Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

There are 72039 comments on the Newsday story from Jun 21, 2008, titled Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel. In it, Newsday reports that:

Safety pins and screws are still lodged in 15-year-old Ami Ortiz's body three months after he opened a booby-trapped gift basket sent to his family.

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rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#46585 Jan 4, 2013
you cannot impress me, with your not being here in This Story of Physical Creation.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#46586 Jan 4, 2013
i have survived the certain death, of thousands and thousands of third and fourth crucifixions. as i shall, and have survived your's also. i shall be survived, all you and your grandmother betrayals. The Captain, of the flying Adam Dutchman shall return. in search of the one true to Love me. TheOne and Her, grandchildren who shall never betray me, for the sake of the more subtle than any-other beast of the fields. for all on earth today, have already given your souls to that same old devil again.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#46587 Jan 4, 2013
and still you do not, know who i am. here in the exact, same precise story twice again. though this is all written in TheTorahScroll, you all still do not recognize me here in IT again, again and again...
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#46588 Jan 4, 2013
Torah, Torah, Torah, to all of you not here in it again. and you all still have no peace, in all the promises of idolatry.
former res

Broomall, PA

#46589 Jan 5, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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Do you have a hard time focusing?
I am talking about okc.
Numerous witnesses not just one, court workers and attorneys reported the bomb squad being there.
I know what you're talking about.

I'm trying to determine how widespread your conspiracy theories are?

Please share any thoughts you have on building 7.

Do you have questions on that one as well?
former res

Broomall, PA

#46590 Jan 5, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Its not a faith, its a religion based on behavioral practices...
"religion based on behavioral practices?"

Sounds like the tail wagging the dog?

Wouldn't the faith/religion have to come first?

Otherwise why the specifice behavior/practice?
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#46591 Jan 5, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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Public schooling should be eliminated, that would be one hell of a tax break, communities can find better cost effective ways to educate children.
rabbee: actually the most wastefull and inefficient government institution is the irs. it consumes from, a quarter to a third of the budget just collecting taxes. and is the most wastefull, of all government programs.

as the sales tax system, is the most efficient and inexpensive form of collecting taxes.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#46592 Jan 5, 2013
Liam R wrote:
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Not if the goal is to have most children to grow up to be educated adults. Private education is great, for those that can afford it, but private schools have the luxury of picking and choosing which students they will let in and which they will exclude. My son is "special needs". Most private schools would not even consider letting him in, it is not "cost effective" for them.
Then too, there is the matter of accountability. Public schools are (theoretically, at least) required to be accountable to the public, to show that they are providing a proper education and not merely brainwashing the kids into one ideology or another. Obviously, this means that public school education will have some folks rather P.O.ed that the school is not forcing thier favored ideology down little Jonnie's throat. But hey, that's what parents are for...
rabbee: one way or another in public schools, your going to be indoctrinated. they are only being taught, your normal standardized way of lying today.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#46593 Jan 5, 2013
JOEL wrote:
QUESTION:
How are babies made?
(smiles)
rabbee: not the way, you have been indoctrinated to think.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#46594 Jan 5, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Everybody has a gift in this life.
rabbee:++,+-,-+, pick one.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#46595 Jan 5, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Excellent Op-Ed by a former soldier - gun rights believer on how/why he changed his mind about the issue
http://www.salon.com/2012/12/28/iraq_vet_newt...
Iraq vet: Newtown changed my mind on gun control
I'm a hunter and a vet, and I revere the Second Amendment. But I used bankrupt logic: It's time for gun control
By Liam Madden
".......But my reverence is irrelevant. The Second Amendment stopped giving the insurrectionists among us a chance as soon as military technology advanced beyond the rifle. No modern Shays’ Rebellion is viable, militarily speaking, unless the Second Amendment is read to protect an individual’s right to bear surface-to-air missiles, personally owned Abrams tanks and state-sanctioned depleted uranium artillery. Who in their right mind would want to live in a place that gave access to these things to any person, no matter how law abiding or responsible?..."
rabbee: do the people have the right, to have and bear the same kind of arms. as their government, gone or going mad. how much you want to be, that the syrian rebel wished they had the right to bear, abrams tanks, and surface to air missles?
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#46596 Jan 5, 2013
JOEL wrote:
JESUS WAS ONLY PARTIALLY INFORMED ABOUT THE DAMAGE CAUSED BY DIVORCE:
1) Jesus considered divorce a perversion ("adultery") from a moral perspective but evidently he knew nothing about the bio-psychic damage caused to the bio-psychic force fields of the divorced couple especially the harm caused to the woman on account of her delicate bio-psychic nature.
2) Jesus was clueless about the bio-psychic ill-effects in progeny born to re-married divorcees.
3) Muhammad saw everything from a superficial socio-economic viewpoint which is why he permitted re-marriage of divorced women.
Oh, these ignorant prophets!
rabbee: the only thing divorce proves, is that your brains were somewhere else. when you should not of gotten allegedly married in the first place. for if it were a true marriage, it should never end with divorce. if you end up divorced, it means you both screwed up in your choice of mates.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#46598 Jan 5, 2013
JOEL wrote:
A WARNING ABOUT THIS SNAKE CALLED HUGH:
HUGH cannot be trusted since hidden deep in his heart and in his tush is just one agenda - propaganda of Jesus and conversion of non-Christians to Christianity.
On one occasion, Hugh admitted to Frijoles, I think it was to Frijoles, that he desires to convert the whole world to Christianity.
Hugh is a fanatic and an irrational fool and intellectually he's no match for Frijoles.
Don't get deceived by Hugh's "gentle", "loving" and "patient" ways which are a cleverly devised facade to camouflage his true intentions.
Joel---deep in his heart and in his tush is just one agenda - propaganda of Jesus and conversion of non-Christians to Christianity.

HughBe---Hail sweet Joel, I find your words absolutely hilarious. I don't have much time but let me confirm your words that "deep in his(MY) heart..is just one agenda .. conversion of non-Christians to Christianity."

In fact it is not only DEEP but it is from the crown of my head to the sole of my feet.

Joel--Don't get deceived by Hugh's "gentle", "loving" and "patient" ways which are a cleverly devised facade to CAMOUFLAGE his true intentions

HughBe---Your comments including "hidden" and "camouflage his true intentions" are really the construct of a very young person and more so one who is a teenager.

Having said that left me confirm my CAMOUFLAGE by using YOUR own words taken from this very post "On one occasion, Hugh admitted to Frijoles, I think it was to Frijoles, that he desires to convert the whole world to Christianity."

What a CAMOUFLAGE.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#46599 Jan 5, 2013
former res wrote:
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"religion based on behavioral practices?"
Sounds like the tail wagging the dog?
Wouldn't the faith/religion have to come first?
Otherwise why the specifice behavior/practice?
Hail, did you enjoy the holidays?
Voluntarist

United States

#46600 Jan 5, 2013
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
I know what you're talking about.
I'm trying to determine how widespread your conspiracy theories are?
Please share any thoughts you have on building 7.
Do you have questions on that one as well?
That all depends on whether you will concede that the bomb squad was at okc before the bomb went off, seems like we cant get past the first fact without you derailing the convrsation because you seem to have some point to make about building 7.
Voluntarist

United States

#46601 Jan 5, 2013
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: actually the most wastefull and inefficient government institution is the irs. it consumes from, a quarter to a third of the budget just collecting taxes. and is the most wastefull, of all government programs.
as the sales tax system, is the most efficient and inexpensive form of collecting taxes.
The irs is the collection agency for the federal reserve, wasteful on purpose.
Voluntarist

United States

#46602 Jan 5, 2013
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: do the people have the right, to have and bear the same kind of arms. as their government, gone or going mad. how much you want to be, that the syrian rebel wished they had the right to bear, abrams tanks, and surface to air missles?
Rights arent given by governments they are there to secure rights, so yes government has no business limiting ownership of arms.

Its amazing how collectivists always try to put limits on rights but when it comes to governmental power they claim that is limitless.
Gtown71

United States

#46604 Jan 5, 2013
JOEL wrote:
PETTY BEING & LOWLY PROPHETS:
Muhammad, Jesus, Moses, YHVH, El, Allah and other petty beings and prophets were clueless about the true soul in the human being and they mistook the life force for the true soul.
I just bought a book, "PROFF OF HEAVEN ". I've not read it yet, but you may or may not find it interesting.

It talks about what happened to a doctor one day.

He talks about the condition his brain was in, with medicsl proff to back it up.
Maybe you can check it out?
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#46605 Jan 5, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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The irs is the collection agency for the federal reserve, wasteful on purpose.
rabbee: they collect the revenue for the federal government to operate. they do not directly work, for the federal reserve. the federal reserve, is not actually part of the federal government.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#46606 Jan 5, 2013
former res wrote:
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"religion based on behavioral practices?"
Sounds like the tail wagging the dog?
Wouldn't the faith/religion have to come first?
Otherwise why the specifice behavior/practice?
a. I wouldnt underestimate the importance of rote (i.e. habitual) behavior over conscious (i.e. faith inspired) effort.

b. The poster was noting that Jews in his town seemed to be in a world apart from him. What he was probably reacting to was the different behaviors (i.e. modes of dress, sociality, eating etc etc) more so than belief because I am assuming he never really got into a deep conversation with any of them regarding their beliefs.

c. I know we have discussed this topic many times before and I agree that faith is the cornerstone, however (and as I have probably said a few times before) most forms of Judaism - emphasize ritual and behavior more so non Catholic forms of Christianity, and as a result the word "faith" doesnt represent the totality or the essence of the practice - therefore a lot of Jews (maybe not all) when they hear the word "faith" they understand that to be how Christians understand Jews, but not how Jews understand Jews.

d. From a pure logic point of view you of course have a valid point, with the caveats above.

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