Sleeping-in-car zones proposal is cal...

Sleeping-in-car zones proposal is called premature

There are 62 comments on the Long Beach Press-Telegram story from Aug 30, 2009, titled Sleeping-in-car zones proposal is called premature. In it, Long Beach Press-Telegram reports that:

City Councilman Dee Andrews' proposal to create areas where "economic refugees" can legally sleep in their cars may be the most ambitious proposal the 6th District representative has presented in his two years in office.

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Robert J G Jackson Sr

Huntington Beach, CA

#2 Aug 31, 2009
The real question is who would be paying for Coucilmember Andrew's vision? To have these vehicles parked in an area that is kept safe, to have restrooms and other services available to them is great. But someone has to pick up the check for all of it. Then there is the matter of whether these vehicles would be allowed to stay parked in such a facility, or whether they would have to depart during the day. As the article states, a lot of questions to be answered.

Los Angeles, CA

#3 Aug 31, 2009
a lot of questions for will not many will be against it and the ones that use it will abuse the system just about like everything else they have abused,,,they need to use the homeless places that are set up for them already
tom trayner

Long Beach, CA

#4 Aug 31, 2009
Long Beach has made it clear that we will accept all of the degrading actions that our City and State leaders choose to use to devalue our City and our neighbordhoods.

I think we should drop all standards of expecting behavior all at once instead of a little each year. Why prolong the misery with a steady decline in decency and civility? Let's take the pain all at once.

There is no room for pride in Community or compassion for hard working citizens and their families in LowenthalLand.
Oncle Willie

Long Beach, CA

#5 Aug 31, 2009
I think Dee has a great idea. The key word is idea. He is the only councilmember squarely facing the problems for this city. The others are lockstep with their socialist brothers and sisters in Sacramento. Not one idea, let alone a good idea, is coming out of this council. I guess that is what happens when you are owned by the public service unions.
John Hall

Makati, Philippines

#6 Aug 31, 2009
Not in my neighborhood

Long Beach, CA

#7 Aug 31, 2009
just another area in long beach that will attract those who don't really need the help...let focus on the budget and making sure the employees of this city don't have to be forced to use Dee's proposed "safe" area...

Surfside, CA

#8 Aug 31, 2009
Since when has sleeping in cars been illegal? There is a man living in his car on my street for aprox 10 years. He uses the showers in the apartments and condo pool areas throught the neighborhood. Neighbors have called the police and nothing has happend. And this is in Belmont Heights. His car never moves except for street sweeping days and then is back infront of the same house. The house he parks in front of is an elderly person who does not walk or drive and never leaves the house so he isnt going to do anything about his car bound neighbor. My concern is that there is no way to know if this man is a danger. He has no address and his name is unknown. What if he is a sex offender?

San Fernando, CA

#9 Aug 31, 2009
I've heard that cocaine and meth actually cause brain damage. It's not like smoking, where you may or may not get cancer. It's more direct, like putting your hand to a flame, it will get burned no matter what your genetic predisposition. Repeated use causes permanent brain damage, leading to memory and learning problems.
Cocaine and meth, one scientist has said, is like "setting a forest fire in your brain." Maybe this will answer a few questions regarding the WHY of this proposal.
It was your neighborhood

Torrance, CA

#10 Aug 31, 2009
Sleeping in a big truck in the Granada parking lot must be OK. guy even has a dog. Been staying there for years.
yo ho

Irvine, CA

#12 Aug 31, 2009
There are people doing it around the Bixby Park area, and it sounds like people are doing it every where, so why not make a permitted area?
lets go

San Fernando, CA

#13 Aug 31, 2009
Tusitala wrote:
Just make sure it's near a Starbucks.
Why can't the Mayor work out tax incentives with McDonald's to only hire homeless people, and allow zoning to put some McTents in the parking lot, to house their employees? China has "work campuses" that do about the same thing.
What kind of communists are we, anyway? We need to be taking more responsibility for the bad choices of other people. Let's DO this!!

San Fernando, CA

#14 Aug 31, 2009
Let's come up with a couple of reasons why Dee might be a complete moron:

1) To Dee: You don't make a proposal until you get a consensus, and get a majority of community leaders on your side, before spewing it to the press. That's politics 101, you moron.

2) The 800 pound gorilla in the room, which Dee chose not to bring up, is the fact that this is essentially a sanctuary city. We have TWO Home Depots, one with what amounts to a free "learning annex for illegals," that fully (and illegally) supports the illegal alien lifestyle. Many are fresh from the river, have no place to reside besides the garage of a relative, or... their car. Since they're used to living in squalor, and since living piled on top of other family members could serve as a burden to the host family, it stands to reason that many illegals would park their pickup trucks with camper shells at various, Dee Approved Locations, thereby supporting, and encouraging a problem that is destroying this city in general, and putting employment pressure on blacks in particular. The only reason blacks haven't been completely keelhauled by now is that illegals cannot yet follow them into government jobs. Obama will "fix" that problem in the near future, then blacks will REALLY be in deep shidt getting a job.

In my view, Dee is actually trying to make plans to further economically undermine his own constituency.

I don't believe it's Dee's way of actualizing his self-hatred, or contempt for his own supposed racial interests. I think it's much simpler than that:

I believe he's simply stupid, and in over his head, as are the people who thought it was a bright idea to vote for him as a representative of his district.

United States

#15 Aug 31, 2009
All of downtown and Lincoln Park is already a homeless refugee camp. What more does Mr Dee want? The arena parking lot has groups of homeless doing drugs and yelling at all hours of the night. Isn't that enough? I guess not. lol

And the 6th district has never been known for intelligent people. They get about 10% voter turnout and give us gifts like Laura Richardson, And now Dee the former crack head dealer Andrews. No wonder Long Beach is such a joke when you travel to other cities. Say your from Long Beach when you're in San Francisco and people say they feel sorry for you. lol

Irvine, CA

#16 Aug 31, 2009
the police are scary and the homeless are scary. throw some gangangers in there and its no wonder folks are moving out of california..

Hesperia, CA

#18 Aug 31, 2009
Dee is an idiot!

Maybe his kids need to see a transient pooping in their front yard.

Hesperia, CA

#19 Aug 31, 2009
and smoking meth, doing heroin.,.,it all goes with transient activity.

Fullerton, CA

#20 Aug 31, 2009
beachbob wrote:
the police are scary and the homeless are scary. throw some gangangers in there and its no wonder folks are moving out of california..
So, no police, homeless and gangbangers outside of California? Nice premise!

Long Beach, CA

#21 Aug 31, 2009
I am aprehensive because this proposal would be a magnet for the homeless from outside the area. The City would need to provide restrooms with bathing facilities, security to prevent further sales of illegal drugs.
Just a lot things come to mind. Given the current state of the City Budget, there just are not the funds to provide the required services plus increased Police Patrol to enforce the time limitations. Not A good idea in my opinion.
Oncle Willie

Long Beach, CA

#22 Aug 31, 2009
What is kind of ironic is that city hall park (formerly Lincoln Park) is about to become a dog park. That is one way to clear out the human trash that litters the park.
Laurence Goodhue

Oceanside, CA

#23 Aug 31, 2009
Even if the ill conceived idea suffers a quick death-as well it should,unfortunately much damage
has already been done.


Working from a premise that each of the lower 48 states has at least 5000 homeless people living in
their vehicles(and that is a low-for the average);figuring that but 10% of those are now on
their way-having decided to head here when they
first heard the news(keep in mind many probably are
not noted for making good choices)...we can reasonably expect an additional 2500-3000 people
arriving in our neighborhood streets within the
next fortnight.

Thank you Dee Andrews.Please sir,good back to

Laurence B. Goodhue
Long Beach

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