Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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#71362 Apr 11, 2014
former res wrote:
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1. We have all decided you are gay and you certainly have to admit you are a bit light in the loafers.
When I was 3 or 4, I got a big erection when one of my maids was massaging me with oil and hoping that she'd touch my stiff organ I went on fondling it in full view.

She understood my desire and laughed hard.

I am least interested in sex due to the Yoga and in most ways I have overcome the sex urge.

Anyway.

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#71363 Apr 11, 2014
former res wrote:
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2. You have stated you are at least partly Jewish by blood.
Not partly, fully.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#71364 Apr 11, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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Persons of low intelligence and of poor upbringing talk the way you do.....
And this from the fellow who is always talking about axx-wiping, cleaning of "tools," jerking off, gay sex and so on.(But never straight sex.)

Can't say I'm surprised that hypocrisy and fraud walk hand in hand.

Dishonesty is usually marked by inconsistency.

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#71365 Apr 11, 2014
former res wrote:
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3. You have made disparaging remarks about Jews....correct?
You don't know the Jewish mind.

Jews are the biggest non-conformists.

Jews are the biggest trend-setters in many areas of culture, society, economy and radical thinking.


Jews come in various personality types.

In fact, many ex-Jews are the biggest critics of Judaism, Israel and Jewry.

And many observant Jews are closet atheists.

I know what I am talking about.

If you still believe me about my background and about what I have said about Jews, it's ok.

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#71366 Apr 11, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
MIDDLE EASTERN JEWS are of mixed ancestry due to intermarriage over the ages and so there's no well-defining line and except the bigots no one cares about heritage and all that. The younger generation of Jews who is mostly nonobservant/atheist is least interested in ancestry, religion, dogma and the like. This is a fact.
That is not a 'fact'

Genomic Microsatellites Identify Shared Jewish Ancestry Intermediate Between Middle Eastern and European Populations

We perform a genome-wide population-genetic study of Jewish populations, analyzing 678 autosomal microsatellite loci

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2...

Genome-Wide Diversity in the Levant Reveals Recent Structuring by Culture

This study explores the Levant, a region flanked by the Middle East and Europe, where individual and population relationships are still strongly influenced by religion. We show that religious affiliation had a strong impact on the genomes of the Levantines. In particular, conversion of the region's populations to Islam appears to have introduced major rearrangements in populations' relations through admixture with culturally similar but geographically remote populations, leading to genetic similarities between remarkably distant populations like Jordanians, Moroccans, and Yemenis.Conversely, other populations, like Christians and Druze, became genetically isolated in the new cultural environment. We reconstructed the genetic structure of the Levantines and found that a pre-Islamic expansion Levant was more genetically similar to Europeans than to Middle Easterners.

The tree shows a correlation between religion and the population structures in the Levant: all Jews (Sephardi and Ashkenazi) cluster in one branch; Druze from Mount Lebanon and Druze from Mount Carmel are depicted on a private branch; and Lebanese Christians form a private branch with the Christian populations of Armenia and Cyprus placing the Lebanese Muslims as an outer group. The predominantly Muslim populations of Syrians, Palestinians and Jordanians cluster on branches with other Muslim populations as distant as Morocco and Yemen.

http://www.plosgenetics.org/article/info%3Ado...

No Evidence from Genome-Wide Data of a Khazar Origin for the Ashkenazi Jews

http://digitalcommons.wayne.edu/humbiol_prepr...

Employing a variety of standard techniques for the analysis of populationgenetic structure, we find that Ashkenazi Jews share the greatest genetic ancestry with other Jewish populations, and among non-Jewish populations, with groups from Europe and the Middle East. No particular similarity of Ashkenazi Jews with populations from the Caucasus is evident, particularly with the populations that most closely represent the Khazar region. Thus, analysis of Ashkenazi Jews together with a large sample from the region of the Khazar Khaganate corroborates the earlier results that Ashkenazi Jews derive their ancestry primarily from populations of the Middle East and Europe, that they possess considerable shared ancestry with other Jewish populations, and that there is no indication of a significant genetic contribution either from within or from north of the Caucasus region.

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#71367 Apr 11, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
MIDDLE EASTERN JEWS are of mixed ancestry due to intermarriage over the ages and so there's no well-defining line and except the bigots no one cares about heritage and all that. The younger generation of Jews who is mostly nonobservant/atheist is least interested in ancestry, religion, dogma and the like. This is a fact.
'no one cares". Totally not true. There are plenty of current efforts acknowledging the history. You, as an outsider, have no credibility to issue any statement. I find it curious you trumpet the glories af ancient Sanskrit traditions, and British colonial traditions, but when someone mentions another tradition and heritage, you immediately demean.

A very infantile response.

A more mature and balanced view would be to acknowledge both the positives and negatives of history and culture, and move on.

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#71368 Apr 11, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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You don't know the Jewish mind.
Jews are the biggest non-conformists.
Jews are the biggest trend-setters in many areas of culture, society, economy and radical thinking.
Jews come in various personality types.
In fact, many ex-Jews are the biggest critics of Judaism, Israel and Jewry.
And many observant Jews are closet atheists.
I know what I am talking about.
If you still believe me about my background and about what I have said about Jews, it's ok.
And yet we are on the top of plagiarizers and thieves of intellectual property

as chortled mere page before - dont you even bother to remember what you post?

you are a disgrace to all closet gay people,(and those who rise on top of trains)

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#71369 Apr 11, 2014
I feel like we are all beating up on poor Apu this morning,

but he keeps feeding it

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#71370 Apr 11, 2014
former res wrote:
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3. You have made disparaging remarks about gays.... correct?
Since, you're a bisexual (90% homosexual, 10 % straight), I can understand your support for gays and for gay causes.

Being mostly homosexual, it appears that this is the reason why you chose to remain childless.


I did not say homosexuality is wrong.

I simply said that homosexuality is abnormal for the following 2 reasons:

1) The natural law revolves around the attraction of unlike charges/unlike poles and so it's only obvious that male is made for female with each complementing the other.

2) Homosexuality cannot propagate a species since it has zero procreative capacity.

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#71371 Apr 11, 2014
DEAN RADIN, ANDREW COHEN, AVIRAM ROZIN, THE MOTHER and other EX-JEWS sing the praises of SANSKRIT LITERATURE and openly identify themselves as VEDANTISTS. These ex-Jews have not a kind word to say about Judaism, Israel and Jewry.

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#71372 Apr 11, 2014
ISRAEL is evidently the biggest ROBBER of science and high tech secrets from Western nations. This is 100 % fact.

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#71373 Apr 11, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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If you still believe me about my background and about what I have said about Jews, it's ok.
TYPO

If you still DON'T believe me about my background and about what I have said about Jews, it's ok.

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#71374 Apr 11, 2014
chuckle
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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You don't know the Jewish mind.
Jews are the biggest non-conformists.
Jews are the biggest trend-setters in many areas of culture, society, economy and radical thinking.
Jews come in various personality types.
In fact, many ex-Jews are the biggest critics of Judaism, Israel and Jewry.
And many observant Jews are closet atheists.
I know what I am talking about.
If you still believe me about my background and about what I have said about Jews, it's ok.
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
ISRAEL is evidently the biggest ROBBER of science and high tech secrets from Western nations. This is 100 % fact.

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#71375 Apr 11, 2014
former res wrote:
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So the above means you have much in common with the Jamaican.
HUGH is a far better human being than you.

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Denver, CO

#71376 Apr 11, 2014
Adam 36 wrote:
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There is no devil in the Torah
Stop making things up
rabbee: from out of TheTorah, in the little book of Parashas Bereeeshees. "(now the serpent was cunning beyond any beast of the field that HaShem G-D had made.)"

so joel i guess you'll have to be, content with being a lesser lying critter. so what were you saying, as one of the lesser not so subtle beast of the fields?

so how much is your bearing false witness worth, calling TheG-D of Only TheTorah the liar that you actually are? so who is, making stuff up now joel?

gee i thought everybody knew this story, about how the most subtle lying devil deceived their grandmother, with help from all you other subtle talking critters of the fields.

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#71377 Apr 11, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
DEAN RADIN, ANDREW COHEN, AVIRAM ROZIN, THE MOTHER and other EX-JEWS sing the praises of SANSKRIT LITERATURE and openly identify themselves as VEDANTISTS. These ex-Jews have not a kind word to say about Judaism, Israel and Jewry.
and that has to do with the price of oranges, why?

Apu - dont you get it?

- sometimes we actually READ your posts (mainly out of amusement). Which is why we notice your contradictions and logical fallacies.

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#71378 Apr 11, 2014
HUGH,

Where are you?

Please come online.

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#71379 Apr 11, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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HUGH is a far better human being than you.
what are your attributes of "better"?

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#71380 Apr 11, 2014
HUGH,

You've still to reveal your sex secrets to me. Mon.

(smiles)

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#71381 Apr 11, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
ISRAEL is evidently the biggest ROBBER of science and high tech secrets from Western nations. This is 100 % fact.
Oy vey

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