Sand Springs Child Gets Off At Wrong Bus Stop During Storm

Kaleb Nichols, 5, got off at the wrong bus stop in Sand Springs. "He was just soaking wet from the pouring rain that we got yesterday, and the flooding, and it was just a mother's worst nightmare. Full Story
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Since: Jul 09

Tulsa, OK

#1 Sep 22, 2009
sh!t happens. this was obviously an honest mistake. this woman needs to get a grip on life.
lady

Tulsa, OK

#3 Sep 22, 2009
you cant expect a new driver to know this, but like everyone else! blame anyone else besides yourself or your kid! Glad the kid was safe!
DOVEY

Terlton, OK

#4 Sep 22, 2009
I do not understand how this could not be the bus drivers fault and/or rather the whole transportations departments fault... If you have too many kids for your bus drivers to not know where each one lives then your bus routes are way to messed up .. and needs better directing.. not only is it the safety and welfare of the child the bus driver is responsible for it is the child that is on that bus and until that child returns Home from being on that bus then the whole department is responsible .. what if something was to happen to that child while he was wondering the streets of sand springs.. alot could happen to a lost 5 year old and yes i believe the whole darn department should be thanking their lucky stars nothing happend to him.. Dont only tteach your drivers how to drive but train them to know where each child lives and dont let them responsible for them until they know their routes..BAD DECISIONS MADE BY LARGE
ThePatriot

Saint Paul, MN

#5 Sep 22, 2009
The school district is responsible for the children until they return home. I dont blame this bus driver, I dont blame the parent. I blame the school district itself. You have 60 kids on a bus, One bus driver who is driving in inclement weather and trying to control the kids at the same time. Come on, Really? There should be another person on that bus who is monitoring the kids and making sure they get off at the correct stops. I have seen bus drivers fail to stop at Rail Road crossings, I have seen them speeding and driving very unsafe on many instances. I stopped my children from riding on school buses many years ago. They are not safe.

Since: Jun 09

Owasso, OK

#6 Sep 22, 2009
I agree with the fact that there should be a buddy system or something but in this particular case I think it is pretty darn harsh to blame the bus driver. Only because she was very new on the job. Why didn't the other 3 kids that got off at Kaleb/Caleb's stop say something, were they old enough to take charge and be asked by the parents to help keep watch? I am going out on a very thin and stretched out limb and am going to say that Caleb/Kaleb should have known by the look of his surroundings and his mother not being at that stop waiting, that it wasn't his. How long has he been in school? We do not have a neighborhood watch but we do have older kids that kind of take care of and walk the little kids from the bus stop to make sure they will be okay. I just makes sense, but if there aren't older kids, then I would say you just have to make sure as a parent to be at that stop and walk them home. She couldn't find him for an hour, did she call authorities? Did she get in her car and drive the neighborhood or find out the bus route to back track? He could have been kidnapped or swept away by flood waters, I would have freaked out. I am glad it all worked out but there has to be something to fix this, and not happen again to any child.
wasp

Tulsa, OK

#7 Sep 22, 2009
a bad situation....I don't see how the driver can be blamed though. I've subbed maybe three times (in another district)and I had an older student sit up by my seat just to let me know the little things... but still this driver can't know all he needs to know yet.

btw, I never want to drive a route. They don't pay enough for the responsibility involved.
dlc

Owasso, OK

#8 Sep 22, 2009
DOVEY wrote:
I do not understand how this could not be the bus drivers fault and/or rather the whole transportations departments fault... If you have too many kids for your bus drivers to not know where each one lives then your bus routes are way to messed up .. and needs better directing.. not only is it the safety and welfare of the child the bus driver is responsible for it is the child that is on that bus and until that child returns Home from being on that bus then the whole department is responsible .. what if something was to happen to that child while he was wondering the streets of sand springs.. alot could happen to a lost 5 year old and yes i believe the whole darn department should be thanking their lucky stars nothing happend to him.. Dont only tteach your drivers how to drive but train them to know where each child lives and dont let them responsible for them until they know their routes..BAD DECISIONS MADE BY LARGE
if you can do better then go take his job little miss cant be wrong!!!!!!!!!!
Le Sigh

Tulsa, OK

#10 Sep 22, 2009
It would be so easy for the transportation department to make a list of children's names for each stop or at the very least a list of how many children get off at each stop. This would minimize the confusion and help the sub driver as far as accountability.

I am just so glad the child was not hurt.
Susie

United States

#11 Sep 22, 2009
Le Sigh wrote:
It would be so easy for the transportation department to make a list of children's names for each stop or at the very least a list of how many children get off at each stop. This would minimize the confusion and help the sub driver as far as accountability.
I am just so glad the child was not hurt.
What about when children are sick? How about when new children move to the neighborhood? Wouldn't the numbers be off? How would that make it "so easy"?

How about the parents on a route get together and watch out for each other's kids? It used to be the neighbors all used to know each other up and down a street. Now you are lucky if you know your adjoining neighbor's last names.
wandadavis

Tulsa, OK

#12 Sep 22, 2009
when my grandchildren were riding the bus at Prue schools they had a tag they wore on thier wrist that let them know which bus to take, maybe something like that could be done for the young children except put their stop on the tag...just a thought
Typical WT

Broken Arrow, OK

#13 Sep 22, 2009
O.M.G. Get a f@#$ing grip. Guess she's never been on a bus full of screaming kids with incoherent drivers buzzing around the bus, trying to drive and text at the same time. Maybe her kid ought to know what the bus stop looks like, my 3 year old can at least identify the neighborhood we live in.....
Dangers of Public School

Claremore, OK

#14 Sep 22, 2009
The public school system gives the impression that they are responsible for your child's safety and well-being from the time they receive your child into their care at the morning bus stop until he or she is delivered back to the same stop in the afternoon. But, as is so obvious from the spokesperson's statements, the school system only makes the most basic minimal effort.

If you entrust your child to the school system by allowing them to ride the bus to and from school, you are placing your child's safety in THEIR OWN hands. Yes, your five-year-old kindergartner is responsible for knowing exactly where he lives, keeping himself from becoming distracted so that he can get off the bus at the right time, and avoiding the peer pressures of any other kids who might encourage him to get off the bus at a different stop than his own. At five years old, this is all his responsibility.

I was foolish enough to think the schools cared about my children's safety, too. And then the same exact thing happened to my son when he went to kindergarten in Owasso. The driver let him off the bus several blocks away from home without checking at all to make sure he was at the right stop. My five year old son was let off the bus and had to walk home past the home of a registered sex offender and along the same street where an attempted abduction took place just a few months later.

Thank God my son made it home safely, as did the little boy in this story - no thanks to the school system. But it made a decision easy for our family. We now homeschool our children, not only because it is that much safer, but because the quality of the education they receive far exceeds that of the public schools. I would encourage the mother in this story to look into it herself. There is no reason her son should ever relive this nightmare again, but unfortunately there is no realistic expectation that he will not be in danger again under the pitiful public school system as it stands today.
Bus_Driver

Tulsa, OK

#15 Sep 22, 2009
It's not the Bus driver's fault. New to the job, stopping at the proper places.... can't be expected to know WHO gets off when and where... especially as they don't always get off at the same stop anyways!
Ignorant

Tulsa, OK

#16 Sep 22, 2009
If you care so much, why not just take him to school. It's NOT the school's job to babysit or raise your children.

I've found the radical right looks for excuses to homeschool and bash public schooling at every turn. The real reason however is usually political or religious--- they want to prevent their children from hearing any opposing views.... just like the radical Muslim schools.
Josh

Broken Arrow, OK

#17 Sep 23, 2009
I believe a lot of you would have a different opinion if it was your child. Lets not forget he is FIVE and is naive. He is NOT old enough to be held responsible for not knowing that the stop was not his. That is the responsibility of the district.
School employee

Oklahoma City, OK

#18 Sep 23, 2009
It is not a right it is a privilege to ride a school bus. I don't think that it is law that state schools even have to pick up any child, it is just a courtesy.
mama2

Oklahoma City, OK

#19 Sep 23, 2009
Thank goodness the out come of this unfortunate accident was good. It was a comedy of errors and could have had a very sad ending. Who,s to blame?? Hard to place blame. The bus driver was dealing with many issues driving in bad weather a bus load of rowdy children a kindergarden student that everything is new to and apparently no older sibling in place to make sure he got off at the right bus stop. Could Mom have asked a neighbors child to help her little one?? It is a parents responsibility to make sure all the bases are covered where their child concerned.9359
Observer

Owasso, OK

#20 Sep 23, 2009
Really--it's the bus drivers fault her son made a mistake?
It's a mistake.......and her son is responsible. If he's not mature enough to get off at the right place, maybe she should be RESPONSIBLE and make a different way for him to get home. That is a parents responsibility.
It's going to be someone else's fault for this mom all his life, I guess.
fyreiceprincess6

Tulsa, OK

#21 Sep 23, 2009
When I first moved here, my kids didn't have a bus stop. On the first day of school the pick up went great but when it was time for the kids to be home, well things got a little hairy for awhile. No one knew where my kids where, so I was out driving around and making calls to the bus barn to find out where they were. The person at the barn got on the radio and found out where they were. After much confusion and about 30 minutes of driving the various areas around where I live, I found them waiting at the house for me. The bus driving just had to figure out where to add another stop. I didn't blame the driver or the school because they had done the best they could in a tough situation.
Sand Springs Mom

Owasso, OK

#22 Sep 23, 2009
"She couldn't find him for an hour, did she call authorities? Did she get in her car and drive the neighborhood or find out the bus route to back track?"
This is an excellent point. From what I've heard the child was let out 2 blocks from his home. How hard could he have been to locate?
It's obvious to me that this woman is sniffing around for a lawsuit. Dollars to donuts we're going to hear that the family is trying to sue the school district.
It was unfortunate that the child was let off the bus a block early. It was unfortunate that he got wet and was scared. It was a mistake, plain and simple. Get over it already.

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