Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Safety pins and screws are still lodged in 15-year-old Ami Ortiz's body three months after he opened a booby-trapped gift basket sent to his family.

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JOEL COOL DUDE

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#75150 Jul 11, 2014
I will be busy for the next hour or so. I am at home. Bye. Later.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#75152 Jul 11, 2014
I was amused to just discover that screw_driver, without the hyphen, is apparently too racy for Mr. Robo-censor.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#75153 Jul 11, 2014
HughBe----Lesson: True followers of the Christ,Jesus, are far closer to "ancient Judaism" than are the Judahists of today.

scirocco---Total nonsense.

HughBe--- noted.

Sci---Anyone who knows the Shema, Isaiah 43:11, Psalm 146:3, and Hosea 13:4 knows the truth.

HughBe--- What truth is that, Sci?

Your passages next.
Isaiah 43:11 "I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no saviour."

Indeed besides Jehovah, a family name, there is no Saviour and of course Jehovah is the Father and the Son or Angel of the Lord. see below in order to be enlightened.

Psalm 146:3---" Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help."

Do YOU trust your rabbis?

Do YOU trust the prophets?

God called Ezekiel " SON OF MAN, speak to the children of thy people, and say unto them, When I bring the sword upon a land, if the people of the land take a man of their coasts, and set him for their watchman" Ezekiel 33:2

So do YOU trust God's prophets or do you only trust your god-men or rabbis who are clearly not sons of men in your mind.

Hosea 13:4 "Yet I am the Lord thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me."

Now son, do NOT twist the scripture and tell me if the Angel of the Lord is the same as Jehovah. Read and UNDERSTAND "I am the God who came to you at Bethel" and tell me who is the God that is being spoken of? Is it Jehovah?

Genesis 31" The angel of God spoke to me in that dream. The angel said,‘Jacob!’

“I answered,‘Yes!’“The angel said,‘Look, only the striped and spotted goats are mating. I am causing this to happen. I have seen all the wrong things Laban has been doing to you. I am doing this so that you can have all the new baby goats. 13 I am the God who came to you at Bethel, and there you made an altar, poured olive oil on it, and made a promise to me." Genesis 31:11-

Tell me, is not the Angel being called or being equated to Jehovah? Here is help for you and others at your level. "The angel said,‘Jacob!’“I answered,‘Yes!’“The angel said,..I am the GOD who came to you at Bethel, and there you made an altar, poured olive oil on it, and made a promise to me." THAT is DIRECT speech.

Sci---Jesus has nothing to do with Biblical or Rabbinic Judaism.

HughBe--- Are you on narcotics? Are you really totally mad so that you dared to say that Jesus, the Christ, has nothing to do with Biblical Judaism. You are in need of serious medical help.

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

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#75154 Jul 11, 2014
HughBe wrote:
Joel---Why such an obsequious/patronizing comment?

HughBe-- I have no idea what you are talking about.
You're too dense to get the plain meaning of my comment.

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

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#75155 Jul 11, 2014
HughBe wrote:
Joel---Racists and immature people indulge in hatred.

HughBe--- Partly correct but one can hate wickedness and nastiness and not be immature or a racist.
Jesus ignorantly said - "Hate the sin, not the sinner."

Jesus was stuck within the dualisms of life which is why he advocated hating sin and loving the good.

The true poise is to stay detached or if possible to rise above dualisms and view them from the transcendent position or to transform the dualism into the stuff of the transcendent by infusing the dualism with the unifying essence of the transcendence so that the opposites cannot indulge in their usual free play and are as such transformed into the superior stuff of the transcendent.

If the above is too difficult to execute for the ordinary consciousness, then, use the intellectual method of dispassion -

I say hate nothing - not even wickedness and nastiness - but learn to view everything dispassionately or with detachment and try to discover the reason underlying perversions and seek remedies to them or at least see to it that your life is as free of such things as is possible.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#75156 Jul 11, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
My books tell me to love my neighbor as myself
What does your jesus tell you to do?
Why do you hate gays?
HughBe---Once again and please do EXPLAIN the twisted position of yours.

Frijoles--- I do not view it as an insult to be labeled as one.

HughBe--- Explain to me, using your holy books, why you hold such a position given that you are a righteous man.
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Frijoles----My books tell me to love my neighbor as myself

HughBe--- Who is your neighbour based on your books? Are Palestinians your neighbours? Do you love them?

Are Muslims your neighbours? Do you love them?

Frijoles---What does your jesus tell you to do?

HughBe--- My Jesus, the Christ, teaches me that your masters or rabbis teach ABOMINATIONS and the dumb sheep like you and Eric follow blindly.

Frijoles----Why do you hate gays

HUghBe--- To break your enslavement start by rejecting the doctrine that it is ok to tell LIES on all those who are not clansmen.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#75157 Jul 11, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
<quoted text>
You're too dense to get the plain meaning of my comment.
Your misinterpretation of the situation is certainly one that exists in reality and it reflects your high IQ.

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

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#75158 Jul 11, 2014
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>

Is that right? I thought that his partner's puxxy was located in his rear given that I believe that his partner's name is Jim.
Jim?

From where did you get that name?

I recall Former commenting on a few occasions on your tiny, tight pink aperture between black butt cheeks.

The racy comment was not made in jest but is born out of habitual experience with men's rears that he indulges in.

He's lusting after you.

Former and a few others here are gay or bisexual (98 % homosexual, 2 % straight).
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#75159 Jul 11, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE---Jesus ignorantly said - "Hate the sin, not the sinner."

HUghBe--- Please give the book, chapter and verse.

Since: May 14

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#75160 Jul 11, 2014
HughBe wrote:
HughBe----Lesson: True followers of the Christ,Jesus, are far closer to "ancient Judaism" than are the Judahists of today.
scirocco---Total nonsense.
HughBe--- noted.
Sci---Anyone who knows the Shema, Isaiah 43:11, Psalm 146:3, and Hosea 13:4 knows the truth.
HughBe--- What truth is that, Sci?
Your passages next.
Isaiah 43:11 "I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no saviour."
Indeed besides Jehovah, a family name, there is no Saviour and of course Jehovah is the Father and the Son or Angel of the Lord. see below in order to be enlightened.
Psalm 146:3---" Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help."
Do YOU trust your rabbis?
Do YOU trust the prophets?
God called Ezekiel " SON OF MAN, speak to the children of thy people, and say unto them, When I bring the sword upon a land, if the people of the land take a man of their coasts, and set him for their watchman" Ezekiel 33:2
So do YOU trust God's prophets or do you only trust your god-men or rabbis who are clearly not sons of men in your mind.
Hosea 13:4 "Yet I am the Lord thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me."
Now son, do NOT twist the scripture and tell me if the Angel of the Lord is the same as Jehovah. Read and UNDERSTAND "I am the God who came to you at Bethel" and tell me who is the God that is being spoken of? Is it Jehovah?
Genesis 31" The angel of God spoke to me in that dream. The angel said,‘Jacob!’
“I answered,‘Yes!’“The angel said,‘Look, only the striped and spotted goats are mating. I am causing this to happen. I have seen all the wrong things Laban has been doing to you. I am doing this so that you can have all the new baby goats. 13 I am the God who came to you at Bethel, and there you made an altar, poured olive oil on it, and made a promise to me." Genesis 31:11-
Tell me, is not the Angel being called or being equated to Jehovah? Here is help for you and others at your level. "The angel said,‘Jacob!’“I answered,‘Yes!’“The angel said,..I am the GOD who came to you at Bethel, and there you made an altar, poured olive oil on it, and made a promise to me." THAT is DIRECT speech.
Sci---Jesus has nothing to do with Biblical or Rabbinic Judaism.
HughBe--- Are you on narcotics? Are you really totally mad so that you dared to say that Jesus, the Christ, has nothing to do with Biblical Judaism. You are in need of serious medical help.
Since when does Christ or Messiah mean savior?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#75161 Jul 11, 2014
HughBe---Is that right? I thought that his partner's puxxy was located in his rear given that I believe that his partner's name is Jim.

Joel---Jim?From where did you get that name?

HughBe--- Out of my head.

Joel---I recall Former commenting on a few occasions on your tiny, tight pink aperture between black butt cheeks.

HughBe---- I cannot help his insatiable desire for good flesh albeit his desires are perverted.

Joel---The racy comment was not made in jest but is born out of habitual experience with men's rears that he indulges in.

HughBe--- I accept your confirmation.

Joel---He's lusting after you.

HughBe--- I am irresistible to women and gays.

Joel---Former and a few others here are gay or bisexual (98 % homosexual, 2 % straight).

HughBe--- I am a believer.

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

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#75162 Jul 11, 2014
Sorry. It was St Augustine who alluded to the idea of - hate the sin, not the sinner.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#75163 Jul 11, 2014
scirocco wrote:
<quoted text>
Since when does Christ or Messiah mean savior?
Please address the specifics of my post eg. do YOU trust your rabbis?

In your concept of messiah does he save Israel?

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

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#75164 Jul 11, 2014
CLUELESS JESUS

Matthew 5:43-44

“You have heard that it was said,‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you..."

COMMENTS: The same analysis hold true -

Jesus ignorantly preached dualism of loving hateful things which is not possible in the ordinary state and which is most importantly a dualism of hate being turned into love.

Similarly, the reverse dual movement would be to turn love into hate.

So, Jesus taught dualism instead of preaching dispassion/detachment and transcendence leading to transformation of the dualism by infusing the dualism with the higher transcendental movement.

CONCLUSION: Teaching people dispassion, detachment, discrimination, transcendence and transformation of the dualisms by unifying the free play of the opposites into a nondual root mechanism or of converting them into a superior state other than the inferior play of the opposites are superior teachings which Jesus had not a clue about.

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

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#75165 Jul 11, 2014
THE TRUE POISE

The true poise is to stay detached or if possible to rise in consciousness above the dualisms and view them from the transcendent position or to transform the dualisms into the stuff of the transcendent by infusing them with the unifying essence of the transcendence so that the opposites cannot indulge in their usual free play and are as such transformed into the superior stuff of the transcendent.

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

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#75166 Jul 11, 2014
INTELLECTUAL EXERCISE

If the transcendental transformation is too difficult to execute for the ordinary consciousness, then, use the intellectual method of dispassion - which is to consciously and by making use of the reason to stay unaffected by the ups and downs in life or to view the opposites with discrimination without being affected by either of them. It is a kind of an intellectual stepping back from the surface movements of the consciousness and of events in life.

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

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#75167 Jul 11, 2014
BOTTOM LINE:

I say hate nothing - not even wickedness and nastiness - but learn to view everything dispassionately or with detachment and try to discover the reason underlying perversions and seek remedies to them or at least see to it that your life is as free of such things as is possible.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#75168 Jul 11, 2014
Later

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

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#75169 Jul 11, 2014
IS IT POSSIBLE TO LOVE YOUR ENEMIES?

No, unless one learns to forcefully suppress hate and makes an artificial attempt to love the hateful.

Why is this so?

Love and hate are opposites and so where there is one, the other exists.

Jesus advocated loving one's enemies but he himself cursed, threatened and abused those who did not accept him.

It is not possible to love something hateful when love and hate are dualisms that're always jostling for space in a person's life with one hardly holding on to its hard-won position for a short time after which it is displaced by its opposite and the same story repeats itself of one dualism giving way to the other and vice versa.

So, this oscillatory battle ends in stress or in no-gain.

The superior teaching is to cultivate intellectual dispassion or if the inner capacity exists for rising into the transcendental planes and of bringing down the essence of the transcendent poise into the unregenerate lower planes then it transforms the play of the opposites into the stuff of the transcendent movement which is neither of the opposites but their unified state which goes beyond the opposites as explained in a previous post.

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

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#75170 Jul 11, 2014
FIRST SUICIDE

PRAGYA THAPA, a 15 year old girl from Nepal, committed suicide yesterday by consuming poison since she was inconsolable after Brazil's 1-7 defeat to Germany in the world cup football.

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