Officer innocent in Abuse Video on Pacific Garden Mall.

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j helms

Oakland, CA

#1 Jan 13, 2014
I just saw the video and in no way did the officer slam that guy down--that's bullsh_t---looks like the guy was severely intoxicated and his weight carried him down and he was too loaded to right himself. That's not the fault of the officer--he the guy loaded wants to get squirrely loaded and fall over--that's not the fault of the police officer. The police have to get those guy off the mall , because they are going to pee,poop, throw-up,sleep etc. and might even freeze to death, which is really bad for the merchants etc.and can cause harm to the loaded guys. That guy weighs 170-180 pounds and for the cop to catch him would be nice?? But,to catch a falling 170 pound weight falling??? That's not easy---the police officer did not throw the loaded guy to the ground, he fell and was probably unconscious before he hit the ground.

http://youtu.be/1Tyj3yxwy-o
j helms

Oakland, CA

#2 Jan 13, 2014
The guy kicked at the police officer------and its standard procedure for the officer to "subdue" etc.---but the guy fell over. If he was not loaded etc. he would have put his leg foward and righted himself etc.
j helms

Oakland, CA

#3 Jan 13, 2014
The officer spun the guy around etc., but the guy fell over, obviously--I'm a native and the guy was a native etc.-- the cop being latino, if I thought their was a "abuse" I would say so--I don't think so.
j helms

Oakland, CA

#4 Jan 13, 2014
If the guy would not have been so loaded, he would not have fell over on his face.or falling over at all etc.--that's 170+ pounds dead weight fall over, and with the cops weight etc.---but with his hands being cuffed etc. and him getting hurt etc.--that means his injuries are the responsibility of the police and they are libel for his injuries etc., the cop was at fault for his injuries BUT ,I don't think he did on purpose or intended to hurt the guy. Alcoholics are hard to deal with.
j helms

Oakland, CA

#5 Jan 13, 2014
Not only that, for the loaded guy to pick his foot up off the curb and right himself etc without tripping etc.. --that's asking alot-but not the police officers fault.
j helms

Oakland, CA

#6 Jan 13, 2014
The police officer took chances turning around a guy cuffed and loaded and facing him towards a "tripping object" like a curb etc. and pushing his weight etc., they guy fell and got hurt--BUT the police officer did not intend for that to happen, and for the police officer to "catch" 170+ weight etc.----is hard to do. The guy was "combative" etc. by kicking, BUT, the police officer is libel for his injuries because the loaded guy was cuffed---the police officer will probably get into trouble and the loaded guy has a lawsuit.
Durzo Blint

Santa Cruz, CA

#7 Jan 13, 2014
I felt the same way about that video, j helms. Don't let the hysteria of our homeless advocates change the facts of the matter. The cop is not responsible for the actions of a drunk person. Case in point, when I was a teen I was picked up for being drunk in public. I fell down while they were trying to put me in the car. Was it their fault for my personal lack of control? No. It was my fault for being loaded, unable to control my movement, and busted. People that cannot take care of themselves are a risk to not just themselves but to the people they are around. If you twist, turn, don't follow instructions, and kick/hit/yell at a P.O. you are the one in the wrong. Similarly, if you don't follow the law and break it you will be busted at some point. Druggies and alcoholics consistently break the law and at some point their life will be in shamble and they may be in shackles.
j helms

Oakland, CA

#8 Jan 13, 2014
Durzo Blint wrote:
I felt the same way about that video, j helms. Don't let the hysteria of our homeless advocates change the facts of the matter. The cop is not responsible for the actions of a drunk person. Case in point, when I was a teen I was picked up for being drunk in public. I fell down while they were trying to put me in the car. Was it their fault for my personal lack of control? No. It was my fault for being loaded, unable to control my movement, and busted. People that cannot take care of themselves are a risk to not just themselves but to the people they are around. If you twist, turn, don't follow instructions, and kick/hit/yell at a P.O. you are the one in the wrong. Similarly, if you don't follow the law and break it you will be busted at some point. Druggies and alcoholics consistently break the law and at some point their life will be in shamble and they may be in shackles.
This is improper handling of a person in cuffs---which is incompetent---the police officer is liable and not a very good handler of people.
Bluto Squint

Santa Cruz, CA

#9 Jan 13, 2014
j helms wrote:
I just saw the video and in no way did the officer slam that guy down--that's bullsh_t---looks like the guy was severely intoxicated and his weight carried him down and he was too loaded to right himself. That's not the fault of the officer--he the guy loaded wants to get squirrely loaded and fall over--that's not the fault of the police officer. The police have to get those guy off the mall , because they are going to pee,poop, throw-up,sleep etc. and might even freeze to death, which is really bad for the merchants etc.and can cause harm to the loaded guys. That guy weighs 170-180 pounds and for the cop to catch him would be nice?? But,to catch a falling 170 pound weight falling??? That's not easy---the police officer did not throw the loaded guy to the ground, he fell and was probably unconscious before he hit the ground.
http://youtu.be/1Tyj3yxwy-o
Good call Jeff. It's nice to know you haven't drunk the Colby Kool Aid.
j helms

Oakland, CA

#10 Jan 13, 2014
Bluto Squint wrote:
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Good call Jeff. It's nice to know you haven't drunk the Colby Kool Aid.
their is so many people using--I'm sure the mall 12:00 am roll up police squad is in trouble all the time.
j helms

Oakland, CA

#11 Jan 13, 2014
Someone really broke their weenie to bury this one?----That jewelry store is a battle---I don't know if its worth it???? Is Mr. Dell happy??
j helms

Oakland, CA

#12 Jan 13, 2014
I don't know I think the peruvians over did it in alot ways. I not sure if the peruvians can fix what they did? The miss-handling did not help.
jhelms

Oakland, CA

#13 Jan 13, 2014
Does the officer involved in the incompetent have the college credits to even be a police officer--or is he a profession fraud person just like the rest of the peruvians??? The peruvians think this a "island" for some reason??? Or they can walk around invisible and racketeer and commit class b federal felonies and get away with it.
jhelms

Oakland, CA

#14 Jan 13, 2014
Ever since the prop 36 funds the bnai moshe showed and started interfering with incompetency and racketeering.
DBS

Sunnyvale, CA

#15 Feb 25, 2014
Too bad it wasn't ColbyLOSER that got his head slammed by the SCPD.

We all know he deserves it.

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