Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

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#74712 Jun 26, 2014
Is Hugh thighing a 12 year old boy who he picked up in a public loo? LOL

Since: Jan 14

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#74713 Jun 26, 2014
So the messianic juws say they are pursecuted. Whats that all about?

Since: Apr 14

Auckland, New Zealand

#74714 Jun 26, 2014
Shalom
Makes me so angry ... there is no such thing as a Messianic Jew ....
they are just Christians .. pretending to be Jewish !! and their so called
Complete Jewish Bible is a none Jewish biblios ...
Its Triune based belief is in No way Jewish !!
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#74715 Jun 26, 2014
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
I firmly believe that HaShem has chosen for me the place where I am as well as has chosen the place where all of the other Jews live. Isn't it HaShem's decision that you reside in Jamaica?
<quoted text>
Don't see wave offerings. As I admonished you before. There is a difference between the above and wave offerings. But, again, I believe that HaShem has chosen for me the land where I currently reside.
HughBe--- "And THERE you shall BRING your BURNT OFFERINGS, and your SACRIFICES, and your TITHES, and the separation by your hand, and your VOWS and your DONATIONS, and the firstborn of your CATTLE and of your sheep"

Eric---Don't see wave offerings.

HughBe--- I KNOW as you cannot see very well. Now tell me ALL the things that were waved and also the accompanying practices. So for e.g. if you have sacrifices and BURNT offerings tell me about them and WHERE these would be done e.g. in the lands of Dan, Simeon, Gad, Asher, Issachar etc.

EXPLAIN : PLACE which the Lord your God shall CHOOSE FROM ALL your tribes

What is the meaning of PLACE?

What is the meaning of CHOOSE FROM ALL your tribes?

Eric---I firmly believe that HaShem has chosen for me the place where I am as well as has chosen the place where all of the other Jews live. Isn't it HaShem's decision that you reside in Jamaica?

HughBe--- YOU feel and BELIEVE too much. Try using UNDERSTANDING and the Spirit of the Lord.

Eric---As I admonished you before. There is a difference between the above and wave offerings. But, again, I believe that HaShem has chosen for me the land where I currently reside.

HughBe---- Your words underscores your gross deficiency. Here is what you should do. Answer my questions and read with understanding ALL of my words and then you shall emerge out of your darkness.

OUTSTANDING:

EXPLAIN--- YOU SHALL inquire after His dwelling and COME there."

Does this sound like America to that counsellor? explain the words.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#74716 Jun 26, 2014
Frijoles----Another piece of not so trivial trivia. "Chabad" is an abbreviation - an acronym actually.

HughBe--- Thanks dear for that bit of information and I take it that for both you and Eric it is an acronym for Messianic Christian and I say this because that is what HE called my quote from them.

Frijoles---If you ever bothered to delve more deeply into the matter of what it is an acronym for, in all likelihood you would not waste your time with most of your preposterously silly posts on the matter of offerings.
I will leave you to contemplate (pun intended) this.

HughBe---- If you and your man are not total asses you shall be INSTRUCTED on the matter of wave offering TODAY and the KEY is YOU shall understand it.

The BS taught to you by others shall be seen for even what it is, I hope.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#74717 Jun 26, 2014
Eric wrote:
OUTSTANDING:

rabbi---For the wave offering set forth in Lev. 23 there is no place mentioned.

HughBe--- Using Leviticus 23 tell me the place that is mentioned for celebrating the feast of Unleavened Bread, feast of Weeks and the feast of Tabernacles.

Lesson 2

rabbi---And, how could there be a place. The farmers did not live in Jerusalem. How could they make an offering there? Further, at the time that Lev. 23 was pronounced, Jerusalem DID NOT EXIST. Nor did the temple exist

HughBe---Deuteronomy 12

V1" --These are the statutes and ordinances that you SHALL KEEP to perform IN THE LAND which the Lord God of your fathers gives you to possess all the days that you live on the earth."

ANSWER THIS---(WHERE should they keep the ordinances and statutes?)

V5 "to the PLACE which the Lord your God shall CHOOSE FROM ALL your tribes, to set His Name there; YOU SHALL inquire after His dwelling and COME there."

V6 "And THERE you shall BRING your BURNT OFFERINGS, and your SACRIFICES, and your TITHES, and the separation by your hand, and your VOWS and your DONATIONS, and the firstborn of your CATTLE and of your sheep"

ANSWER THIS----Did God know that the farmers did not live in Jerusalem when He made the above commandments. Did He know that "Jerusalem DID NOT EXIST. did He know that the temple did not exist"

V7--"And there you shall EAT BEFORE the Lord, your God, and you shall rejoice in all your endeavors you and your households, as the Lord, your God, has blessed you."

ANSWER THIS-----EXPLAIN, eat BEFORE the Lord. Does it mean in the land of Dan?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#74718 Jun 26, 2014
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
I firmly believe that HaShem has chosen for me the place where I am as well as has chosen the place where all of the other Jews live. Isn't it HaShem's decision that you reside in Jamaica?
<quoted text>
Don't see wave offerings. As I admonished you before. There is a difference between the above and wave offerings. But, again, I believe that HaShem has chosen for me the land where I currently reside.
OUTSTANDING (Take your time and answer ALL questions)

When it speaks of the PRIESTS doing things BEFORE the Lord Almighty does it mean that the priests should do it in America, Jamaica, land of Manesseh, land of Naphtali, land of Reuben or in JERUSALEM and at the TEMPLE?

Where do PRIESTS perform their ROLES?

Are the duties of PRIESTS performed at the TEMPLE in Jerusalem?

Where do you see that the wave offering belongs to anyone save the PRIESTS?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#74719 Jun 26, 2014
later
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#74720 Jun 26, 2014
Correction:

The BS taught to you by others shall be seen by even you for what it is, I hope.
Eric

Aurora, IL

#74721 Jun 26, 2014
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>

OUTSTANDING:
EXPLAIN--- YOU SHALL inquire after His dwelling and COME there."
Does this sound like America to that counsellor? explain the words.
HaShem lives everywhere.

He's in my heart, He's in my soul. He is my breath as I grow old. He's my best friend. He's in my soul.

What! Do you think HaShem has been homeless since 70 CE? Pshaw. He's here, He's there, He's everywhere. So, beware.

Oh, yes. It does sound like America to me.
Eric

Aurora, IL

#74722 Jun 26, 2014
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
OUTSTANDING (Take your time and answer ALL questions)
When it speaks of the PRIESTS doing things BEFORE the Lord Almighty does it mean that the priests should do it in America, Jamaica, land of Manesseh, land of Naphtali, land of Reuben or in JERUSALEM and at the TEMPLE?
Where do PRIESTS perform their ROLES?
Are the duties of PRIESTS performed at the TEMPLE in Jerusalem?
Where do you see that the wave offering belongs to anyone save the PRIESTS?
They should do it wherever they be.
Eric

Aurora, IL

#74723 Jun 26, 2014
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>They should do it wherever they be.
And please remember Hugh. Per your beliefs, I am the Temple. So when I made a wave offering on Shavuot, which you appear to not have done, I did make it at the Temple. And, the wave offering was used for sustenance as G-d planned. What more could be asked?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#74724 Jun 26, 2014
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>They should do it wherever they be.
Eric---They should do it wherever they be.

HughBe--- My dear rabbi, please change your chicken shiT response and ANSWER my questions as well.

OUTSTANDING (Take your time and answer ALL questions)

When it speaks of the PRIESTS doing things BEFORE the Lord Almighty does it mean that the priests should do it in America, Jamaica, land of Manesseh, land of Naphtali, land of Reuben or in JERUSALEM and at the TEMPLE?

Where do PRIESTS perform their ROLES?

Are the duties of PRIESTS performed at the TEMPLE in Jerusalem?

Where do you see that the wave offering belongs to anyone save the PRIESTS?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#74725 Jun 26, 2014
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>And please remember Hugh. Per your beliefs, I am the Temple. So when I made a wave offering on Shavuot, which you appear to not have done, I did make it at the Temple. And, the wave offering was used for sustenance as G-d planned. What more could be asked?
Eric---Per your beliefs, I am the Temple.

HughBe--- Are MY beliefs YOURS? NO. Answer my questions.

yehoshooah adam

“Here again in The Torah”

Since: Nov 13

Denver Colorado 80218

#74726 Jun 26, 2014
-Sprocket- wrote:
So the messianic juws say they are pursecuted. Whats that all about?
rabbee: well because their perfect vanity, does not want to figure out. why G-D is persecuting, their unfaithful butts. and think that the lies, that got them into this mess can get em out. in other words they don't want to know, why they are being persecuted any more than the jews, christians, muslims, or other atheists' do. for they all think their special way of bearing false witness, is going to impress TheG-D WHO said you shall not do that.

and can't see that it is a very poor excuse for lying, just because everyone else in the world is doing it or just because you can. but you cannot lie your way, into The Book of Life, GanEden, or HEAVEN of Heavens. this any more than you, can lie your way out of getting hell from G-D for lying. since that is how we all, get hell in the first place.

and just because some are suffering in hell more than others, does not mean everyone else is not here as deep in it too or it is not your turn in the barrel yet. and don't want to understand, if any of your other books are not in TheTorah. then G-D must see something wrong with them that you refuse to see.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#74727 Jun 26, 2014
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>HaShem lives everywhere.
He's in my heart, He's in my soul. He is my breath as I grow old. He's my best friend. He's in my soul.
What! Do you think HaShem has been homeless since 70 CE? Pshaw. He's here, He's there, He's everywhere. So, beware.
Oh, yes. It does sound like America to me.
First, HaShem does NOT know 70CE and neither do I.

Second, you are being EVASIVE as usual.

Third, cut the material and EXPLAIN and answer questions asked of you.

Start with this ---EXPLAIN--- YOU SHALL inquire after His DWELLING and COME there."

Does this sound like America to that counsellor? EXPLAIN the words.

Are you saying that HaShem did NOT know that He lives EVERYWHERE and that is why He said "YOU SHALL inquire after" My "DWELLING and COME there"?.

What is the meaning of INQUIRE after My DWELLING?

Tell me rabbi, WHERE would the people be COMING from to go go His DWELLING? Would they be COMING from MARS or Jupiter?

If it means that HaShem was where they were or everywhere why would they "inquire after His DWELLING"? Are they LUNATICS? Is HaShen a scatterbrain?

Explain as your argument makes HaShem a scatterbrain.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#74728 Jun 26, 2014
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>They should do it wherever they be.
What is required below is NOT hard so please I beg you rabbi, answer.

rabbi---For the wave offering set forth in Lev. 23 there is no place mentioned.

HughBe--- Using Leviticus 23 tell me the place that is mentioned for celebrating the feast of Unleavened Bread, feast of Weeks and the feast of Tabernacles.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#74729 Jun 26, 2014
HughBe----"These are the statutes and ordinances that you SHALL KEEP to perform IN THE LAND which the Lord God of your fathers gives you to possess all the days that you live on the earth."

It is NOT hard so ANSWER THIS---WHERE should they keep the ordinances and statutes? Is it EVERYWHERE e.g. America?

----------

HughBe---YOU SHALL inquire after His dwelling and COME there."
Does this sound like America to that counsellor?

Eric----Oh, YES. It DOES sound like America to me.

HughBe---- COMIC and a deceiver, Eric.

Apparently you Eric have little or NO regard for the intelligence and INTEGRITY of the Jewish people. It takes a FULL IDIOT to believe what you have said. I stand by those words. Anyhow consult and come again and do EXPLAIN the words as you are yet to do so.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#74730 Jun 26, 2014
Tell me Eric, if God is where you are how do BRING offerings etc to Him?

BRING=take to a place.

Were Burnt offerings to be done in America and in Jamaica and in China and in the land of Dan?

"And THERE you shall BRING your BURNT OFFERINGS, and your SACRIFICES, and your TITHES, and the separation by your hand, and your VOWS and your DONATIONS, and the firstborn of your CATTLE and of your sheep"
Eric

Aurora, IL

#74731 Jun 26, 2014
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Eric---Per your beliefs, I am the Temple.
HughBe--- Are MY beliefs YOURS? NO. Answer my questions.
Hypocrite

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