Santa Cruz council OKs recycling, scrap metal scrutiny

Nov 12, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Santa Cruz Sentinel

The City Council voted 6-1 Tuesday to step up scrutiny of recycling redemption and scrap metal buy-back centers amid concerns about rampant theft from residential and commercial sites.

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Buzz

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John ColbyLOON wrote:
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You must have missed the semi recent SC city council meeting where Kittle went nutso on Robert Norse. He sounded EXACTLY like DBS.
I dont think Kittle is DBS but it is funny how so many of the trolls here are older cranky men.
Kittle is like an exact cross of Buzz and DBS.
Thanks for the compliment, ColbyLoon. Unfortunately I can't reciprocate since I can't find anyone as pathetic as you! You truly are without peer.
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TBSC Loon DBS wrote:
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You must have missed the semi recent SC city council meeting where Kittle went nutso on Robert Norse. He sounded EXACTLY like DBS.
I dont think Kittle is DBS but it is funny how so many of the trolls here are older cranky men.
Kittle is like an exact cross of Buzz and DBS.
"Went nutso"?

Be specific -- what did I say that isn't true?

You are the hysterical one here, carrying on like a spoiled brat who refuses to take any responsibility, and snivels that others don't enable you (and your bums) as much as you think you deserve.

What, precisely, do your bums do for anyone else?
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TBSC Loon DBS wrote:
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You must have missed the semi recent SC city council meeting where Kittle went nutso on Robert Norse. He sounded EXACTLY like DBS.
I dont think Kittle is DBS but it is funny how so many of the trolls here are older cranky men.
Kittle is like an exact cross of Buzz and DBS.
I enjoy the fact that you can't debate properly or utilize the most basic comprehension of what is stated on these forums. Instead, you twist words and completely disregard the main point of a person's post, and then go off on your own repetitive tangent. It's funny how hard you try to police these and other forums.

What do you do when you see the name Pat Kittle? You say that you've had a theory that Pat was DBS. The only way that you've created that theory is if you've been on Topix for longer than you say you have.

To reiterate my statement, I have not seen Pat Kittle post on Topix for years. Perhaps I've missed his posts under the name Pat Kittle. Those that do recognize that name from the past know that you have had issues with what he's stated on not just this forum but the sentinel and patch. City Council meetings aside, you've been secretly stalking him just like the rest of the "TBSC Trolls."

In my opinion, these people are right about who you are. You can lie, deceive, attempt to be a different person but all in all your posts are directly reflective of who you've been, who you are, and what you'll be forever known for: A spamming Troll that uses key words like - bigot, facist, meth, dui, drunk, and most of all you are anti-government, anti-police, and support articles gleaned from your research on, of all websites, Indybay Media.

You're a fool if you think you can say the same thing over and over for years and not be called out for who you are. What's even more pathetic is your attempts to discover your critics real names so that you can stalk, harass, and do to them exactly what you "perceive" has been done to you. You have zero credibility and only perpetuate your victim status.

Just to make sure you don't say, "you aren't posting about the topic" I will address it. Thanks to the City Council for nipping the thieves employers from receiving stolen property. This should help with catalytic converter theft, bike theft, and people digging through others recyclables that are meant for a state program and not thieves. Again, they are thieves, not anything else but THIEVES.
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inquiring minds wrote:
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Further proof that you've been on these forums longer than that CTV stomping that homeless advocate received. The Pat Kittle name hasn't been used hardly at all since the Sentinel switched to Disqus and Facecrack.
I was permanently banned by the Sentinel's online editor (Tom Moore). He won't tolerate regular, well-reasoned opposition to open borders and massively unsustainable immigration.

Of course Tom is just a timid little cog in the mainstream media's hypocritical censorship of open-borders problems. The Sentinel would have us believe most citizens love open borders unless we're racist elitist xenophobic haters.
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Raleigh wrote:
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I enjoy the fact that you can't debate properly or utilize the most basic comprehension of what is stated on these forums. Instead, you twist words and completely disregard the main point of a person's post, and then go off on your own repetitive tangent. It's funny how hard you try to police these and other forums.
What do you do when you see the name Pat Kittle? You say that you've had a theory that Pat was DBS. The only way that you've created that theory is if you've been on Topix for longer than you say you have.
To reiterate my statement, I have not seen Pat Kittle post on Topix for years. Perhaps I've missed his posts under the name Pat Kittle. Those that do recognize that name from the past know that you have had issues with what he's stated on not just this forum but the sentinel and patch. City Council meetings aside, you've been secretly stalking him just like the rest of the "TBSC Trolls."
In my opinion, these people are right about who you are. You can lie, deceive, attempt to be a different person but all in all your posts are directly reflective of who you've been, who you are, and what you'll be forever known for: A spamming Troll that uses key words like - bigot, facist, meth, dui, drunk, and most of all you are anti-government, anti-police, and support articles gleaned from your research on, of all websites, Indybay Media.
You're a fool if you think you can say the same thing over and over for years and not be called out for who you are. What's even more pathetic is your attempts to discover your critics real names so that you can stalk, harass, and do to them exactly what you "perceive" has been done to you. You have zero credibility and only perpetuate your victim status.
Just to make sure you don't say, "you aren't posting about the topic" I will address it. Thanks to the City Council for nipping the thieves employers from receiving stolen property. This should help with catalytic converter theft, bike theft, and people digging through others recyclables that are meant for a state program and not thieves. Again, they are thieves, not anything else but THIEVES.
Brilliant! You just nailed jello to the wall.
Raleigh

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Partial Observer wrote:
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Brilliant! You just nailed jello to the wall.
Wow, I just read the sentinel comments where this John Landon person is saying the exact same things as what the TBSC Troll Alert, Reality Check, etc. has been saying for a long time now on Topix.

This person needs to be 5150'd. How many times can you say BJ, Troll, TBSC, and "fine with junkies dying" without sounding repetitive to the point of psychosocial. Smells like a duck, talks like a duck, walks like a duck, it's a duck people. I was hoping they'd use that picture of that fat faced flamer with a crooked nose.
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Raleigh wrote:
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Wow, I just read the sentinel comments where this John Landon person is saying the exact same things as what the TBSC Troll Alert, Reality Check, etc. has been saying for a long time now on Topix.
This is the best quote from that rant fest on the Sentinel story yesterday.

" Joe Landon Guest
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I am no expert on John Colby. But one thing seems obvious about the SCPD: they go after easy targets such as the homeless and they almost never bust meth dealers."

SCPD, homeless, meth dealers...but you're not an expert about yourself? Yet, you defend yourself every single time your name comes up.

Come on now, I pronounce you are now Daft Duck. Quack quack, waddle waddle, saying the exact same things that the quack has said for years. You lie so badly that it's absurd.
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Perhaps the real Joe Landon should receive a link to his imposters rants. The imposter should try to use sockpuppet names that are not searchable for validity.

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This blatant attempt to shut down recycling facilities should be called out for what it is:

an attack on poor and homeless people driven by myths and prejudice

Taking recyclables out of the blue bins is already theft. No one is arguing in favor of theft!

In the past, HUFF has argued that homeowners should be ALLOWED to let homeless recyclers take cans & bottles out of their blue bins. However, the law doesn't allow for this.

Richelle Naroyan's argument appears to be that since homeless people only use money for alcohol or drugs (or needles) then we should shut down the centers to frustrate them.

Small problems: State law prohibits this for good reason

No stats were presented. No police reports. No list of complaints. Just a bunch of NIMBYesque neighbors who can't stand the sight of a homeless person in their neighborhood.

How they can publicly and openly argue that homeless people who are gathering and turning in cans & bottles that would otherwise end up in landfills, or worse, in our roadside ditches & waterways should be denied pay for that work is beyond comprehension.

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[QUOTE who="Becky(BJ)Johnson "]This blatant attempt to shut down recycling facilities should be called out for what it is:
an attack on poor and homeless people driven by myths and prejudice
Taking recyclables out of the blue bins is already theft. No one is arguing in favor of theft!
In the past, HUFF has argued that homeowners should be ALLOWED to let homeless recyclers take cans & bottles out of their blue bins. However, the law doesn't allow for this.
Richelle Naroyan's argument appears to be that since homeless people only use money for alcohol or drugs (or needles) then we should shut down the centers to frustrate them.
Small problems: State law prohibits this for good reason
No stats were presented. No police reports. No list of complaints. Just a bunch of NIMBYesque neighbors who can't stand the sight of a homeless person in their neighborhood.
How they can publicly and openly argue that homeless people who are gathering and turning in cans & bottles that would otherwise end up in landfills, or worse, in our roadside ditches & waterways should be denied pay for that work is beyond comprehension.[/QUOTE]

But what if they were stealing from your retirement fund of used Chiffon pie tins?
Steve

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Scrutiny of a State run program by a City is not new, it's normal to do so when there is rampant theft (which you agree it is theft). Scrutiny does not mean a new law, nor will it shut down a facility. It will make them more accountable, which is what they do with those large corporations that those rich people use to steal money (theft). They are the same thing but in different contexts.
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Becky Johnson wrote:
This blatant attempt to shut down recycling facilities should be called out for what it is:
an attack on poor and homeless people driven by myths and prejudice
Taking recyclables out of the blue bins is already theft. No one is arguing in favor of theft!
In the past, HUFF has argued that homeowners should be ALLOWED to let homeless recyclers take cans & bottles out of their blue bins. However, the law doesn't allow for this.
Richelle Naroyan's argument appears to be that since homeless people only use money for alcohol or drugs (or needles) then we should shut down the centers to frustrate them.
Small problems: State law prohibits this for good reason
No stats were presented. No police reports. No list of complaints. Just a bunch of NIMBYesque neighbors who can't stand the sight of a homeless person in their neighborhood.
How they can publicly and openly argue that homeless people who are gathering and turning in cans & bottles that would otherwise end up in landfills, or worse, in our roadside ditches & waterways should be denied pay for that work is beyond comprehension.
Hey BJ Whackjob, you left out the part where the cost of the City's refuse and recycling is substantially funded by the CRV. Or did you think that the Tooth Fairy pays the costs of the Trucks,fuel, and driver's salary?

So very nice of you and the other 2 HUFF crackpots to decide that the parasites you pretend to care about can help themselves to a portion of the City's budget whenever they want to. While you and Robert the multi-millionaire contribute your usual nothing.

P.S. Hey Lard-ass, aren't YOU the one who won't allow any Bums near YOUR house, because of your "sensitive" roommate?
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DBS wrote:
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Hey BJ Whackjob, you left out the part where the cost of the City's refuse and recycling is substantially funded by the CRV. Or did you think that the Tooth Fairy pays the costs of the Trucks,fuel, and driver's salary?

So very nice of you and the other 2 HUFF crackpots to decide that the parasites you pretend to care about can help themselves to a portion of the City's budget whenever they want to. While you and Robert the multi-millionaire contribute your usual nothing.

P.S. Hey Lard-ass, aren't YOU the one who won't allow any Bums near YOUR house, because of your "sensitive" roommate?
As usual, BJ talking about issues she knows nothing about and giving idiotic advice to the community in a vain attempt to bolster her own perceived self-importance as a so-called "advocate for the homeless".
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Becky Johnson wrote:
How they can publicly and openly argue that homeless people who are gathering and turning in cans & bottles that would otherwise end up in landfills, or worse, in our roadside ditches & waterways should be denied pay for that work is beyond comprehension.
They are the City Council, so they openly argue about who does what and how it effects business, finances, and allocation of resources.

Why don't you propose to your homeless people that they walk along the levee, on the beaches, in the woods, the railroad tracks, and the sides of the highways to pick up their recyclables to turn in for cash? Why should the law bend toward allowing people to dig through others trash and recycle bins, not to mention businesses? Think of it as win/win, the homeless that need the cash from recyclables clean up the community. They get money, the community gets a cleaner city, those that volunteer to clean up camps, beaches, etc won't have to put as much time in, and everyone could be happy.?
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Steve wrote:
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They are the City Council, so they openly argue about who does what and how it effects business, finances, and allocation of resources.
Why don't you propose to your homeless people that they walk along the levee, on the beaches, in the woods, the railroad tracks, and the sides of the highways to pick up their recyclables to turn in for cash? Why should the law bend toward allowing people to dig through others trash and recycle bins, not to mention businesses? Think of it as win/win, the homeless that need the cash from recyclables clean up the community. They get money, the community gets a cleaner city, those that volunteer to clean up camps, beaches, etc won't have to put as much time in, and everyone could be happy.?
But that would mean that BJ would have to get up off her super-sized blubber-ass and actually DO SOMETHING!!!

Don't you know she's only here to point her flabby,do-nothing fingers at what "WE" should do??
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DBS wrote:
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Hey BJ Whackjob, you left out the part where the cost of the City's refuse and recycling is substantially funded by the CRV. Or did you think that the Tooth Fairy pays the costs of the Trucks,fuel, and driver's salary?
Silly me, I thought it was bad for by that BILL the city sends up every month. Since it's auto-paid outta yo sofa trust fund you would know anything about that...
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Prince Omaha wrote:
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Silly me, I thought it was bad for by that BILL the city sends up every month. Since it's auto-paid outta yo sofa trust fund you would know anything about that...
'Paid for' I meant to type of coarse. Even with majik software I still screw up sometimes.
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Silly me, I thought it was bad for by that BILL the city sends up every month. Since it's auto-paid outta yo sofa trust fund you would know anything about that...
Fail again LOSER!!!

I don't live in Santa Cruz, so I don't use any of the City's recycling resources.

And stop lying about the Trustfund you already know I haven't got.
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DBS wrote:
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Hey BJ Whackjob, you left out the part where the cost of the City's refuse and recycling is substantially funded by the CRV. Or did you think that the Tooth Fairy pays the costs of the Trucks,fuel, and driver's salary?
So if everyone started taking their recyclables to the redemption center the cities waste recovery division would collapse entirely? Bad economic strategy. Maybe we should close 115 coral cause we need the $$$ for the garbage service in reality.

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Silly me, I thought it was bad for by that BILL the city sends up every month. Since it's auto-paid outta yo sofa trust fund you would know anything about that...
ColbyLOON your new colon puppet stinks like ANON. Some thing in the Hayward water??

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