Sand Springs Child Gets Off At Wrong Bus Stop During Storm

There are 8 comments on the Sep 22, 2009, News on 6 Tulsa story titled Sand Springs Child Gets Off At Wrong Bus Stop During Storm. In it, News on 6 Tulsa reports that:

Kaleb Nichols, 5, got off at the wrong bus stop in Sand Springs. "He was just soaking wet from the pouring rain that we got yesterday, and the flooding, and it was just a mother's worst nightmare.

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“Let me out!”

Since: Jul 08

Podunk, Oklahoma

#166 Sep 25, 2009
Well, you did it.
YOU tramatized him by making him afraid. Kids get lost and found ALOT, in stores, parks, their own neighborhoods. It's just part of growing up and they don't have to be afraid, YOU are making him afraid.
CINDY NICHOLS wrote:
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No Kaleb has not ridden the bus since this incident because he is so scared to get on it. We had to talk him into going to school the next day when he had always loved school!
Missyn Christa

Sand Springs, OK

#167 Sep 26, 2009
Oh, now it's TWELVE blocks? Is it just me or does anyone else find it amusing how the distance of the bus drop-off point to the child's home increases with every telling of the story? Channel six characterized it as Caleb was "wandering HIS neighborhood." Post #27 (Keystone) said he was dropped FIVE blocks from his home. Post #121 (Nichols) states he was dropped off SIX blocks from his home. Post #145 (Mary Mannford) states he was dropped out TEN blocks from his home. And now posts #153 and #154 (Missy Eaglin-Settles) states he was dropped off TWELVE blocks from his home.
Do you know where Cindy lives? I assure you I do and is most definitely NOT a block from 10th and McKinley. If I could tell you where they lived I promise I would but unfortunately the last thing they need is some nutjob on this site to find them. ANd the driver, distracted or not has a RESPONSIBILITY to these children, and the driver DID in fact state that he realized after Kaleb got off and had crossed the street it was the wrong stop but decided to continue on instead of calling Kaleb back. And you are absolutely right, I have made mistakes, the difference is my mistakes have never put a CHILD IN DANGER! And if I put myself in a position where I were directly responsible for the well being of other children, I would NOT put any of them off in a storm at 5 yrs old far from home, PERIOD.
Missy n Christa

Sand Springs, OK

#168 Sep 26, 2009
Well, you did it.
YOU tramatized him by making him afraid. Kids get lost and found ALOT, in stores, parks, their own neighborhoods. It's just part of growing up and they don't have to be afraid, YOU are making him afraid.

Do you HAVE children? If so then all I can say is I will be praying for that child. No one has ever said that children don't get lost, but Kaleb was not lost, he was left at the wrong location by the ONE person who at that time had the sole responsibility of ensuring that he got to his designated bus stop safely. And not only that but in the midst of a major thunderstorm numerous blocks from his home. Put yourself in the position of a 5 year old left in an unfamiliar area in a severe storm and tell me that you yourself would not be terrified, just as any other young child would be. AND FYI, not ALL children get lost, but most definitely don't get put in a DANGEROUS situation in a DANGEROUS world by the people placed in positions to keep them safe.
Missy n Christa

Sand Springs, OK

#169 Sep 26, 2009
]Ms Nichols, you are only two months into a 13 year relationship with Caleb's school. As a parent who has had children in the school system for over 15 years, I can tell you that a cooperative partnership with the school is KEY to school success. I would imagine this incident has left a bitter taste in the mouths of alot of people that you will be dealing with during Caleb's school years. In the future it might be wise to keep in mind the old adage that you get more flies with honey than with vinegar. IMO, you and Caleb would have been better off in the long run had you sat down with schools officials and discussed a plan to make positive changes instead of involving the media which only opened the door for the criticism you've been receiving
Just my opinion, of course...

Cindy DID indeed go to the school and try to resolve this issue and come up with a plan to assure that this did not happen EVER again in the future, and the schools response was that they didn't think the driver was in the wrong, and all he was legally bound to do was obey traffic laws, etc... It was made quite clear that they were protecting the driver as opposed to acknowledging the fact that a major mistake was made that put a child in jeopardy and then trying to work out better system for transporting these children safely. THAT is the reason why Cindy felt it necessary to address this in a public forum so that maybe the school would be forced to strengthen their methods of transport and see that there are areas which are weak and can and did put a child's life in eminent danger.

Lnc

Since: Sep 08

Owasso, OK

#170 Sep 26, 2009
Sand Springs Mom wrote:
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1) If factually illustrating the obvious hyperbole and malicious distortion of the truth being leveled against the bus driver by Nichols is "airing dirty laundry" then I'm guilty.
2) If standing up for truth and standing up for what it right is a "personality issue", then it's one that I'm proud to say I possess and would be proud to pass down to my children.
3) If you're not interested in truth, don't read my posts. Me obsessed? Ehhh, more like "tenacious" -- a character trait that has served me well.
4) How do you know that I was not personally involved? Do you think this event took place in a bubble? There were witnesses everywhere - on the bus, outside the bus, police officers, school officials, media. How do you know that I don't have first hand knowledge of the situation?
5) I have never said that ideas should not be shared to prevent this unfortunate situation from occurring in the future. Of course we should all look for answers.
6) I AM asking why the facts are being distorted by Nichols and the people who have taken up her cause? If you're looking for psychological pathology, you might start there.
Again, I pity you :(

You aren't involved. If so, name yourself. Otherwise, we'll assume you are in need of some serious attention. Distortion on behalf of the media means nothing.
Susie

United States

#171 Sep 26, 2009
If as a parent you are unwilling to teach your child, where you live, your neighborhood, and their own address; if you are unwilling to prepare before events happen and get to know your neighbors, and other children in the neighborhood to help your child make the transition to starting school; then I suggest you stop having children you refuse to responsibly take care of.

I think actually DHS should look into how this mother is using this situation to traumatize the child.

Instead of throwing blame, why don't I see this mother stepping up to the plate to volunteer to be a bus monitor? From what other posts have stated, she is a SAHM. Surely a few hours a day given to the community to help make all the children more safe including her own, would be much more productive than all the hand wringing and accusations of "trauma".

I too love how the story has mutated from being 2 blocks from the house to know almost 30 miles from home.
mothertoo

Broken Arrow, OK

#172 Aug 25, 2012
Do people think that the School/Bus Driver should wipe their kids buts for them too? If your child doesn't know where they should get off the bus then the child should ride a "Special Needs bus" there are two bus drivers aboard those buses , one driver who drives and another who watches the children and can assist and instruct children that need more help than the average child.

“searching myself”

Since: Sep 09

In Charming CA

#173 Aug 25, 2012
mothertoo wrote:
Do people think that the School/Bus Driver should wipe their kids buts for them too? If your child doesn't know where they should get off the bus then the child should ride a "Special Needs bus" there are two bus drivers aboard those buses , one driver who drives and another who watches the children and can assist and instruct children that need more help than the average child.
FINALLY!! Another truly parental viewpoint.

(I'm assuming you're a parent - if my kid doesn't know where to get off the bus, and he/she ISN'T special needs, THAT'S MY FAULT, friends and neighbors.)

Thank-you for this example of sweet reason.

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