The tragedy of an adolescent's suicide

The tragedy of an adolescent's suicide

There are 36 comments on the Santa Cruz Sentinel story from Apr 4, 2010, titled The tragedy of an adolescent's suicide. In it, Santa Cruz Sentinel reports that:

The loss of life at any age is traumatic enough. Suicide of a teenager is a deep loss to the family and society and evokes great pain and bewilderment for all.

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neary

San Francisco, CA

#22 Apr 5, 2010
jim green wrote:
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You seem like a kind person, but since you're mentally unstable, I doubt folks will value your opinion or your civil rights. That's sad.
Actually, my civil rights are protected, thank you. My opinion is also valued, though obviously not by you. What is sad is the ease with which you are willing to stigmatize, in a public forum, someone who admits to having had mental problems. I suggest you might want to reevaluate your own reaction to me, which seems to stem from fear, not knowledge or reality.
grammarian

Santa Cruz, CA

#23 Apr 5, 2010
Lame wrote:
I feel like dying all the time and I don't feel any of those "symptoms" I just look at the majority of people and how the world is....crime,violence,abuse,pro poganda.....that makes me want to leave this horride place.
You should seek help. "Wanting to leave" is a symptom--unless you're at a bad concert. By the way, I like the way you spell "horrid"; if we all spelled it that way and if we said, "HORR-EEEED," then maybe we use that word less. And we could use "benevolent" or "placid" more.
Lost2friends2it

Watsonville, CA

#24 Apr 5, 2010
Suicide; the ultimate act of pure selfishness.
Food for thought

Brisbane, CA

#25 Apr 5, 2010
Lost2friends2it wrote:
Suicide; the ultimate act of pure selfishness.
People don't commit suicide because they want to die. They do it because they don't think the pain will ever stop.

As a society we better understand why cancer "survivors" would want to ease their physical pain. But people who suffer mental anguish have far fewer treatment options. Doctors aren't very good at curing psychological pain. And yet we expect them to soldier on, because we don't understand their pain.

(And to my two friends who took their lives, you're greatly missed.)
diehard

Santa Cruz, CA

#26 Apr 5, 2010
JJJ wrote:
"Individuate" ? seriously, thats a word? sounds like made up psychobabble to me.
your word is educate.

Since: May 08

Santa Cruz, CA

#27 Apr 6, 2010
Emperor Norton The Second wrote:
Um, there is bullying and intolerance in Santa Cruz as well. Comforting for me? I don't get it.
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You seemed to be putting all the blame on Republicans. "Republican" seems to be equivalent to intolerant and all things bad in your world.

My point is that you ought to drop the labels, as it's not quite as simple as you seem to think. There is no difference whatsoever between the two political parties ethically or morally. If you really think there is, you have blinders on and are being quite selective in what you choose to see.

Since: May 08

Santa Cruz, CA

#28 Apr 6, 2010
Excuse me, I misspoke, I should have reread your other post first.

Substitute "conservative" in the above post for "Republican."

Since: May 08

Santa Cruz, CA

#29 Apr 6, 2010
Food for thought wrote:
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People don't commit suicide because they want to die. They do it because they don't think the pain will ever stop.
As a society we better understand why cancer "survivors" would want to ease their physical pain. But people who suffer mental anguish have far fewer treatment options. Doctors aren't very good at curing psychological pain. And yet we expect them to soldier on, because we don't understand their pain.
(And to my two friends who took their lives, you're greatly missed.)
The two things are not incompatible - people commit suicide because they don't think the pain will ever stop AND it is the ultimate act of selfishness.

Shouldn't a person consider the pain they will create for those they leave behind?

How many people do not kill themselves yet feel despair but soldier on? I believe it's many more than the number who carry through. I don't think that "understanding one's pain" is particularly necessary either.

Simply understanding another's pain is little relief to the one in pain. Perhaps convincing the suicidal person that their pain is temporary would be a better strategy.

I also don't believe that deep despair and depression are necessarily caused by emotional pain, but can be (and perhaps usually are) caused by hormones.
BuddHopkins

Watsonville, CA

#30 Apr 6, 2010
The situation is temporary, but suicide is permanent.
Instead of feeding the vicious cycle of anger, fear, depression and shame in order to maintain a clientele, mental health professional have the ability to heal their patients by reminding them of their talents and accomplishments, building their confidence, reminding them to accept realities they don't like, appreciating the people and good things in their lives that they possess, having a timley sense of humor, knowing their limitations and ability to influence the decisions of others, etc.

That's why they make the BIG bucks!
Isaac
#31 Sep 23, 2013
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jeff helms

El Cerrito, CA

#32 Sep 23, 2013
Xanthippe wrote:
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Pretty neat explanation, and must be very comforting for you.
What explains the Santa Cruz adolescents who kill themselves?
People are just shocked, the kids are facing homelessness and poverty with out schooling or healthcare with 5 deadly zoonotic std infections in a latino wannabe society full of prostitutes and poison plague and treachery!!! Would you want to live in that atmosphere??
jeff helms

El Cerrito, CA

#33 Sep 23, 2013
Xanthippe wrote:
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Pretty neat explanation, and must be very comforting for you.
What explains the Santa Cruz adolescents who kill themselves?
Our produce is grown outside the U.S. now and is fecal contaminated, EVen if the youngster's have enough cash to buy a hamburger? Their is a foreign organized drug front member with hpv/hiv on a std medication work program living in a expensive 1 bedroom apartment with 12 people who will put fecal matter or stryc-nine in the hamburger/.
jeff helms

El Cerrito, CA

#34 Sep 23, 2013
Xanthippe wrote:
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Pretty neat explanation, and must be very comforting for you.
What explains the Santa Cruz adolescents who kill themselves?
In a few years, you'll see 10 year old or less prostitutes standing on the corner-products of that great "we are working" work force of doom.
jeff helms

Berkeley, CA

#35 Sep 24, 2013
This is state is broke: B R O K E , broke, california is leading the nation in tourism and technology,agriculture etc. and its in the "red" so to speak, the std/drug healthcare bills are so huge this state will not recover financially without a huge conflict-the people who washed narcotic money in real estate who set up and supported the foreign organized drug fronts who pretty much caused all the std/drug healthcare bills, HAVE to give the real estate back to the fed to pay the bills they helped fuel
jeff helms

United States

#36 Sep 24, 2013
As ironic as it sounds!! With the medi-cal estate recovery play--most of the real estate WILL go back into fed! Ha@-std full circle!! Anyways--who has the patent for protease inhibitors(hiv aids meds)????---and who do we owe most of the money too??----China!!!!! This state went chinese 5 years ago and no one knows!!!! Chinese people are pretty cool, they don't like criminal behavior-their mostly monogamous and reserved etc., they always showed me respect etc.
Hazel

UK

#38 Jan 30, 2014
I've been on Effexor from http://goo.gl/TRCx1y only one week but am cautiously very optimistic. Prior to this I was on citalopram but still feeling very low and sleeping poorly, feeling like I needed to be in bed 12-16 hours a day. Now I am waking naturally after only 8 hours sleep and finding it much easier to concentrate at work. I can hardly believe it is working so quickly but I feel so much better. I've had no side effects.

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