Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Eric

Montgomery, IL

#62770 Nov 16, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Stop the dodging and answer or respond by addressing the matter.
Explain --"Never equate kindness with being evil"
Is breaking God's laws EVIL or kindness, rabbi?
Like always, you have things backasswards. It is not evil to show kindness. It is what your messiah and god taught.
Eric

Montgomery, IL

#62771 Nov 16, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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You and your fellow sheep meaning Judahites have other "gods" before your Maker.
Since you are DISHONEST and simpleminded let me explain this FACT for you.
That word gods means RULERS. The RULES of the rabbis take PRIORITY over the plain commandments of God Almighty.
The matter of Homosexuality is one example.
You need to repent and stop violating the commandments of God.
I go now as you are a WASTE, of time.
Judging again I see. You need to worry about your own life and not others. That is what your messiah and god said.

Don't let the door hit you in the backasswards as you leave.

“Act Interdimensional ly”

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#62772 Nov 16, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Did you ever read Shmuely Boteach's new book on Jesus?
His idea is that Jews should reclaim the historical Jesus as one of our own...
Actually, I'm kind of fond of the notion that we smoked him like it weren't no thing.

Jews need a more "gangsta" image.

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#62773 Nov 17, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Do not do Jesus a favour.
You dont own the idea. It isnt even your historical or cultural heritage. You should consider asking us for permission for even mentioning him.

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#62774 Nov 17, 2013
Rick Moss wrote:
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Actually, I'm kind of fond of the notion that we smoked him like it weren't no thing.
Jews need a more "gangsta" image.
Yeah but reclaiming him not only sets the record straight. It also poses a direct threat to the self-concept and identity of some of the more lunatic of people who call themselves Christians. That is MUCH more fun to watch, IMO.

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#62775 Nov 17, 2013
Eric wrote:
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Like always, you have things backasswards. It is not evil to show kindness. It is what your messiah and god taught.
Which brings us back to what started Hughbes tantrum in the first place. Someone (Jimmy)raised the topic of homosexuality (again). Rather than judge, I chose kindness, and unbelievably, I was attacked for that.

The fact that personally, I dont believe in the negative interpretations regarding the homosexual act is moot and besides the point. The point is which comes first in the world of human relations - kindness or judgement.

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#62776 Nov 17, 2013
FROM a few days ago

yehoshooah adam wrote:
rabbee: so according to you, G-D is the liar. since G-D always claimed that homosexuality, is considered a most repugnant and grotesque abnormality to THEM. what is your ulterior motive, for hating G-D and lusting for the lies of halooseefer?

Frijoles wrote:
MY ulterior motive is to be a nice person. Sorry if that offends anyone.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#62778 Nov 17, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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I don't need yogic powers to detect if someone is unstable.
You don't need yogic powers to detect the insanity in Rabbee.

Even a kid would know that he's mentally ill after looking at him or after reading his posts.

What I said was this:

If you have the yogic sensitivity, you can perceive the unbalanced/adverse forces radiating from his pic.

Take care, don't look too closely and don't interact with him often unless you have the higher force to protect you.

This means that one can actually "see" the unbalanced forces radiating from Rabbee's pic only through the yogic vision and besides one would need the yogic force to either block or to dissolve the adverse force coming from Rabbee's pic and to do this one would need the yogic power.

So, Mon, take care.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#62779 Nov 17, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
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I have been out of my body a few times, and twice for three and a half days. and I was not The-ONE, in control of it but the presence of another very powerful spirit causing it.

You just can't leave your body, without permission of a much higher power.
Yeah, it's possible considering the advanced stage of possession that has gripped you.

The demonic force that has possessed you could have engineered an OBE in your case.

OBE can be done via a willed process...

The fluid conscious-energy spread out in the body first gathers in the brain and then it eases out of the body through a micro-aperture that opens at this stage and emerges outside the body while the conscious-energy field of the brain-body system remains within to keep the organ systems functional albeit feebly. Once outside the body, a thin shiny ray of force connects the discarnate conscious-energy with the conscious-energy of the body.

In this disembodied state, one can move any where in the physical realm or one can open up in the 8th plane of conscious-energy (or in still higher planes of conscious-energy that exceed the 8th) that lie in spatio-temporal dimensions above the head and in this poise one can have fine experiences there and besides one can also cause the power of any of the higher planes to descend into the body but it's an extremely difficult process that only the advanced yogis (numbering just a handful in the whole of human history) can engineer....

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#62780 Nov 17, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Yeah but reclaiming him not only sets the record straight. It also poses a direct threat to the self-concept and identity of some of the more lunatic of people who call themselves Christians. That is MUCH more fun to watch, IMO.
For 2,000 years they've been slaughtering us in that mythical momser's name.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#62781 Nov 17, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: what do you mean by, Adam is never the only virgin birth?
Genesis that covers cosmology including the Adam/Eve story and the flood is fiction.

It is not even allegory.

It's bad fiction.

Whereas the story of Abraham and Sarah is immoral and sets a bad example that if taken too seriously can turn a morally sound person into a debased sub-human type.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#62782 Nov 17, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: well that's only because, there is no story. of the virgin giving birth, to the Buddha in the Torah.
Like Jesus, Buddha, too, was supposedly born to a virgin.

Of course, these are mere stories.

Before the Buddhist Canon, Torah comes across as a barbaric book invented by a barbarian and aimed at barbarians.

Buddha's teachings are limited but very refined and have a global perspective.

By the time, Jesus was born, Buddhist missionaries had reached the far Middle East and so it is a distinct possibility that Jesus was influenced by Buddhist thought in his childhood given the fact that many of his key teachings are direct lift-offs from Buddhist texts.

But, Jesus' compassion was conditional - follow me or be cursed.

However, Jesus' key teachings (despite being conditional and copied from Eastern mysticism) are nevertheless a great improvement over the teachings of Abraham, Moses, Elijah and other patriarchs for obvious reasons.

Buddha stands far above Jesus, Abraham, Moses, Elijah and the others.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#62783 Nov 17, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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The answer is no.

Snake oils are available from your former masters or Frijoles.

I sell the oils listed below and more:

1. Oil of give me sense

2. Oil of maturity

3. Oil of removal of stupidity.
LOL.

Anyway, take care, and good luck to you and to your family.
Eric

Montgomery, IL

#62784 Nov 17, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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The point is which comes first in the world of human relations - kindness or judgement.
According to his messiah and god, judgment is not supposed to come at all.
Eric

Montgomery, IL

#62785 Nov 17, 2013
Rick Moss wrote:
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For 2,000 years they've been slaughtering us in that mythical momser's name.
Do we have to use the "m" word?

“Act Interdimensional ly”

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#62786 Nov 17, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>Do we have to use the "m" word?
Oh, I think it's appropriate.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#62787 Nov 17, 2013
Sam Berns and progeria.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#62788 Nov 17, 2013
Hugh Mogambo and snake oil.

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#62789 Nov 17, 2013
Rick Moss wrote:
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For 2,000 years they've been slaughtering us in that mythical momser's name.
Believe me, I am aware of that. However, I think, at least for myself, its time to move on. The Christians are not a threat to us in anyway anymore. Radical Islam has moved into that role. And like I said, the best type of revenge is the truth anyhow. Lets consider him a teacher and own him.

Interestingly and not surprisingly, when Boteach's book came out, he was attacked in the press by other orthodox including some modern orthodox leaders, who also couldnt get past history and stereotypes long enough to understand Boteach's idea.

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#62790 Nov 17, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>According to his messiah and god, judgment is not supposed to come at all.
I know, as I said to Yoda a while back, the Christian teaching on the subject of homosexuality is to "turn the other cheek". Oops.

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