Man convicted again in 2000 Bixby Street killings

There are 35 comments on the Santa Cruz Sentinel story from Jan 16, 2009, titled Man convicted again in 2000 Bixby Street killings. In it, Santa Cruz Sentinel reports that:

Jurors again have convicted a Watsonville man accused gunning down three young Salvadorian immigrants on Bixby Street in 2000.

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Michelle

Fremont, CA

#1 Jan 16, 2009
I remember that night in 2000, it was right the Friday before Mermorial Day weekend, there was a dance at the vets hall, I was there. It was a crzy night and those young men from Bixby Street died for a dumb reason, his shirt color. I'm glad they retired this case and he is going back to jail, were he belongs.

RIP Vladimir Hernandez,Luis Reyes Escobar,and Javier Gonzales Escalante.
Moni

Oakland, CA

#2 Jan 16, 2009
You do the crime, you do the time. I hope that guy stays in jail forever. When did he send out the memo telling people what color shirt they can or can't wear. Gang bangers and people who kill people are LOSERS.
Rosie

Los Altos, CA

#3 Jan 16, 2009
Nobody knows what happend that night in 2000, and who are we to judge. He has been out now for a couple of years with no criminal crime or trouble everyone deserves a second chance as for the families of the victims forever they will suffer. So if you dont know the facts dont judge. God is the only who has the right to judge us. Jail is not where he belongs where are tax dollars are a waste especially in this terrible economy right now.
Billy

United States

#4 Jan 16, 2009
Illegal immigrants killing each other.
Steve

United States

#6 Jan 16, 2009
God and the jurors know what happened that night. He's the one who wanted a jury trial. He was found guilty the first time in 2003 and got off on a technicality. We "The People" don't want a killer on our city streets.

People need to think about their actions before they commit a crime.
curb your cat

Oakland, CA

#7 Jan 16, 2009
Hey Rosie,

there is no god to judge. that's why criminals are still out there.
Caelum Sinclair

Aptos, CA

#8 Jan 16, 2009
Rosie wrote:
Nobody knows what happend that night in 2000, and who are we to judge. He has been out now for a couple of years with no criminal crime or trouble everyone deserves a second chance as for the families of the victims forever they will suffer. So if you dont know the facts dont judge. God is the only who has the right to judge us. Jail is not where he belongs where are tax dollars are a waste especially in this terrible economy right now.
We know he killed three people and that two different juries found him guilty - are you seriously suggesting he should just get a pass on this?
Arrest them all

Santa Cruz, CA

#9 Jan 16, 2009
Rosie wrote:
Nobody knows what happend that night in 2000, and who are we to judge. He has been out now for a couple of years with no criminal crime or trouble everyone deserves a second chance as for the families of the victims forever they will suffer. So if you dont know the facts dont judge. God is the only who has the right to judge us. Jail is not where he belongs where are tax dollars are a waste especially in this terrible economy right now.
We know that they drove from Santa Cruz to Watsonville, got a gun, drove back to Santa Cruz, and shot the gun from inside the car, killing 3 people. Are you saying that did not happen? Do you want to dispute that?
This was not involentary manslaughter. This was premeditated murder.
You think the killer deserves a second chance? He didn't give his victims a second chance.
And you don't think the killer belongs in jail? Are you serious?
Did I get anything wrong? Yes, I will judge this killer.
Wescruz

Santa Cruz, CA

#10 Jan 16, 2009
Retrying cases. Appeals.
These things SHOW INCOMPETENCE to begin with.
The justice system needs to get it's act together and DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME!!
Our U.S. Constitution states that a person SHOULD NOT BE TRIED TWICE FOR THE SAME CRIME!!! Now what the blank is going on?
local yokel

Santa Cruz, CA

#11 Jan 16, 2009
Those three young men from Watsonville were looking for trouble that night. They went to the dance at the Vets Hall with gang colors on. When they got slapped around they drove from Santa Cruz to Watsonville to get a gun, and then back to Santa Cruz to shoot someone, to shoot anyone. They were charged and CONVICTED of murder in 2003, and then the verdict was overturned on a technicality. It was premeditated.

By the way, the shooter was born here. He's not an illegal, he's a US Citizen. Get your facts straight Billy from San Jose.
TaxPaynMeatEatn Republicn

Santa Cruz, CA

#12 Jan 16, 2009
Wescruz wrote:
Retrying cases. Appeals.
These things SHOW INCOMPETENCE to begin with.
The justice system needs to get it's act together and DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME!!
Our U.S. Constitution states that a person SHOULD NOT BE TRIED TWICE FOR THE SAME CRIME!!! Now what the blank is going on?
He was found guilty. Looks like a higher court set aside the conviction without prejudice.
local yokel

Santa Cruz, CA

#13 Jan 16, 2009
Wescruz wrote:
Retrying cases. Appeals.
These things SHOW INCOMPETENCE to begin with.
The justice system needs to get it's act together and DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME!!
Our U.S. Constitution states that a person SHOULD NOT BE TRIED TWICE FOR THE SAME CRIME!!! Now what the blank is going on?
No, he was tried the first time for murder and the second time for manslaughter. There is a BIG difference. He could have received the death penalty for the murder of three people. Now he will get 24 years maximum.
Caelum Sinclair

Aptos, CA

#14 Jan 16, 2009
Wescruz wrote:
Retrying cases. Appeals.
These things SHOW INCOMPETENCE to begin with.
The justice system needs to get it's act together and DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME!!
Our U.S. Constitution states that a person SHOULD NOT BE TRIED TWICE FOR THE SAME CRIME!!! Now what the blank is going on?


A retrial after a conviction has been reversed on appeal does not violate double jeopardy because the judgment in the first trial has been invalidated.
realitynotpc

Hayward, CA

#15 Jan 16, 2009
local yokel wrote:
Those three young men from Watsonville were looking for trouble that night. They went to the dance at the Vets Hall with gang colors on. When they got slapped around they drove from Santa Cruz to Watsonville to get a gun, and then back to Santa Cruz to shoot someone, to shoot anyone. They were charged and CONVICTED of murder in 2003, and then the verdict was overturned on a technicality. It was premeditated.
By the way, the shooter was born here. He's not an illegal, he's a US Citizen. Get your facts straight Billy from San Jose.
You need to get YOUR facts straight, they were convicted of manslaughter never of murder. Either the DA at the time (2003) or a batch of incompetent jurors could not come up with a murder 1 even though they drove from SC to Watsonville, picked up a gun, drove back and then killed 3 people with the same gun. If that's not premeditated I don't know what is. This case was infuriorating in 2003 and it is again in 2009, all 3 should be gone for life.
slightly salty

San Jose, CA

#16 Jan 16, 2009
Wow it took 8 years to get this done. But at least it's done.
local yokel

Santa Cruz, CA

#17 Jan 16, 2009
realitynotpc wrote:
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You need to get YOUR facts straight, they were convicted of manslaughter never of murder. Either the DA at the time (2003) or a batch of incompetent jurors could not come up with a murder 1 even though they drove from SC to Watsonville, picked up a gun, drove back and then killed 3 people with the same gun. If that's not premeditated I don't know what is. This case was infuriorating in 2003 and it is again in 2009, all 3 should be gone for life.
Oh gosh, you're right, I'm wrong. It was manslaughter the 1st time, not murder. But the fact is, the shooter wasn't an illegal alien. That's the fact I was clarifying. Soooo sorry. My bad. I am so embarrassed now. Jeepers.
Wescruz

Santa Cruz, CA

#18 Jan 16, 2009
Caelum Sinclair wrote:
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A retrial after a conviction has been reversed on appeal does not violate double jeopardy because the judgment in the first trial has been invalidated.
To me it just reinforces what I stated above.
INCOMPETENCE.
Wescruz

Santa Cruz, CA

#19 Jan 16, 2009
Caelum Sinclair wrote:
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A retrial after a conviction has been reversed on appeal does not violate double jeopardy because the judgment in the first trial has been invalidated.
That just in my opinion reinforces what I stated above. INCOMPETENCE.
Total Goofball

Milpitas, CA

#20 Jan 16, 2009
Rosie wrote:
Nobody knows what happend that night in 2000, and who are we to judge. He has been out now for a couple of years with no criminal crime or trouble everyone deserves a second chance as for the families of the victims forever they will suffer. So if you dont know the facts dont judge. God is the only who has the right to judge us. Jail is not where he belongs where are tax dollars are a waste especially in this terrible economy right now.
That's just loco. You must be related to him or his squeeze. He was convicted, twice, so ya he does deserve jail. How's this for logic? I killed. I'm gonna be nice now so they'll let me go. I'll never do it again. I promise. Just because he tells you he's not involved in anything criminal doesn't mean it's true.
Tony

San Jose, CA

#21 Jan 16, 2009
Wescruz wrote:
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That just in my opinion reinforces what I stated above. INCOMPETENCE.
That's stupid. The legal system was written in a way as to provide such instances. You want it right the first time? You draft your own constitution and perhaps hire robots to try cases so it comes out PERFECT EVERY TIME!!!

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