Bicyclist in trouble again over illegal trail at China Camp

Full story: Marin Independent Journal

A San Rafael man who built an illegal bike trial on federal land in 2001 is in legal trouble again - this time for carving a trail in China Camp State Park, authorities said.
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Larry Wilson

Foothill Ranch, CA

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May 2, 2008
 
poorly designed trails cause erosion, which is why the general public should not build them. a one-third share of a $34000 fine plus probation was obviously not harsh enough to teach this guy a lesson.
Now if we could just catch those morons who drive their 4 wheelers around in corte madera marsh.
Concerned Citizen

San Jose, CA

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May 2, 2008
 
When government doesn't meet the needs of its citizens, the citizens will take action.

Thank you Mr. More for all of your hard work.
Concerned Citizen

San Jose, CA

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#3
May 2, 2008
 
Mr. Wilson, the trails in question here are not poorly designed. Just the opposite, these trails are some of the most well-designed trails in the county.
Terri Alvillar

Pleasanton, CA

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May 2, 2008
 
How about some real punishment this time? The only thing that will make any dent in the behavior of this self absorbed sport will be enforcement and higher penalties, something that has been practically nonexistent thus far.
DirtGirl

Castro Valley, CA

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May 2, 2008
 
While I don't condone his behavior I can't blame the guy for building a trail. Bay Area residents, who often preach freedom and equality, feel a sense of entitlement to local trails and do everything possible to keep cyclists off 'their' trails. If you give cyclists a place to ride and construct safe and sustainable trails there wouldn't be a need for people to build illegal trails. The sport isn't going away. Obesity in the US is at an all time high as our the health care costs associated with it. Everyone deserves to enjoy our open space in a manner they prefer. Cyclists commit more time to trail maintenance than most any other user group Free the singletrack!
Zzz

San Jose, CA

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May 2, 2008
 
Terri Alvillar is just a hatin' bitch. We all know that.

Thanks Mr. More for your work. Since the Marin bike haters won't let us ride legal trails, some have no choice but to create illegal ones.
trail sharer

Hayward, CA

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May 2, 2008
 
it's simple supply and demand. until there are enough trails for the number of uses, people will continue to use the trails they find.

using proper channels is the way to go, however until the government is willing to provide the public with the access they want this will continue.

"self absorbed sport"? you're talking about the 'trails are for us only' hikers and equestrians, right? 1% of households own a horse, 30% own bikes and yet horses are allowed everywhere and bikes almost nowhere. time is on the side of the cyclists and there's no way to put the genie back in the bottle.
David Curtis

Milpitas, CA

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May 2, 2008
 
We cannot allow radicals like More carve up our open space for their own selfish use. Whenever possible, the natural beauty of the spaces must be preserved for everyone to enjoy. If we absolutely must scar the land to build a trail, it must be for the mutual benefit of all users and designed in such a way to have minimal impact on the environment.

One of the paramount issues that we emphasize with our kids is the appreciation and
respect for these lands we are fortunate live within. They are the next generation custodians of this land. The disrespect exhibited near Robinhood Drive is disturbing, and we the taxpayers bear the burden of repairing it.

Dave Curtis
Coach
San Rafael High School
Mountain Bike team
trail sharer

Hayward, CA

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May 2, 2008
 
David Curtis wrote:
We cannot allow radicals like More carve up our open space for their own selfish use. Whenever possible, the natural beauty of the spaces must be preserved for everyone to enjoy. If we absolutely must scar the land to build a trail, it must be for the mutual benefit of all users and designed in such a way to have minimal impact on the environment.
One of the paramount issues that we emphasize with our kids is the appreciation and
respect for these lands we are fortunate live within. They are the next generation custodians of this land. The disrespect exhibited near Robinhood Drive is disturbing, and we the taxpayers bear the burden of repairing it.
Dave Curtis
Coach
San Rafael High School
Mountain Bike team
RADICALS? hyperbole much?
Local Resident

San Jose, CA

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May 2, 2008
 
The social trails in this area are not for "their own selfish use". These trails are widely used by all members of the local community -- hikers, bikers, dogwalkers... everyone has benefited from these well-designed and very scenic trails.
Local Resident

San Jose, CA

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May 2, 2008
 
Wierd -- My ISP must be in Fremont
Trail Sharing

Berkeley, CA

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May 2, 2008
 
The curiosity of this event is that few will see it for what it is: a symptom of the failure of our civic leaders to support the needs of a very large population of recreational land users. It isn't as if this is some kid building jumps but a highly skilled 54 year old trail builder who has decided that an arcane system of trail control is stacked against mountain bikers. A collection of Boards populated with a "we were here first" mentality have contrived laws and policies to insure exclusive access to trails by groups of hikers and equestrians. When citizens, by their actions, confront a refusal to share a public holding a self-rightious outrage ensues and the tired and over inflated horror stories about mountain bikers are broadcast. Grab your children and run for your lives!
At some point, to simply avoid going insane, mountain bikers have to laugh at the absurd stinginess of intransigent policies which do not allow a very large tax paying faction access to local trails. These policies are in direct contradiction to mission statements which delineate the necessity of supporting a quality experience and access for all land users. There is another faction of mountain bikers, though, who see that working within a process for change is simply a way to be kept in check by a stacked deck. As a result their only alternative is to make their own trails. The funny part is that these new trails are better constructed and more sustainable than most of dirt roads and trails the Knights of the Boards are protecting.
Keep this in mind. Mountain Bikers are not going to disappear. This a population that is growing by leaps and bounds and has little patience for contrivance or posturing. They are not unreasonable or cruel. They are your neighbors, they are community workers, they have children, they are tax payers. They also know when they are being abused and manipulated. How long do you think that is going to last?
Michael M.
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Mill Valley, CA

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May 2, 2008
 
I think we should just cut it all down and make trail for everyone. I hear that horses need trails, walkers, runners, bikers, Off roaders, etc... and if we dont get our way we should then do it anyways.
How many trails do we need? Forget about the OPEN space where everyone can enjoy and experience some of the few remaining NATURAL areas where animal and plant life can be continued to be admired and preserved. I still believe that most of us bikers, walkers, runnners, all terrain riders, animal watchers, etc...Continually return to places like China Camp and all beautiful areas surrounding us here in Marin b/c of its relatively untouched beauty and how we feel when we r there. If everyone wanting a trail got one we wouldn't have that. If everyone built an illegal trail b/c their needs weren't being met how many trails would we have?
I say give everyone what they want. Lets make more trails for all. Screw animals, plants and everything else that calls the parks home. They should have thought of our priorities, sports and our hobbys first.

"Let take it all down...me first, nature later"
Biker

Denver, CO

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May 2, 2008
 
The solution is to build additional trails and biker-only trails. Or as they do with the Tahoe Rim Trail, alternate days upon which bikers are permitted on certain trails.

The concept of environmental damage is derived from large corporations and logging companies doing mass abuse to the land. To turn around and apply related laws to tiny single-track trails in public parks is the real problem here. We need to create more trails in our parks and stop worrying so much that a particular species is going to go extinct simply because a 1 or 2 foot wide path has been created. The worry is misplaced; it was valid with mass destruction but not when it comes to minor increases in trails within our parks.

Unless we modify our parks to bring them in line with how people from the 21st century want to use them, there will continue to be conflict and shortage of trails.
kevin

United States

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May 2, 2008
 
This is a good start to getting the Bikers to abide by the rules. Now lets get to the ones on the roads, running stop signs and causing dangerous situations all around
ALex

San Jose, CA

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#16
May 2, 2008
 
It's trail for pete sake. Not an oil spill, or a nuclear waste site. For all you nay sayers, when was the last time you took your bike out for a ride? ANd maybe ventured on a path that was unmarked but was obviously not a threat to the environment. If you want something to complain about try looking out your window at that huge gash carved out all along the waterfront in Marin.In case your wondering it's called the 101.There's more environmental harm coming from our roadways than some silly little trail extension.Great work Mike.
"If the People lead, the Leaders will follow".
Tim Daniels

United States

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May 2, 2008
 
If he's found guilty, he should get a maximum sentence. I don't think it's going to be hard to prove his guilt, he was caught red handed. Obviously didn't learn his lesson the first time. What is he thinking?

MICHAEL MORE DOES NOT REPRESENT THE MOUNTAIN BIKING COMMUNITY AT LARGE. HE IS ACTING ON HIS OWN, OR WITH A VERY SMALL CONTINGENT OF SIMILARLY SMALL MINDED INDIVIDUALS!

Tim Daniels
President, Bigfoot Bicycle Club
Humboldt County, CA
Another Biker from Marin

Hyattsville, MD

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#18
May 2, 2008
 
Most hiking trails on Mt Tam were built by trail blazers such as Mr. More. These trials were originally the work of individuals. There was a trail built by bikers in 70's in Baltimore canyon in Larskpur called the S Trail. It was taken over by the open space district and renamed Barbara Springs trail and bikes are no longer allowed there. Obviously the trail was made well since they kept it.

Considering that this is primarily old ranch land in the middle of one of the most populated regions of the country it is hardly a wilderness area.

Interesting that the survey that goes with the article has so many people against bikers getting more trails. Seem people don't want the bikers to have legal trails either.
well made trails for all

United States

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#19
May 2, 2008
 
This guy makes amazing well-designed trails in under utilized publicly owned open spaces. And having used some of these trails I can only say that they respect nature and are utilized by as many walkers as bikers. Thanks for all your hard work.
Gavin McClure

Santa Cruz, CA

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May 2, 2008
 
I'm happy to see that the park Rangers are doing their jobs. Wanton and selfish destruction of public parkland is detrimental to the cause of mountain biking and, as in this case, environmentally harmful. Perhaps this time the judge won't be fooled by hollow public apologies.

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