Meth lab found in Bonny Doon barn, fi...

Meth lab found in Bonny Doon barn, first drug-cooking site discover...

There are 307 comments on the Santa Cruz Sentinel story from Jul 19, 2010, titled Meth lab found in Bonny Doon barn, first drug-cooking site discover.... In it, Santa Cruz Sentinel reports that:

Drug agents raided a methamphetamine lab hidden inside a dilapidated barn near Bonny Doon Airport late Saturday, but the man who allegedly had been cooking drugs there fled and has not been found, authorities said.

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no more meth

Capitola, CA

#70 Jul 20, 2010
Redbrick Downtown wrote:
People, it is time to legalize meth for recreational use.
I used to use meth as a medicine to help me get to work and work long hours, but I now see value in the substance as a recreational drug. Meth is made from pseudoephedrine which is found in ephedra, which is a plant. Plants and their alkaloids should not be illegal!
Please sign the petition to put meth legalization for recreationsl use on the upcoming ballot.
posting the same reply to this post you put on the newer article's forum:

meth is a very dangerous. it should never be legalized. it makes users psychotic, violent, aggressive, and paranoid.
rats

Capitola, CA

#71 Jul 20, 2010
informants wrote:
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probably snitches!
yup...stinkin little rats. nobody likes dirty little sell out rats!
meth madness continues

Watsonville, CA

#72 Jul 20, 2010
deranged criminals wrote:
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If the statements are true it is defamation. Also I know that particular couple: they are the ones harassing neighbors; they are the ones who make up untrue stories; they are the ones who can be sued for defamation of character; they are the ones who gave false testimony to state and federal officers. They are the criminals who should be in jail.
You can just look at them and see they are tweakers. Go look at the face of meth on the internet. Maybe it will shock you out of denial.
i think you meant, to correct you, "if the statements are true it is NOT defamation." no attorney would ever represent these cookers in a courtroom because they are obviously high on meth: the attorney could lose their bar license for malpractice.
meth madness continues

Watsonville, CA

#73 Jul 20, 2010
Redbrick Downtown wrote:
People, it is time to legalize meth for recreational use.
I used to use meth as a medicine to help me get to work and work long hours, but I now see value in the substance as a recreational drug. Meth is made from pseudoephedrine which is found in ephedra, which is a plant. Plants and their alkaloids should not be illegal!
Please sign the petition to put meth legalization for recreationsl use on the upcoming ballot.
meth kills. NEVER LEGALIZE METH!

all of the activity around the Mission Gardens Apartments centering around meth -- abuse, dealing and cooking -- is killing innocent residents by toxic byproducts, is slowly killing the residents and customers who abuse it, and will kill innocent bystanders like Carl Reimer who find themselves in the crossfire of meth induced gang violence.

meth kills. NEVER LEGALIZE METH!
Redbrick Downtown

Santa Cruz, CA

#75 Jul 20, 2010
meth madness continues wrote:
<quoted text>
meth kills. NEVER LEGALIZE METH!
all of the activity around the Mission Gardens Apartments centering around meth -- abuse, dealing and cooking -- is killing innocent residents by toxic byproducts, is slowly killing the residents and customers who abuse it, and will kill innocent bystanders like Carl Reimer who find themselves in the crossfire of meth induced gang violence.
meth kills. NEVER LEGALIZE METH!
Gang violence will cease to exist if everyone has access to legal meth. Our city and state coffers will benefit from the taxation of legal meth. Health care costs will be reduced as overdoses will be minimized with standardization in purity and strength. We can have Meth Cafes downtown to stimulate the shoppers. We have a right to put what we want in our bodies!
Meth comes from a plant for chrissake...Meth>psuedoephi drine>ephedrea(a plant!)
IT'S JUST A PLANT!
WRONG

Santa Cruz, CA

#76 Jul 21, 2010
meth madness continues wrote:
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i just realized that you are one of the friends of this couple i witnessed cooking meth. you are one of their friends who has been retaliating against me for reporting their meth cooking and her DUI driving (while having to use an electric wheelchair) through our neighborhoods to the SCPD and other government officials. if you are who i think you are, then you're an accessory in their crimes.
you and they have made my life miserable just because i am a good citizen who reports criminal activity to the police.
NOTE: the police welcome my tips to them, so this is not harassment.
Again, you are incorrect. I've had nothing to do with any of this, you or your or their conflicts.

I know the couple out in the community. Recently, they brought up their conflict with their neighbor over these charges. AS I SAID, I only made the connection last night. It was when you brought up her disability and posted her name. They have no idea I have written anything here.

I have seen your rants only here, for a long time under multiple names. I had no idea you were talking about someone I know.

The disability, which I do know about, causes severe movement disorder, and extreme speech difficulty. As the post you linked states, it is called Wilson's Disease. She
> really is < happy allot of the time, but struggles horrifically with WD and is human, dealing with Life, as we all are.
you do protest too much

Watsonville, CA

#79 Jul 21, 2010
WRONG wrote:
<quoted text>
Again, you are incorrect. I've had nothing to do with any of this, you or your or their conflicts.
I know the couple out in the community. Recently, they brought up their conflict with their neighbor over these charges. AS I SAID, I only made the connection last night. It was when you brought up her disability and posted her name. They have no idea I have written anything here.
I have seen your rants only here, for a long time under multiple names. I had no idea you were talking about someone I know.
The disability, which I do know about, causes severe movement disorder, and extreme speech difficulty. As the post you linked states, it is called Wilson's Disease. She
> really is < happy allot of the time, but struggles horrifically with WD and is human, dealing with Life, as we all are.
first you threaten me. then you malign me. and now you back peddle. i am certain you are one of this meth cooking couple's friends who know i have reported them to the police, one of their friends who have retaliated against me for my being a good citizen, terrorizing me because of their meth activities.
do your homework

Watsonville, CA

#80 Jul 21, 2010
loweroceanlocal wrote:
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wrong, you cannot cook meth over an open flame, it would cause an explosion. they do not cook meth over camp fires you are completely nuts, and sounding nutier by the minute, actually a hot plate is the more common equipment. you are lying. and a meth lab ends up putting off an odor that is similar to dirty socks, with a more chemical smell. i have friends who live where you do, and they all say they have smelled no such odor coming from there. you are full of it. just stop.
i beg to differ with your contention that meth cannot be cooked on a camp fire, stove or on a barbecue which you can use a frying pan with or which has a flat cooking surface like the huge one the meth cooking couple used to use:

http://ehstoday.com/fire_emergencyresponse/eh...

on several occasions i did smell the chemical odor you describe. however, if you do your research, you would find that cookers have found ways around producing a chemical odor using venting systems:

http://www.livoniafirefighters.com/index.cfm...

these meth cooker's operation fits the bill of many of the descriptive elements listed by the fire personnel in the article above.
bikerscum

San Jose, CA

#81 Jul 21, 2010
critical thinking wrote:
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no merely deduced on his comment not on his name!
Hate to break it to you, but I am not a he.

I wasn't deducing anything in my comments. The poster had stated that it was a lie that folks were cooking meth on their backyard barbecue. I was asking, if that were the case, what the poster thought gave the poster he was refering to the idea that the persons in question were cooking. I wasn't doing any critical thinking. I was merely asking a question.
bikerscum

San Jose, CA

#82 Jul 21, 2010
jeffrey newell wrote:
<quoted text> yeah right what the I mean that is some serious stero typing. probably one of those new locals.
In what way is this stereotyping? Perhaps you misinterpreted what I wrote.

By the way, I've been in Santa Cruz county since 1979. And you?
slam dunk

Watsonville, CA

#83 Jul 21, 2010
bikerscum wrote:
<quoted text>Hate to break it to you, but I am not a he.
I wasn't deducing anything in my comments. The poster had stated that it was a lie that folks were cooking meth on their backyard barbecue. I was asking, if that were the case, what the poster thought gave the poster he was refering to the idea that the persons in question were cooking. I wasn't doing any critical thinking. I was merely asking a question.
i witnessed activity which matched videos on youtube of how people cook meth. i saw what the videos showed. also, the activities of this couple at the Mission Gardens Apartments managed by The John Stewart Company match many of the descriptive elements listed on websites about how to ID meth cookers.

it's slam dunk.
bikerscum

San Jose, CA

#84 Jul 21, 2010
slam dunk wrote:
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i witnessed activity which matched videos on youtube of how people cook meth. i saw what the videos showed. also, the activities of this couple at the Mission Gardens Apartments managed by The John Stewart Company match many of the descriptive elements listed on websites about how to ID meth cookers.
it's slam dunk.
Thank you for answering my question. I appreciate it.
Google It

Watsonville, CA

#85 Jul 21, 2010
loweroceanlocal wrote:
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you can't cook meth on a barbeque, the police know this, this is why they are not busted... they are not cooking meth on a barbeque. cooking meth is nothing like cooking chicken. it takes a little more work than firing up the weber and would ruin the dope they were trying to cook, due to the fact that they could not precisely control the temperatures, quite frankely you sound like a nut.
Google "signs of meth cooking". You will see that you are incorrect. The internet is a valuable resource. Nobody has to be misinformed anymore.
WRONG

Santa Cruz, CA

#86 Jul 21, 2010
you do protest too much wrote:
<quoted text>
first you threaten me. then you malign me. and now you back peddle. i am certain you are one of this meth cooking couple's friends who know i have reported them to the police, one of their friends who have retaliated against me for my being a good citizen, terrorizing me because of their meth activities.
that's all very interesting...

ahem, uh, sure, OK, whatever you say...
Friends

Watsonville, CA

#87 Jul 21, 2010
WRONG wrote:
<quoted text>
Again, you are incorrect. I've had nothing to do with any of this, you or your or their conflicts.
I know the couple out in the community. Recently, they brought up their conflict with their neighbor over these charges. AS I SAID, I only made the connection last night. It was when you brought up her disability and posted her name. They have no idea I have written anything here.
I have seen your rants only here, for a long time under multiple names. I had no idea you were talking about someone I know.
The disability, which I do know about, causes severe movement disorder, and extreme speech difficulty. As the post you linked states, it is called Wilson's Disease. She
> really is < happy allot of the time, but struggles horrifically with WD and is human, dealing with Life, as we all are.
From reading this forum it sounds like you really don't know who your friends are or you need to get a better class of friends. The problem with people is if you don't scratch below the surface, you don't really know much about them. I am a member of AA. Have been for over 20 years. Many of the people lie about themselves. If you go on what people say without seeing them at home you can be duped. Since recovery and taking responsibility for myself I am very choosy about whom I call friend.
Mark Bloomington

United States

#89 Jul 21, 2010
You need a whole lab setup to synthesize methamphetamine. It's a complicated process and some of the ingredients are hard to get.

It's much harder than heating a few ingredients over a barbecue or camp fire.

If you had any evidence, the police would have investigated by now.
defending meth cookers

Watsonville, CA

#90 Jul 21, 2010
Mark Bloomington wrote:
You need a whole lab setup to synthesize methamphetamine. It's a complicated process and some of the ingredients are hard to get.
It's much harder than heating a few ingredients over a barbecue or camp fire.
If you had any evidence, the police would have investigated by now.
watch this video:

meth can be cooked at home by people who know nothing about chemistry. you are trying to misinform people. the truth about how pervasive and dangerous meth cooking by common criminals is, can be found all over the Internet.
why are a small group of people making up lies to try to defend the meth cookers at the Mission Gardens Apartments?
WRONG

Santa Cruz, CA

#91 Jul 22, 2010
bikerscum wrote:
<quoted text>Just for curiosity's sake, what are they doing that leads this person to believe they are cooking meth. Is the whole "burned bamboo curtain" thing a lie or delusion or just a misinterpretatation of what the person believes they are seeing?
Hello,

I have now confirmed from this couple themselves, and 3rd, 4th, and 5th parties I know, that there is no barbeque present at all. They once owned one, but gave that away to yet another person I know.
There is also no burned bamboo curtain.

This neighbor has been harassing this woman ever since her partner moved in. He has followed her on her errands and taunted her when outside. He tries to look into their area and makes weird noises.

He also has had major problems with other neighbors in the complex.

And now, he has how many?? obsessive, horrid posts on this forum?

Thank you for asking
WRONG

Santa Cruz, CA

#92 Jul 22, 2010
really are tweakers wrote:
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one of my friends lives at the same apartment complex. i know who is being talked about. this is what i have seen.
cooking it in plain, talking about cooking it, bragging about it, bragging about how much money they made selling it, bagging it in plain sight, talking about having to go make another sale, loitering at the local ???? selling it, having customers come by to buy, frequent 5-10 minutes drives in and out of complex, childlike behavior while high as a kite, wheeling around complex with arms out pretending to be an airplane screaming weeee...
only the tip of the iceberg!
if people seem too happy for no reason what so ever, chances are they are meth heads or bi-polar! this couple isn't bi-polar.
if people seem to have ants in their pants and can't sit still or talk really fast, chances are they are meth heads or have anxiety. however anxious people aren't happy people so anxiety can be ruled out.
Nice try,-same person- NONE of this is happening. Maybe they walk, talk and are happy because they have a life...working, paying taxes and volunteering, to help others in their community. Maybe people come to visit them because they've made many friends.
WRONG

Santa Cruz, CA

#93 Jul 22, 2010
you do protest too much wrote:
<quoted text>
first you threaten me. then you malign me. and now you back peddle. i am certain you are one of this meth cooking couple's friends who know i have reported them to the police, one of their friends who have retaliated against me for my being a good citizen, terrorizing me because of their meth activities.
Do you actually believe this? You are WRONG.

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