Judge Symons Affirms "Bum Magnet Effect

Since: May 12

Santa Cruz, CA

#21 Aug 22, 2013
The official number is roughly one in three perople came to Santa Cruz already homeless. Is that stat accurate? Maybe, maybe not. The margin of error coulg be pretty high depending on how they do the survey.

If you listen to Robert's show, the number seems much, much higher - over 50%. Again, is that accurate? Maybe, maybe not. Maybe the number of out of townwers is that high. Maybe Robert has a knack for meeting and talking to people that he hasn't seen before. Or, as my wife pointed out, maybe the ones that have been in town for a while know to just avoid him.
DBS

San Francisco, CA

#22 Aug 22, 2013
Reality Check wrote:
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I'm guessing there is some STD clinic that originally brought you here.
Or maybe it was a convention for spoiled trust fund babies?
You arent retired if you have a trust fund, DBS.
Being retired requires that you have WORKED in your lifetime.
sure thing STBO Whackjob!!

I've got tax returns from my EMPLOYERS going back to 1976.

I even gave you a list of Jobs I have WORKED at!!

28 Days...
The Truth Hurts

Santa Cruz, CA

#23 Aug 22, 2013
Ralph

Santa Cruz, CA

#24 Aug 22, 2013
Reality Check wrote:
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There isn't any magnet effect.
The stats show that the majority of homeless people in SC are from here
51% can be considered a majority, and in the instance of homeless people in our county it was what, 65% that are not from here? As for people being afraid of homeless I would think it's more being afraid of criminals, housed or not.

What do you have to say about CA vs Nevada where Las Vegas sent their mentally ill on buses straight to CA to drop them off? Is that our responsibility here in CA to take care of everyone, from every country and/or state that wants to just dump problems on us?

I wonder if the majority of homeless in CA are mentally ill? Wouldn't that be a federal issue and not a state? Shouldn't the feds be giving people bus trips to states that have low unemployment and lower cost of living or putting them into facilities that can deal with mentally ill people? That's the humane thing to do in my opinion, not a free for all campground in Santa Cruz.

Did you know that CA has one of the lowest food stamp collection rates? One of the largest liberal democratic states doesn't even utilize the full potential of a federal program. The republican states are using our tax money, our federal aid, and then ship the rest of the needy to us...isn't that special?!
Ralph

Santa Cruz, CA

#25 Aug 22, 2013
65% THAT ARE FROM HERE - correction to my last post.
Ralph

Santa Cruz, CA

#26 Aug 22, 2013
Reality Check wrote:
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Yes, she declared this without any facts or statistics, giving just her biased view as a judge and former prosecutor.
She's another public liar, doing similar to what the SCPD does with the fabrication of pseudo stats there.
Actually, if you look really carefully at the words in the story you can see it is her personal opinion. You have your personal opinion of her, and we know it's biased, and she has her personal opinion, and we know she has much more power than you do. Jealous?

“Pearls before swine”

Since: Mar 08

Santa Cruz, CA.

#27 Aug 24, 2013
ED NATOL WRITES: The official number is roughly one in three perople came to Santa Cruz already homeless. Is that stat accurate? Maybe, maybe not. The margin of error coulg be pretty high depending on how they do the survey.

BECKY:The survey is done the way most surveys are done: people fill out a questionnaire & answer anonymously. The more people who fill out the survey, the more likely the results are to be accurate, however, how the questions are worded can sometimes skew the results.

Ariadne Symons is wrong: Santa Cruz is not a "magnet" for homeless people. Jobs & a network of support are. Santa Cruz has a very poor job to cost of living ratio. That is, low wages & a high cost of living. THis is an anti-magnet for poor & homeless people.

Finally, for Symons to urge the enforcement of "loitering laws" shows her legal incompetency. There is no legal authority to remove people from public spaces who are not doing anything.

Clear-thinking people should reject Symons fear-mongering, her xenophobia, and her call for unconstitutional actions in the face of this "crisis.
DBS

San Francisco, CA

#28 Aug 24, 2013
Becky Johnson wrote:
ED NATOL WRITES: The official number is roughly one in three perople came to Santa Cruz already homeless. Is that stat accurate? Maybe, maybe not. The margin of error coulg be pretty high depending on how they do the survey.
BECKY:The survey is done the way most surveys are done: people fill out a questionnaire & answer anonymously. The more people who fill out the survey, the more likely the results are to be accurate, however, how the questions are worded can sometimes skew the results.
Ariadne Symons is wrong: Santa Cruz is not a "magnet" for homeless people. Jobs & a network of support are. Santa Cruz has a very poor job to cost of living ratio. That is, low wages & a high cost of living. THis is an anti-magnet for poor & homeless people.
Finally, for Symons to urge the enforcement of "loitering laws" shows her legal incompetency. There is no legal authority to remove people from public spaces who are not doing anything.
Clear-thinking people should reject Symons fear-mongering, her xenophobia, and her call for unconstitutional actions in the face of this "crisis.
Fail again you Flabby fool!!

The honorable Ariadne Symons is exponentially more qualified in these matters than a failed-career whackjob like YOU!!

So back to Detroit, nobody gives a crap what you think.

P.S. Heard any FAT jokes lately?

The Original Buzz

“The buck stops here!”

Since: Sep 12

Scotts Valley

#29 Aug 24, 2013
Becky Johnson wrote:
ED NATOL WRITES: The official number is roughly one in three perople came to Santa Cruz already homeless. Is that stat accurate? Maybe, maybe not. The margin of error coulg be pretty high depending on how they do the survey.
BECKY:The survey is done the way most surveys are done: people fill out a questionnaire & answer anonymously. The more people who fill out the survey, the more likely the results are to be accurate, however, how the questions are worded can sometimes skew the results.
Ariadne Symons is wrong: Santa Cruz is not a "magnet" for homeless people. Jobs & a network of support are. Santa Cruz has a very poor job to cost of living ratio. That is, low wages & a high cost of living. THis is an anti-magnet for poor & homeless people.
Finally, for Symons to urge the enforcement of "loitering laws" shows her legal incompetency. There is no legal authority to remove people from public spaces who are not doing anything.
Clear-thinking people should reject Symons fear-mongering, her xenophobia, and her call for unconstitutional actions in the face of this "crisis.
BJ, you are flat out wrong about the bum magnet effect. I've worked with dozens of homeless youth who candidly said they came here because of Santa Cruz's wealth of benefits--food, lenient legal system/few hassles, freebies, weather. We have a nation wide reputation for being an easy mark. If you're unaware of that, you probably don't believe in global warming.

By the way, your sycophantic toady, John Colby is being evicted for being a serial stalker and harasser at Mission Garden in 26 days. Can you take him in? He's getting pretty desperate.
Donny B

Falls Church, VA

#30 Aug 24, 2013
Becky Johnson wrote:
ED NATOL WRITES: The official number is roughly one in three perople came to Santa Cruz already homeless. Is that stat accurate? Maybe, maybe not. The margin of error coulg be pretty high depending on how they do the survey.

BECKY:The survey is done the way most surveys are done: people fill out a questionnaire & answer anonymously. The more people who fill out the survey, the more likely the results are to be accurate, however, how the questions are worded can sometimes skew the results.

Ariadne Symons is wrong: Santa Cruz is not a "magnet" for homeless people. Jobs & a network of support are. Santa Cruz has a very poor job to cost of living ratio. That is, low wages & a high cost of living. THis is an anti-magnet for poor & homeless people.
Finally, for Symons to urge the enforcement of "loitering laws" shows her legal incompetency. There is no legal authority to remove people from public spaces who are not doing anything.
Clear-thinking people should reject Symons fear-mongering, her xenophobia, and her call for unconstitutional actions in the face of this "crisis.
BJ, it is YOU who are wrong! As you've done so many times in the past, you make statements that are absolute or unequivocal. To say that "Santa Cruz is not a "magnet" for homeless people." defies reality. In effect, you're saying that none of the homeless who have come to SC have ever come here because of the weather or any of the other benefits that SC has to offer. The issue of jobs doesn't apply to a good number of the homeless either. These individuals could care less about jobs and are more concerned about mooching off the community for what ever they can beg, steal, or take (as in the case of federal, state, and local community benefits).

Santa Cruz has historically been a magnet for homeless individuals just as Buzz stated. The only question is how much of a magnet.
DBS

San Jose, CA

#31 Aug 24, 2013
Why is BJ always so insanely jealous of people who are succesful?

Hey BJ, are you "Academically ahead of" Ari Symons too?

We already know about your other delusion concerning another Juris Doctorate of Law.
The Truth Hurts

Santa Cruz, CA

#32 Aug 24, 2013
Judge Symons has earned the respect of the Santa Cruz community for her hard work, her dedication to community service, and her concern for the community.

Becky Johnson has earned the ridicule of the Santa Cruz community for her inflammatory lies and rhetoric, her general disrespect towards authority, and her constant whining and complaining about issues she knows little to nothing about.

Does Becky Johnson even have a job? Professional troll doesn't count.

Consider the source.

Since: May 12

Santa Cruz, CA

#33 Aug 25, 2013
Becky Johnson wrote:
ED NATOL WRITES: The official number is roughly one in three perople came to Santa Cruz already homeless. Is that stat accurate? Maybe, maybe not. The margin of error coulg be pretty high depending on how they do the survey.
BECKY:The survey is done the way most surveys are done: people fill out a questionnaire & answer anonymously. The more people who fill out the survey, the more likely the results are to be accurate, however, how the questions are worded can sometimes skew the results.
Ariadne Symons is wrong: Santa Cruz is not a "magnet" for homeless people. Jobs & a network of support are. Santa Cruz has a very poor job to cost of living ratio. That is, low wages & a high cost of living. THis is an anti-magnet for poor & homeless people.
Finally, for Symons to urge the enforcement of "loitering laws" shows her legal incompetency. There is no legal authority to remove people from public spaces who are not doing anything.
Clear-thinking people should reject Symons fear-mongering, her xenophobia, and her call for unconstitutional actions in the face of this "crisis.
I'm suffering through Robert's show right now. He's talking to somebody who is helping defend the RV dwellers. He just mentioned the number of homeless living in Palo Alto. 150. Palo Alto is just about the same size as Santa Cruz. It is also even worse when dealing with the cost of living. So does Palo Alto have better services that keep more people in housing? I doubt it. So where are the homeless people in Palo Alto?

“Pearls before swine”

Since: Mar 08

Santa Cruz, CA.

#34 Aug 25, 2013
The Original Buzz writes: I've worked with dozens of homeless youth who candidly said they came here because of Santa Cruz's wealth of benefits--food, lenient legal system/few hassles, freebies, weather.

BECKY: The legal system is not hassle-free or lenient. Poor or homeless people simply don't have the resources to move long distances & won't do so just to get a free sandwich or a mat on a floor of a church. The vast majority of homeless people are found within 40 miles of the last place they had housing. The majority of OUR homeless last had housing in Santa Cruz County. Most cities in the USA today are experiencing between 1% and 3% of their population are experiencing homelessness. We are well within that limit.

A few anectdotal stories don't outweigh the bulk of the evidence: there is no homeless "magnet" in Santa Cruz compared to other County Seats.
Buzz

Pacifica, CA

#35 Aug 25, 2013
Becky Clueless Johnson wrote:
The Original Buzz writes: I've worked with dozens of homeless youth who candidly said they came here because of Santa Cruz's wealth of benefits--food, lenient legal system/few hassles, freebies, weather.
BECKY: The legal system is not hassle-free or lenient. Poor or homeless people simply don't have the resources to move long distances & won't do so just to get a free sandwich or a mat on a floor of a church. The vast majority of homeless people are found within 40 miles of the last place they had housing. The majority of OUR homeless last had housing in Santa Cruz County. Most cities in the USA today are experiencing between 1% and 3% of their population are experiencing homelessness. We are well within that limit.
A few anectdotal stories don't outweigh the bulk of the evidence: there is no homeless "magnet" in Santa Cruz compared to other County Seats.
You're flat out wrong. The fact that the arrested bum spent his previous night at 115 Coral Street doesn't make him local. Santa Cruz treats criminal acts as civil acts and fines the miscreant who uses the citation to light his next campfire.
You haven't mentioned providing housing for your sycophantic toady, John Colby. You're both out of touch with reality and spectacularly unsuccessful. A perfect match!
DBS

Sunnyvale, CA

#36 Aug 25, 2013
Becky Johnson wrote:
The Original Buzz writes: I've worked with dozens of homeless youth who candidly said they came here because of Santa Cruz's wealth of benefits--food, lenient legal system/few hassles, freebies, weather.
BECKY: The legal system is not hassle-free or lenient. Poor or homeless people simply don't have the resources to move long distances & won't do so just to get a free sandwich or a mat on a floor of a church. The vast majority of homeless people are found within 40 miles of the last place they had housing. The majority of OUR homeless last had housing in Santa Cruz County. Most cities in the USA today are experiencing between 1% and 3% of their population are experiencing homelessness. We are well within that limit.
A few anectdotal stories don't outweigh the bulk of the evidence: there is no homeless "magnet" in Santa Cruz compared to other County Seats.
Sure thing Whackjob.

Just like teachers earn $824 A day.

And it's the School system's fault you defaulted on your waste of student loans.
Symons Fan

Santa Cruz, CA

#37 Aug 29, 2013
Judge Symons will be on Ethan Bearman's radio show, KSCO 1080 at 12 Noon, Friday, August 30th.
If you are tired of the constipated prattlings of Robert Norse, failed homeless advocate, you might want to tune in for a real reality check!
Donny B

Falls Church, VA

#38 Aug 29, 2013
Symons Fan wrote:
Judge Symons will be on Ethan Bearman's radio show, KSCO 1080 at 12 Noon, Friday, August 30th.
If you are tired of the constipated prattlings of Robert Norse, failed homeless advocate, you might want to tune in for a real reality check!
Excellent! Judge Symons will contribute some much needed intelligent discourse to the air waves vs the BS from the likes of Norse.
The Truth Hurts

Santa Cruz, CA

#39 Aug 29, 2013
3 burglars arrested last night. What's the connection? They all list their address as "transient". They all got fed at the Homeless Services Center. 3 for 3. One hundred percent.

Bum magnet!
The Truth Hurts

Santa Cruz, CA

#40 Aug 29, 2013

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