Motorcycle accident in Oswego county...

Motorcycle accident in Oswego county...

There are 21 comments on the News10now.com story from Jul 3, 2006, titled Motorcycle accident in Oswego county.... In it, News10now.com reports that:

One person was airlifted to the hospital. It happened just after 9 p.m. on County Route 15 in Sandy Creek in Oswego County.

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TOC

Vestal, NY

#1 Jul 6, 2006
YOU WERE A NICE GUY FROM WHAT I NEW. YOU MADE AN IMPRESSION ON ME! I WILL NEVER FORGET THE VERY FIRST TIME I SAW YOU. YOU TRULY ARE A UNIQUE PERSON. I AM ANGRY THAT YOU ENDED YOUR LIFE SOONER THAN NECESSARY. YOUR DEATH REALLY EFFECTED ME! I HAVE YOU FACE IMPRINTED IN MY MIND. EACH TIME I GO TO UNCLES, I WILL THINK OF YOU. YOU DID NOT HAVE TO DIE!! IT WAS A STUPID CHOICE THAT YOU MADE. I WISH I HAD TALKED WITH YOU MORE THAN I DID. I INVISION YOU ON YOUR BIKE, GOING DOWN THE ROAD. I WANT TO GO TO SANDY POND. WHY???? IF ONLY!!! I WILL LET IT GO AND LET YOU REST IN PEACE. IT WONT BE EASY, BUT I KNOW IT IS WHAT YOU WANT. THANK YOU AND GOOD BYE!!
Ann

Queensbury, NY

#2 Jul 6, 2006
Dear Mark: I pray that you did not suffer long from your injuries. I was there at the scene just about 15 seconds after your accident. Your bike was in the road and my sister and I stopped to look for the rider. The pizza delivery guy spotted you and we stayed with you until medical help came and left with you. I hope you are at peace. God Bless you and your family. Love, Ann
TOC

Vestal, NY

#3 Jul 7, 2006
Today is your funeral, yesterday was the wake. I didn't go to either one. I wish I had gone to the wake, so that I can confirm that it is indeed you who I am thinking of. I keep thinking the next time I go to Uncle's, I will see you there and give you a big hug and tell you all about my experience of thinking you were dead, when all a long it was your twin brother. I know that I am wrong and it is you. I just can not figure out why your death has bothered me so much. It is not like we were close, but for what ever reason I can not get over your death! Perhaps it is the way that you died. I am able to feel so much of the pain, it surrounds me and I need you to set me free. Please give me that peace of mind, I know that you are okay, I feel your soft and quite soul near at times. How did it all happen, beside going too fast. I guess this writting that I do will help me. I worry about your brother. This has been hard on everyone. As you know I just can not let it rest. I'm not even sure what I am in search of, maybe confirmation from you, maybe peace who knows. What was it like as you headed down the road. Little did you know that what was ahead of you was your final stop her on earth. I wish I had gotten to know you better, the young man who has now engulfed my life daily with a feeling that can not be let go of. That is all for now
TOC

Vestal, NY

#4 Jul 7, 2006
Ann wrote:
Dear Mark: I pray that you did not suffer long from your injuries. I was there at the scene just about 15 seconds after your accident. Your bike was in the road and my sister and I stopped to look for the rider. The pizza delivery guy spotted you and we stayed with you until medical help came and left with you. I hope you are at peace. God Bless you and your family. Love, Ann
Thank you for being kind. I hope Mark was okay while with you. You wonder what he said, his last words, what were they?
Ann

Queensbury, NY

#5 Jul 7, 2006
Dear TOC: Mark is now engulfed in my life too, but different from yours. I am a 50 yr. old mother of 3 and I saw the scene through a mother's eye. My heart goes out to his mom and siblings, and to you since your pain sounds so deep. I did not know Mark, just stayed with him until medical help came and I feel grief too. And if it helps--the only word I heard was him telling the EMS that his name was Mark. He had a lot of medical people trying to save him. I live just outside of Albany, NY, my family's camp is at Sandy Pond, and, I also have relatives that live in Binghamton. Small world. Take care TOC. I wish I could ease your pain.
TOC

Vestal, NY

#6 Jul 8, 2006
Ann wrote:
Dear TOC: Mark is now engulfed in my life too, but different from yours. I am a 50 yr. old mother of 3 and I saw the scene through a mother's eye. My heart goes out to his mom and siblings, and to you since your pain sounds so deep. I did not know Mark, just stayed with him until medical help came and I feel grief too. And if it helps--the only word I heard was him telling the EMS that his name was Mark. He had a lot of medical people trying to save him. I live just outside of Albany, NY, my family's camp is at Sandy Pond, and, I also have relatives that live in Binghamton. Small world. Take care TOC. I wish I could ease your pain.
Dear Ann - I thank you! It never dawned on me that he would effect your life, but it makes sense obviously, one can not be by the said of a dying stranger, a young man and not have that effect them for the rest of their life, in one way or another, especially for a mother. I know that Mark really is grateful that you stayed with him during his final moments of life. I am sorry that it had to be under those circumstances. I know that Mark would be saying a big thank you! Not everyone would have stopped, and even bigger, not everyone would have stayed given the tragic scene. I also know is family would be grateful to you. I say a big thank you to you from them through me. Given what I know, I just can not imagine the pain and sorrow the family is feeling, the loss. My heart goes out to them, also wishing I could take their pain away. I think their will always be a bond between you and Mark, and I think that someday, he may be there for you or your family in a way only known to you. Again, many, many thanks for your kindess. I have some questions I would like to ask you about. Maybe it will help me find some peace. If you have any questions, I will try to answer them as best I can. You know, It never dawned on me that there was some one with Mark after his accident, and I certainly, never thought I would be corresponding with that person. I guess our lifes were meant to cross in one form or another. I'm sure you never thought that you would be reading a post and corresponding with someone that new the stranger who had just come into your life. Funny how life is. When you think about it, what are the chances that someone would post their thoughts on a tragic incident and have another total stranger reading about that same tragic incident and be involved as well. If I can be of any help,please let me know! Sometimes it helps to talk, or in our case write. Take care, Ann
Ann

Queensbury, NY

#7 Jul 9, 2006
Dear TOC: Thank you for all your kind words. I am just glad that I was at the right place at the right time. Life does work in mysterious ways. You and I communicate due to a connection to a tragedy. Was it coincidence, fate, or was it Mark connecting us so that I could help you through your grieving process in a way that no one else can at this time. I'm sure you have a lot of questions that maybe I could shed some light on. The young pizza delivery guy witnessed the accident, I came upon it seconds after the fact. I feel for him too as it must have left a lasting impression. He was also at Mark's side, the first one. Find comfort in knowing that Mark was never alone after his ordeal--he had a lot of caring people surrounding him. It all happened so quick that in my heart I believe that Mark did not suffer. Please also relay this to Mark's family if you see them. And offer my condolences. The loss of Mark must weigh heavy on them. I know how I feel, and how you yourself are feeling, I cannot imagine the pain in that family. The next time I go to Sandy Pond, I will visit the site and say a prayer for Mark, his family, friends, and of course you. Take care.
TOC

Vestal, NY

#8 Jul 10, 2006
Ann wrote:
Dear TOC: Thank you for all your kind words. I am just glad that I was at the right place at the right time. Life does work in mysterious ways. You and I communicate due to a connection to a tragedy. Was it coincidence, fate, or was it Mark connecting us so that I could help you through your grieving process in a way that no one else can at this time. I'm sure you have a lot of questions that maybe I could shed some light on. The young pizza delivery guy witnessed the accident, I came upon it seconds after the fact. I feel for him too as it must have left a lasting impression. He was also at Mark's side, the first one. Find comfort in knowing that Mark was never alone after his ordeal--he had a lot of caring people surrounding him. It all happened so quick that in my heart I believe that Mark did not suffer. Please also relay this to Mark's family if you see them. And offer my condolences. The loss of Mark must weigh heavy on them. I know how I feel, and how you yourself are feeling, I cannot imagine the pain in that family. The next time I go to Sandy Pond, I will visit the site and say a prayer for Mark, his family, friends, and of course you. Take care.
I have a reply, but am having trouble posting my reply. more later
TOC

Vestal, NY

#9 Jul 10, 2006
Ann - I was down stairs ironing when I realized something, it hit me like a ton of bricks! I have been looking to you for help me in dealing with Marks death, then the bricks fell.. Our paths crossed so that " I " could HELP you! If I am right, you are having a hard time with all of this.. right? The tables should be turned, I think you are the one that needs my help. It has been all about me and Marks death, but it should be the other way around, does that make any sense? I think maybe I should be the one to listen and help you. What do you think? My other question was, can you tell me exactly where the accident happened and where Mark lay? My husband and I want to go up sometime with in the next couple of weeks. I want to bring up a flower rock. I really do not want to put it along the side of the road. Stand at the road side, thinking in memory while cars pass by just has no privacy. It sounds like you new Mark was going to die, did he die with you? Can you tell me if Mark was over a small embankment or just off to the side in a lightly wooded area? I think once I go up, I will be able to be at peace, then I can start to let go of some of these feelings. I would very much like to return the favor to you, so I hope you will share your experience and thoughts with me. Remember, I am not family, I'm a friend. There is nothing you could say that would make me made, hurt, angry, sick or up set. I can handle anything, believe me, anything! I know that you can not speed, hit a telephone pole and look good. I can not imagine what image you may still see, but I would like to help in any way that I can, if you let me. If the shoe was on the other foot, I would want to know all about this stranger that has entered my life for a brief time, or for ever. Maybe you just want to forget about it, that is okay too. I would assume that after seeing and being apart of what you were apart of, you might wonder why it was you that was there at that time, or how do you stop remembering what you felt while with Mark. Maybe seeing one of your childrens faces in Mark. I don't know. I don't know how this has effected you, but I hope you will share your experience with me. If you prefer to talk under a private forum like email, let me know and we can set something up through this site, so that we are not posting private information. If I had not posted anything, would you have posted something on your own? Please take care and I am here to talk and listen.
Ann

Albany, NY

#10 Jul 10, 2006
TOC: I will never forget my experience with Mark. The whole series of events that day lead up to my being there at that time. So many things could have put me somewhere else so I guess it was meant to be. I have relatives in Binghamton who go to My Uncle's Place. Possibly you even know them. My sister who was with me in Sandy Pond has also been there. I was in Binghamton for a small family reunion this past June 26th. I have been trying to keep specifics from this public site to protect viewers, whomever they may be. You can email me at [email protected] and we can take it from there. I am looking forward to hearing from you.
TOC

Vestal, NY

#11 Jul 13, 2006
This is for the pizza delivery man.. Thank you! No need to tell you TOC - take on caring!
Tricia

Syracuse, NY

#12 Aug 24, 2006
i'm not sure if you look on this site anymore ann or toc but my name is tricia and mark is my uncle
(well my mom has dated his older brother mike for a few years now) I would like to thank you ann for what you did. I know you may have felt helpless sitting by his side that night but i'm sure he was grateful that you were there. TOC- I do not know who you are but i hope you have found comfort in this tragic loss. As you said before you were worried about marks twin matt...matt was in myrtle beach when it happened and had to find out the horrible news from a phone call, he lost his best friend. Matt is doing alittle better now. Everyone still asks the question why? and we probably always will. I thank both of you for being so caring and compasionate. I hope you get this. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. Tricia
Tricia

Syracuse, NY

#13 Aug 24, 2006
If either of you would like to know more email me at [email protected]
TOC

Vestal, NY

#14 Sep 10, 2006
It has been 2 months and 4 days since you passed way. For me, time seems to be crawling along at snails pace. It began with venting my anger and frusteration, it then turned in to confusion and questions, leading to why I was experiencing all that I was, with no one or no where to turn.

No one to talk with, no one to explain things, no one who would understand, I was by myself.. until Ann came along. Your death brought 2 people together, for reasons yet to be known. In this world, we never know why, we do not understand and we do not know what is up ahead.

Perhaps, it is for those very reasons that we are told to enjoy life, treat people well and do good to others. I also know, that heaven is beautiful, peaceful and you are with family. Unfortinatley, I know a little bit about the place you are now and I know that you accepted your choices and rose to a respect that I'm not so sure I would or could be able to do.

Maybe you are a better person than I. I know that you are aware of the connection your death brought. I am very thankful to Ann, for a million reasons. I wish I could go back in time and say the things I wanted to say. I will always remember your eyes. A look you gave when we were outside, I wish I had seen in you what I see and know now, but I just saw those beautiful eyes!

I know there is a reason you keeping close to my mind, a reason you return to my life, I guess it will take some time, but time does not always work to our advantage does it? You are never far from my mind and grow closer to my thoughts, prayers and heart with each day. I know you are there, just as you you that I know you are there.
TOC

Vestal, NY

#15 Sep 10, 2006
Writting my thoughts helps a little, sorry to say not more than I would like. As feelings and thoughts are left up to each individual to interpit in their own way, only the person for whom is writting knows exactly what is meant, what they really know and feel, everything else is nothing more than speculation and judgement.

I wish I could do more, ease the pain your family feels, but I can't. I wish I could carry that burden of their sadness, but I can't. We all have free will, and no matter how much I wish I could help, I can't. Maybe someday, in time, I will be able to share with one of our siblings. I guess I will know when the time is right.

Maybe you are returning brighter in my life because of a non disclosed reason or situation. Sometimes, I wish I was not able to feel so much of everyone's pain, sorrow, emptiness and sadness, but that is a part of my life and I have come to accept it, it just isn't easy. Just as I feel the joys, I feel everything else.

It is still hard and will always be hard. Each time I see some one on a bike, I think of you. God Bless Mark and thank you for TOC!
Mark Rensselaer NY

Albany, NY

#16 Oct 12, 2006
I just happened upon this site while trying to search an address in Delmar, NY a small town near where I live....I gather your loss/s have been substantial, and reading all these posts, and having been in 2 serious motorcycle accidents myself, I can see Mark was in "good hands" that day and still is in a deep sense. Best to all of you who have obviously made quite an impact now and then. Appreciate what we have now, tomoroow may not get here. You are all blessed
Ann

Albany, NY

#17 Dec 28, 2006
Tricia wrote:
i'm not sure if you look on this site anymore ann or toc but my name is tricia and mark is my uncle
(well my mom has dated his older brother mike for a few years now) I would like to thank you ann for what you did. I know you may have felt helpless sitting by his side that night but i'm sure he was grateful that you were there. TOC- I do not know who you are but i hope you have found comfort in this tragic loss. As you said before you were worried about marks twin matt...matt was in myrtle beach when it happened and had to find out the horrible news from a phone call, he lost his best friend. Matt is doing alittle better now. Everyone still asks the question why? and we probably always will. I thank both of you for being so caring and compasionate. I hope you get this. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. Tricia
Hi Tricia---I haven't looked at this site in months. I was surprised to find comments posted. I will email you with the address you posted. Sorry I haven't checked this sooner. I still think of Mark but just haven't been back on this site. Hi TOC---I haven't heard from you since August. Take care.
Jay

Binghamton, NY

#18 Jul 5, 2008
I read the posts on topic often, I have never seen this one. I'm surprised it is still on here, given the date of the article. I wanted to comment.

For "Ann"

You have done a wonderful thing, I'm sure this person is greatful and felt comfort with you and your daughter. I'm sure it will stick with you
forever. This must have been very hard. I think you and "TOC" were meant to help each other out. Life is like that.

For "TOC"

Sounds like you didn't know this person too well, yet there was an obvious connection. I can tell by what you wrote, you struggle with their death and all that surrounds it.It is apparent that this person meant a lot to you. You seem to be "in touch" with things that only people such as my self can identify with. Maybe that is what drew me to your post. I'm wondering if you are intutitive. I am, and I can tell by what you say and ask, you are dealing with many new things, so maybe it is all new for you.

There is a reason you and this Ann connected, especially in the way that you did. I think it was good for both of you to talk. Sorry to hear that you have a hard time with it. You were and still may be in a lot of pain and emotion, your posts say a lot about how you feel, and even more of what you have not said, I hear that too.

I wish you all the best and wanted to comment. I'm from Bing and I just can't believe that I have not seen this post, since I read this a lot.

You seem to be a very caring and "senstive" person, who's life has been impacted because of this person. My condolences to the family, as I'm sure they share some of what you have felt.

Again, just want to comment.
TOC

Binghamton, NY

#19 Jul 6, 2008
It has been 2 years. Not a single day goes by that you are not on my mind, somedays for extended periods of time. I have now come to terms with your death. You have reached out to me not just once but twice, for that I am greatfull. Sometimes I feel as though you are right there, right inside me. I'm glad that I could be here for you, but it has been hard. My heart now has new tenants, both for different reasons. You made a permenant connection to me, for that I thank you! People come into your life for reason that we may not know, i understand why, but it is not easy and some how through all this, things got even more intense. I have accepted that you will always be a part of me and my life for eternity. It took some time to adjust to all these new changes. In fact, I am still working on it.
You are never far from me, in fact I keep you very close to me. I wish I could ease your families pain. I would do anything to take it way for them, it hurts a lot. Thank you for being here for me, for being a part of my life. You are very special to me, more than words could say. But you already know all that. I miss you and thank you. I'm always here for you, as you know.
Ann

Queensbury, NY

#20 Jul 18, 2008
Hello TOC. I did realize that the 2 year anniversary for Mark's accident was a couple of weeks ago. I too think of him often. Especially when I go to Sandy Pond---which I may do this weekend. There was just a motorcycle accicent here in Albany a few days ago--young kid-22 yrs. ran into the side of a car. He too died of his injuries. That reminded me of Mark. I still shutter when I see motorcycles on the road. I hope you continue to heal and be well.
To: Jay--that was nice of you to add your feelings to this "old" post. I guess I was in the right place at the right time---left the County Fair to go back to camp, and ended up being a part of something that words really can't describe. To be witness to Mark laying in the grass, staying with him until the ambulance came so that he wasn't alone--I guess it was like being Mark's angel for the few moments. That day will be vivid in my memory forever. Take care everyone! Be safe.

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