Take Back Santa Cruz/Greiner Archive
Dim Sum

Santa Cruz, CA

#452 Dec 31, 2013
John doesn't read. He just writes.
TBSC Loon Dylan Greiner

Hayward, CA

#453 Dec 31, 2013
no one wrote:
<quoted text> The law did say he "molested" them. Turns out there was NO THEM. Law lied!
Did they? A judge has held Greiner for trial for molesting at least one girl physically. It sounds like she will be the main witness against him.

Did Greiner not touch those other girls? Did he just secretly film them?

You probably know more about Greiner than I do, though it sounds like you have questionable ethics.
TBSC Loon Dylan Greiner

Hayward, CA

#454 Dec 31, 2013
ex WSr wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL, you talk in circles.
It sounds like I'm "aiding and abetting the crime"? What?!
You don't know anything, you make it all up.
Not one post of mine has ever defended his alleged abuse.
You sound like a person that didn't have sexual contact with what turns you on until you were out of high school, or if I follow your logic: For all I know you are the one storing his photos on your hard drive, with the rest of your perverted things. You seem to know so much about what he has done, what he had on his computer, and everything related to him. You are such a stalker that everyone can see it but you, you think it's normal.
Yes, and maybe you are threatening potential witnesses?

You made this sick comment....

"Let's just tell it like it is:
He's not the first, nor will he be the last guy over 18 years of age that hooks up or tries to hook up with a girl under 18. I guarantee that 80% of the surfers that grow up here, or anywhere for that matter, have left high school and still had little chicks coming to their parties to get laid by the cool guys with the drugs, the money, and cars (that are over 18). People trip on UCSC and SC rape statistics? Think about it. College party's, underage females, drugs, sex. It happens and will always happen, regardless of morals, ethics, or laws."

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/santa-cruz-ca...

No, troll, 80% of surfers do NOT party with young girls.

That sounds like some weird TBSC statistic.
TBSC Loon Dylan Greiner

Hayward, CA

#455 Dec 31, 2013
Contra Costa Times article from December 21.....

Santa Cruz surf instructor held to answer on child molestation, child pornography charges
http://www.contracostatimes.com/news/ci_24773...
no one

San Luis, AZ

#456 Dec 31, 2013
I guess you're ok with SCPD picking and choosing who breaks the law? I have questions about police ethics. Not yours!
ex WSr

Santa Cruz, CA

#457 Dec 31, 2013
TBSC Loon Dylan Greiner wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, and maybe you are threatening potential witnesses?
You made this sick comment....
"Let's just tell it like it is:
He's not the first, nor will he be the last guy over 18 years of age that hooks up or tries to hook up with a girl under 18. I guarantee that 80% of the surfers that grow up here, or anywhere for that matter, have left high school and still had little chicks coming to their parties to get laid by the cool guys with the drugs, the money, and cars (that are over 18). People trip on UCSC and SC rape statistics? Think about it. College party's, underage females, drugs, sex. It happens and will always happen, regardless of morals, ethics, or laws."
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/santa-cruz-ca...
No, troll, 80% of surfers do NOT party with young girls.
That sounds like some weird TBSC statistic.
Now you say that maybe I AM threatening potential witnesses? How in the world did you come up with that one?

The comment I made is from personal experience. It's not sick, it's reality.

Let's break down what I said in a nutshell:
1) He's not the first and he wont' be the last to be a pervert.
2) 80% of the surfers (input jocks) that grow up here, or anywhere for that matter, have graduated high school and been to parties from age 19 and up with underage drinking and on drug under 18 girls that are DTF (I'll cite Jersey Shores for that one).
3) I didn't excuse his behavior or defend it. I gave a personal experience account from growing up here.

If you haven't been to a high school or college party, we would have never known by how obsessed you are about sex and the conduct of others. It's like you've just stepped out of a closet!
TBSC Loons

Hayward, CA

#458 Dec 31, 2013
no one wrote:
I guess you're ok with SCPD picking and choosing who breaks the law? I have questions about police ethics. Not yours!
I havent seen any evidence that other people have committed any crimes related to this case, and though TBSC does seem to be covering for Greiner, I dont think they have broken any laws.
no one

San Luis, AZ

#459 Dec 31, 2013
I guess its not in favor of police to arrest other guy. Wouldnt want to put out there to the public that the girl pursues older men and hurt her creditability.
alphonso

Santa Cruz, CA

#460 Dec 31, 2013
I've been meaning to ask you this, TBSC Loon Troll:

Why won't you make that remark about the slain SCPD and the accusations you made about Butch Baker molesting people that you've made here on Topix on the DAY THAT THEY WERE MURDERED!?

Post it on the Sentinel. I want to see the reaction it gets. I bet you you'll receive the same hate for it there, but with a larger populace to judge and shun you.
alphonso

Santa Cruz, CA

#461 Dec 31, 2013
Here's the link for your convenience.

http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/santacruz/ci...
alphonso

Santa Cruz, CA

#462 Dec 31, 2013
I forgot, you covered your butt by making it a question rather than an accusation. So don't bother dipping and dodging on that remark.
no one

San Luis, AZ

#463 Dec 31, 2013
TBSC Loons wrote:
<quoted text>
I havent seen any evidence that other people have committed any crimes related to this case, and though TBSC does seem to be covering for Greiner, I dont think they have broken any laws.
Police report was filed. Truths the truth.
no one

San Luis, AZ

#464 Jan 1, 2014
ex WSr wrote:
oh and i know exactly who you are talking about "no one."
prime example of kids that grew up here and never really grew up.
just surf, party, and get some puss
I hope he doesnt take advantage of any other underage girls. Wonder how a parent would feel knowing police were aware of his illegal conduct and was not held accountable.
MGA Resident

San Rafael, CA

#465 Jan 1, 2014
no one wrote:
<quoted text> I hope he doesnt take advantage of any other underage girls. Wonder how a parent would feel knowing police were aware of his illegal conduct and was not held accountable.
We were on top of it at Mission Gardens Apartments and got our resident child molester evicted. His sister is next. She was an enabler for his predatory behavior.
ex WSr

Santa Cruz, CA

#466 Jan 1, 2014
no one wrote:
<quoted text> I hope he doesnt take advantage of any other underage girls. Wonder how a parent would feel knowing police were aware of his illegal conduct and was not held accountable.
I'm in agreement with what you are saying and the world is full of crazy people, as evidenced by this forum alone.
no one

San Luis, AZ

#467 Jan 1, 2014
ex WSr wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm in agreement with what you are saying and the world is full of crazy people, as evidenced by this forum alone.
I guess its just a sad example of the way the justice system really works. Great work SCPD!
curious goat

Santa Cruz, CA

#468 Jan 1, 2014
just out of curiosity

does anyone else notice the cat dude misspelling steve clark's last name as clerk?

i find it odd and interesting as to why

how can you go to college for over 10 years and make a mistake like that on more than one occasion unless it is on purpose

The Original Buzz

“The buck stops here!”

Since: Sep 12

Scotts Valley

#469 Jan 2, 2014
Greiner is less of a danger to the community than John E Colby who started this threads and posts as TBSC Loons, et al and has posted as DBS, Buzz, Check on Reality, Donny B, endless bummer, takes these names from posters who have offended him by commenting on his crackpot posts. He also frequently posts as Skeptic and Casual Observer.
In his real life, John is an obese, angry, whiny, unemployed, delusional paranoid psychotic who resembles the Pillsbury Dough Boy and lives with his equally morbidly obese sister Pat and two incontinent cats in the Mission Gardens section 8 housing on Grandview in Santa Cruz.
John possesses an enormous, but totally unjustified ego. He claims to have a PhD from UCSC, but lives on public assistance. All the above is verifiable from letters written to IndyBay, Metro Santa Cruz, Topix, the Santa Cruz Sentinel and the San Jose Mercury News. He started on a tirade about meth. He brought meth into almost every thread he posted til it became ludicrous, and he still kept going. MAYBE this is why he's such a mess today.
John's "job" is trying to control all the Topix threads with time outs where he barrages city and county leaders with demands--none of which get serious consideration. He's sent out many complaints to HUD about his section 8 housing and has an ongoing war with JS Co who manages his complex. He's complained for over 3 years, but there he stays. Over 30 of his neighbors signed a petition to have him evicted, alleging he was a threat to children. Unfortunately, John is in a protected class and his neighbors are stuck living next to a ticking time bomb (my opinion).
John also loves to accuse his critics (people he doesn't know except for their posting names which he hijacks) of using meth, being on welfare, being unemployed and doing criminal acts of which there is no evidence. What's the term for someone who projects all his failings on to someone else?
This lead to his EVICTION from Mission Gardens for:
•Disrupting liveability
•Adversely affecting health, safety and right to quiet enjoyment
•Adverse financial effect on project
•Ongoing harassment of other tenants
•Photographing female caregivers after dark
•False complaints and harassment of staff
•False accusations
•Gathering and publishing personal data
•Publishing personal “genealogical analysis” and “family tree’ of staff and family
•Stalking behavior
•Hostile confrontations
•Aggressive interrogation
•Hostile and inappropriate interactions
•Hang-up phone calls to staff’s home numbers
•Loudly discussing (threatening)“going postal”
•Frightening staff
•Harassment of residents
•Causing multiple unreasonable expenditures
•Making multiple false and baseless complaints
•Require substantial management time and resources
and culminated in his expulsion from CFABSC.
In an email to Robert Kahn-Job on November 25, 2013, Steve Pleich states his reasons for evicting John E. Colby from the "Citizens for a Better Santa Cruz" group:
"John consistently attacks those whom he deems to be engaged in some unlawful or secretive enterprise without any foundation in fact whatever. These arguments are always subject to evidence he thinks he will discover through the requests for public records that never seem to yield the substantive proof he needs. By contrast and to be fair, when you criticize or take exception to something, your arguments invariably contain some facts in support or, at least, some scintilla of evidence. I did not create CFAB SC as a forum for John's ceaseless screed about how unfair the world seems to him personally and as a whole; He has two perfectly serviceable facebook pages of his own to publish and pursue that agenda.
By the way, the final "tipping point" for me was John's most recent attack post in which he attributed his facts in support to a "tipster"; his word, not mine."
John has had a very bad year AND it was all his doing!
Donny B

Falls Church, VA

#470 Jan 2, 2014
An addendum to Buzz's post above.

READERS PLEASE NOTE: The fact that John was readmitted to the CFABSC doesn't mitigate John's deranged and hostile actions as stated in Steve Pleich's email above. It DOES say that Steve Pleich is a charitable man by taking pity on the ColbyLoon and giving him yet one more chance.It's an almost certainty that John Colby will blow it yet again and be evicted in 2014. The only question is... How soon?
no one

San Luis, AZ

#471 Jan 2, 2014
Interesting how I made a valid point and there hasnt been any argument from him sense.

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