Will we ever be told the motive?

Will we ever be told the motive?

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CTM

United States

#1 Jan 10, 2013
With the issues of school safety, gun laws, mental health and prescription drugs in the spotlight, when will the motive be revealed? That would seem to be the best grounds to prevent a similar tragedy.
NOTthechildren

Pottstown, PA

#2 Jan 10, 2013
No we will never get the true motive or facts because the mass media and politicos want to drive their agendas with the facts currently at hand only.
no more drugs

Edmonton, Canada

#3 Jan 10, 2013
CTM,

In reading your post, it dawned on me!

I saw that the reason that psychotrpic drugs have not been addressed/discussed...

Its because the mind set of the genral populaton has been taught to wait for answers from the powers that be, instead of figuring things out for ourselves.

It seems like we have been programmed to not think for ourselves.

Many of us are patiently waiting to be schmoozed over and distracted where we depend on, and believe authoriies/government/media lip service.

Your question is typical. Will we be told?

It is beyond any common sense that people patiently wait for lip service.

Back in the day, we had no choice and had to rely on the media to tell us whatever. We didnt have the resources to do our own researching and thinking.

Today, we have the resources yet we seem to have given up our better logic so to continue depending on outside resources to fill us in.

It is beyond belief that so many people havent done the math themselves.

It is quite simple.

We can break the event down and form an equation so to get the answer all on our own.

Here is how the equation would be written out.

We keep having these type of massacres where many people die by guns cars, bombs etc) We wat to know why is it happening?

At the hands of someone who has been on or stops taking psychotropic drugs, this person is going out and as many as they can, then usually turns the gun or explosive on himself.

The people then go into morning, and then wait to be distracted by the powers that be, to give us whatever answer works best in their favor.

Here is the break down of the equation as we know it..

These types of massacres started about 4 decdes ago.The killers are all either taking, or withdrawing from psychtropic drugs.

We know that guns dont impair the brain.They have been around forever.

Mental illness has been around forever.

We know for a fact, that psychotropic drugs have a printed insert inside each box, that clearly warn, this type of event (homicidal and suicidal ideation) can be induced by taking/withdrawing from these types of drugs.

So now that we have written out the logic as we know it, we now have to ask ourselves what has changed in the last 4 decdaes?

Guns/bombs havnt changed.

Mental illness hasnt changed.

But mind altering drugs that carry a warning stating this event can be an adverse side affect.

So if we do the math, we already know the answer.

I can only guess that these drugs have become part of so many households, that it is to much to bare, to believe a househol staple, is the root.

I choose to not live like an ostrich. Waiting for lies, means waiting for the next horrific event.

I can only spread the word about thses drugs and implore people to research them on their own. The answer will make the world a safer place.

Guns are like gasoline, and the drugs are like the matches.

We have allowed ourselves to be distracted by the accelerant, and ignore that it is the matches that light the fire. Lets make a difference and help the world be better, safer place. Stop the drugs.

Since: Oct 11

United States

#4 Jan 10, 2013
There is a lot of the math we can't do ourselves in this tragedy. There has been no real release of info, lots of hype and possibilities and opinions, but nothing real yet as to why. Those in charge, the politicians that tell the police what to do, apparently haven't figured out a story they think we will believe. The politicians in this town have a history of lying, even to the police, to push through their agenda no matter who or what is damaged or hurt.
no more drugs

Edmonton, Canada

#5 Jan 10, 2013
But CTM, what info are you waiting to be released...

His family and neighbors said the shooter had aspergers.

Do you believe that?

Have you researched Asperger's to find out if this type of behavior is NOT consistant with that disorder?

His family and neighbors (on the same day of the shooting,)said he was on medication.

Do you believe that?

Have you researched black box warnings of psychtropic drugs?

If you have done this research, do you believe that these pils can have an adverse side effect that can cause suicidal and homicidal ideation? when taking, or withdrawing from them?

Respectfully, if so, what more information do we need, so to do the math?

Is waiting to be told answers(whatever the government wants us to believe) a way to avoid the reality that these drugs are causing this behavior which already stated on the box of the pils...which clearly poses a daily threat to each and everyone of us, and our children...?

Again, why are we waiting to be told, when we already have the most logical answer.
CTM

United States

#6 Jan 10, 2013
There is no doctor named, no prescription found, no shrink that gave a diagnosis of asbergers. There is way to much talk about this and about getting rid of guns. Access to the computer history I don't have and I'm sure a lot of politicians and their friends are happy about that and will be happy to keep it under wraps. So until what Adam wrote about why he chose to do this is released, we really know nothing except that this is being used for certain political grandstanding. This should point out just how selfish and greedy these politicians are.
no more drugs

Edmonton, Canada

#7 Jan 10, 2013
Well so based on your reply, it sounds like you dont believe he was on meds.....

On account that it appears you dont believe witness accounts that he was on prescribed meds (or was withdrawing) explains why you are waiting for answers..

Sadly you may wait forever if you think a doctor will be coming forth, or his med records.. it is way too political for a doctor to speak (Like at M.J's doctor..) they are all at risk especially in a case like this.

You can be guaranteed that they will be protected by the powers that be, and as far as what was on his hard drive.. that seems predictable as well..
and it might give a timeline as to how long he had been suffering from the adverse side affcts rom the prescribed drugs..

I wouldnt wait too long for that either.

No where does it state that any law enforcement or govt body, needs to share "the investigation" with anyone..

Hearing the neighbor and the family acounts that he was on meds was predictable too.. seemingly his behavior was getting worse, and sadly prescibed mds are always the solution.. it would be a nobrainer to suspect that he had been on these type of meds likely his entire life...

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CTM

United States

#8 Jan 10, 2013
I don't know if he was on meds, but doubt it. Some of the local interviews were with the bar owners where the mother went drinking. Since they know her son, could it be she brought him drinking with her? They are also very tied into the local politics, that bar is well within 500 feet of a middle school. They also happen to be related to the crooks that Blumenthal did big, illegal favors for. I'm not jumping to any conclusions but am asking a lot of questions that nobody seems to want answered.
Remeron

Saint Petersburg, FL

#9 Jan 10, 2013
How do I explain to someone that never lived the psychiatric drug nightmare ?

1. There is nothing wrong with me besides being a little trusting and kinda stupid for falling for the seratonin marketing scam in the late 1990s and taking those pills.

2. Suicide/ homicide from psych meds:

Medication induced suicidal thoughts combined with akathisia.

Akathisia is a neurologically driven agitation ranging from mild leg tapping, feeling "caffeinated" to severe panic, an extreme manic state and hyper-sensitivity of the nervous system...

Search: Suicide homicide and akathisia.

http://www.google.com/search...
Remeron

Saint Petersburg, FL

#10 Jan 10, 2013
Don't expect CNN the pharma ad channel to say one word about psych drugs in this story.

Ask your doctor...
ADAMLANZAVACCINE VICTIM

Winnipeg, Canada

#11 Jan 10, 2013
Adam was damaged by vaccines and his brain damage made it impossible for him to truly understand life, society, and fitting in. He was frustrated, and decided to go out in the american way, with a gun in his hand. That would make him a hero. The founding fathers who wrote the 2nd amendment would be proud right?
NOTthechildren

Pottstown, PA

#12 Jan 10, 2013
Don't judge a book by the cover they say but yet I look a picture of this guy Adam Lanza(drivers license I think?) I see a stare, eye sockets, jaw bone-the body of a crack head, anorexic and/or medicated individual.

http://rollingout.com/culture/adam-lanza-phot...

Will we ever see motivations, causes or an actual detailed account of what happend?
Remeron

Saint Petersburg, FL

#13 Jan 10, 2013
NOTthechildren wrote:
Don't judge a book by the cover they say but yet I look a picture of this guy Adam Lanza(drivers license I think?) I see a stare, eye sockets, jaw bone-the body of a crack head, anorexic and/or medicated individual.
http://rollingout.com/culture/adam-lanza-phot...
Will we ever see motivations, causes or an actual detailed account of what happend?
I clicked the link and then Ctrl+F to open find and look for the words medication and drug real fast. Absent of course.

Was he on drugs "medication" ?
ADAMLANZAVACCINE VICTIM

Winnipeg, Canada

#14 Jan 10, 2013
NOTthechildren wrote:
Don't judge a book by the cover they say but yet I look a picture of this guy Adam Lanza(drivers license I think?) I see a stare, eye sockets, jaw bone-the body of a crack head, anorexic and/or medicated individual.
http://rollingout.com/culture/adam-lanza-phot...
Will we ever see motivations, causes or an actual detailed account of what happend?
Anorexia is a known side effect of a number of vaccines. Autistic sufferers also eat poorly and have digestive problems.
no more drugs

Edmonton, Canada

#15 Jan 10, 2013
Why dont you believe he was on meds? close people to them,(neighbors and babysitter now adult) said he was..

It has also been said by many that he had Aspergers...

Im not sure why you dont believe he was taking prescription meds. It was said just a few hours after he went on the killing spree. Since then everyone has become tight lipped.

Nancys friend at the bar said Adam didnt drink in there. She said sometimes Nancy would stop by for a take out salad and Adam was with her a couple of times and he stared down at the floor.

She also said Nancy didnt talk about her problems much.. she spoke about happy things.

The interview that was done with her could have ommitted anything.. If she had said anything about drugs, I suspect it would have been edited out. It was days after that she spoke..

Really dont get why you wouldnt believe a boy who had aspergers wasnt on p[rescription meds especially knowing that she said he was becoming worse.. How many parents of kids with aspergers dont jam pills down their thraot (albeit innocently becasue they have been taught that drugs are the answer)
CTM

United States

#16 Jan 11, 2013
There is no doctor. They brought forth the Colorado Doc innaminit. The newest school shooting , with a shotgun, kid said he was bullied. Apparently ANY truth here is being hidden to save political embarassment, even careers, and to keep the gun and drug arguments fueled as they "search for an answer" without giving us any truth.
no more drugs

Edmonton, Canada

#17 Jan 11, 2013
On account that you have chosen to disbelieve he was taking meds, kinda relates to what I posted earlier..(we were told this via the media only a couple of hours after the shooting.. it is in these couple of hours that any hope for any truths would have been revealed)

It appears many people are more comfortable "waiting to be told" rather than using their own head ...

Like I said, chosing to turn a blind eye to the truth (that was already told to us a couple of hours after the shooting), so that we can allow ourselves to get distracted with everything other than the truth..

This mentality gives us "permission: to sit around and "wait" around for the lip service so that we dont have to use our voice (and logic)to make any changes..

You dont actually believe that the shooters doctor's name and his medical reports are going to be handed over to the media so to tell us any truth, do you?

Im curious as to why you have chosen to disbelieve first habe early accounts of the meds?

Apparently you have chosen to believe other reports, but why not the meds?

It is predictable that the shooters doctors and any medical reports have been/will be sealed like most of the other shooters..
CTM

United States

#18 Jan 11, 2013
I'm not jumping to any conclusions but am asking a lot of questions that nobody seems to want answered.
zipp

Noblesville, IN

#19 Jan 11, 2013
I know something about dealing with disturbed persons. Many of you as well as the country asks why and looks for some articulable deep reason for such a sickening tragedy. Do yourself a favor, don't search for meaning too long. The "reason" or motive likely won't satisfy you. We're not talking about rational or meaningful thought. See for yourselves in time, but no such thinking will produce anything productive. We must look to other signs of behavior to learn something going forward.
no more drugs

Edmonton, Canada

#20 Jan 11, 2013
Zipp,

When we learn that legal drugs are causing this kind of violence everywhere..

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