or homophobia, it's unchangeable truth.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#211243 Aug 21, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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These truths haven't changed, and you have NO answer for them
SS couples are only ever a mutually sterile duplicate gendered half of marriage.
Anal sex is inherently harmful, unhealthy and demeaning.
That's not hate or homophobia, it's unchangeable truth.
Yes historical truths have changed

Women are not second class citizens

slavery is not moral and natural

Christians should not be burned at the stake for which cult of Christianity they belong to

and same sex marriage is now legal and recognized on the state and federal level.

Don’t look to history for morality, you wont find much there.

You expose your hatred with every post, thou dost protest too much

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#211244 Aug 21, 2013
Big D wrote:
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Yes historical truths have changed
Women are not second class citizens
slavery is not moral and natural
Christians should not be burned at the stake for which cult of Christianity they belong to
and same sex marriage is now legal and recognized on the state and federal level.
Don’t look to history for morality, you wont find much there.
You expose your hatred with every post, thou dost protest too much
Irregardless, these truths haven't changed, and you still have NO answer for them

SS couples are only ever a mutually sterile duplicate gendered half of marriage.

Anal sex is inherently harmful, unhealthy and demeaning.

That's not hate or homophobia, it's unchangeable truth.
heartandmind

Moline, IL

#211245 Aug 21, 2013
oneboner wrote:
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Nope. Don't wanna know...in fact, I am sick of seeing these 200,000 obsessive compulsive posts on the subject.
it is truly weird and it is past time to stop it..,.....but you cannot, can you?
Trust me......I will stop posting.
Let's agree, ok? Stop this weird arsed thread.
ya right.....one of your ilk will keep r going.....you just cannot help yourselves.
then, if you are as you say you are, "sick of seeing these 200,000 obsessive compulsive posts on the subject" why do you keep returning and adding to that large number of posts?

odd. entirely odd. or are you just fascinated and transfixed with a deep desire to express your own homosexuality?

you kept this thread going by your own posting! and your fellow comrades in arms do the same. i suggest that you tell your side to do the same thing & no longer post in this thread, since, afterall, you're sick of it.

LOL.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#211246 Aug 21, 2013
heartandmind wrote:
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then, if you are as you say you are, "sick of seeing these 200,000 obsessive compulsive posts on the subject" why do you keep returning and adding to that large number of posts?
odd. entirely odd. or are you just fascinated and transfixed with a deep desire to express your own homosexuality?
you kept this thread going by your own posting! and your fellow comrades in arms do the same. i suggest that you tell your side to do the same thing & no longer post in this thread, since, afterall, you're sick of it.
LOL.
Why was he obsessively reading the posts?
Big D

Modesto, CA

#211247 Aug 21, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Irregardless, these truths haven't changed, and you still have NO answer for them
SS couples are only ever a mutually sterile duplicate gendered half of marriage.
Anal sex is inherently harmful, unhealthy and demeaning.
That's not hate or homophobia, it's unchangeable truth.
Regardless of fact? That is exactly how you are, you close your eyes to facts, plug your ears and pretend not to hear any facts so you can just believe what you want to believe, which we have already shown you many times is dead wrong.

You are inherently harmful, your hatred and obsession about what others are allowed to do is un-American, it is a psychological problem, it is called homophobia

The Historical truth that slavery was natural and normal changed

The historical truth that women were second class citizens changed

Even the pure belief/truth of the covenant with man in old testament was changed by your god.

You God disagrees with you about truth
heartandmind

Moline, IL

#211248 Aug 21, 2013
suzanne henderson wrote:
Dear heartandmind, We will not write back to anyone individually anymore, for we believe it is a waste of our time.
I am only going to address a few things right now that you brought up. We have a family member that has had mental illness for much of her life. She had been in a day by day clinic that we took her to and she got so sick that she came out as they would put it (zombie state) and that is when they shuffle when they walk and they are not themselves. This is because of the nasty drugs they push down ones throat. We did not take her anymore because her condition was so bad, so God did intervene and I heard a message over TV that was for me, so I got up laid hands on her and she started to pull out of it. We took her to a neurologist and he could not believe what she had been through because he had seen her a few times when we had taken her to the clinic. She completly pulled out of the state she was in because God was healing her fast. I had volunteered at this clinic for many years as a singing director and I stayed there on the the days we took the family member and I saw everything there was to see in mental illness. Three of them commmitted Suicide and one of them was overdrugged and fell in the street and died at the age of 23. We believe if the clinic would have allowed me or my husband to witness Christ to these people, we may have helped some of them. We sincerly believe that this can happen. We had a ministry for 10 years with no money involved and people would come and not be interested in the Bible, but liked the fellowship, but let me tell you when some of them had a crisis in their lives, 2 of them came knocking at our door in the middle of the night and one of them was on the verge of committing suicide because of adultry. We have been married for 55 years and we have been in lots of denominations and we finally got back into the Bible for Christ Holy Spirit is the only teacher (First John 2:27). We believe that God put us together for his service. We knew a psychologist who was a Christian and he helped many people. You do not need a psychiatist, you need Christ and we have seen this first hand experience. We know of alot of homosexuals that have been saved and come straight as a result of someone out there helping them in their sins and now they are married with children. Thank you for your comment to us.
your family member, then, had a neurological condition that was misdiagnosed.

my partner and i have been together now coming up on 26 yrs and are raising 3 kids together. like you, we firmly believe that god brought us together, put us on a path. you may disagree with that path, but that's your perogotive.

"come straight"....i bet if you spoke with them quietly and they trusted you completely (which is hard to accurately gauge from your stand point) they'd most likely tell you that inside, they still feel the same way. they still are attracted to the same sex. which is exactly what those people that have been through exodus tell us. you turn your back on the reality & choose to believe what you want to believe.

i've seen what you and others like you have wrought on kids and our society. the story ain't pretty, darlin', as my old aunt finley would say when i was growing up. you fail to see the results because you're not around that end of things. you fail to see what happens after you've passed on your tidbits of biblical passages with that cold smile. you and others like you have offered nothing to help these children. it is you and others like you that have fostered westboro. you may not say the word "hate" but you convey that message quite clearly. more clearly than the message of love you profess to be sending.
heartandmind

Moline, IL

#211249 Aug 21, 2013
Big D wrote:
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Why was he obsessively reading the posts?
yup. LOL.

as ol' bugsy would say on saturday morning comics "what a maroon"

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#211250 Aug 21, 2013
Big D wrote:
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Regardless of fact? That is exactly how you are, you close your eyes to facts, plug your ears and pretend not to hear any facts so you can just believe what you want to believe, which we have already shown you many times is dead wrong.
You are inherently harmful, your hatred and obsession about what others are allowed to do is un-American, it is a psychological problem, it is called homophobia
The Historical truth that slavery was natural and normal changed
The historical truth that women were second class citizens changed
Even the pure belief/truth of the covenant with man in old testament was changed by your god.
You God disagrees with you about truth
Delusional denial.

Dismissed.

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Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#211251 Aug 21, 2013
Rocky Hudsony wrote:
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Well, that's just it, VV, we DO get to have it both ways. We get to decide what was correct from the past, and we get to learn what wasn't right. See? Easy, huh? We have the luxury of not having to be trapped by your faulty logic quiz....
Sorry if that messed up your carefully crafted conundrum, hope you didn't put too much time into that one....
My point, which I think you make, is that we are not dependent on how history for determining the way we act.

Kim seems bent on using history.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#211252 Aug 21, 2013
heartandmind wrote:
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yup. LOL.
as ol' bugsy would say on saturday morning comics "what a maroon"
And all I can feel for Susan is pity.

One of those poor people that just cannot see facts, only what they are told to believe.

She doesn’t even comprehend the harm she causes with her mental blindness. I actually believe she means well, but as they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions ( not that I believe in a hell )

Fortunately their ilk is in decline
Big D

Modesto, CA

#211253 Aug 21, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Delusional denial.
Dismissed.
You are dismissed as a failure, same sex couples are indeed married by the only authorities, state and federal law. They are married, whither you like it or not, whether you recognize it or not, it is a fact, and your ignorance of the fact, does not change the fact

You are now dismissed
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#211255 Aug 21, 2013
Big D wrote:
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You are dismissed as a failure, same sex couples are indeed married by the only authorities, state and federal law. They are married, whither you like it or not, whether you recognize it or not, it is a fact, and your ignorance of the fact, does not change the fact
You are now dismissed
Too funny! I can see why you don't believe in God. You think you're in charge and don't want the competition.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#211256 Aug 21, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Irregardless, these truths haven't changed, and you still have NO answer for them
SS couples are only ever a mutually sterile duplicate gendered half of marriage.
Anal sex is inherently harmful, unhealthy and demeaning.
That's not hate or homophobia, it's unchangeable truth.
Get some new material, you parrot. Nobody buys your notions.

Gay couples can have a loving, marital relationship; just like the millions of heterosexual married couples who base their relationships on love and have no intention of having children for whatever reason.

And you yammer on about the harmful effects of anal sex. How people want to have sex is their business. If it were as harmful as you say, every straight and gay person who has ever engaged in anal sex would be ill. And they aren't.

Your beliefs about why people should marry and how they should have sex are intrusive.

I will bring you back to your "boundaries exercise", in which you stand up, hold your arms out to your side, spin in a circle, and say to yourself "This is my personal space. I get to control what happens in my space. I should not seek to control anything outside of my space."
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#211257 Aug 21, 2013
Big D wrote:
Pastafarianism is a real religion.
Except it's followers don't really believe in it. Making it a joke and not a real religion.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#211258 Aug 21, 2013
SameoldStuff wrote:
<quoted text>If the thought of anal sex upsets you. Stop thinking about it.
Sterility has nothing to do with marriage.
The truth is this, you are obsessed with two mwn having sex. Get over it.
Procreation is not a requirement for marriage. But it is one of the biggest reason marriage was invented.

You'll find it very frustrating to keep arguing otherwise. Like beating a dead jackass.

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