Pittsburg says NO, Vallejo says YO to pot sales

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Benny Hill

Vallejo, CA

#1 Feb 20, 2013
The City of Pittsburg has joined neighboring Antioch in an outright ban on medical marijuana storefronts, citing increases in crime, illegal drug sales and criminal violence.
The City of Vallejo has not joined other Bay Area cities in a similar ban, owing to the support of continued sales by council members Stephanie Gomes, Marti Brown, and Bob Sampayan. An attempt to impose a ban in 2012 fell flat when the council split 3-3 due to the absence of a council member. Many citizens support a similar ban in Vallejo, and look forward to revisiting a vote on banning sales. Marijuana supporters insist the voter approved Measure C to tax pot sales an additional 10% indicates community support of continued marijuana sales, while critics cite the two year rise in crime as a consequence. The all-cash businesses cause many to question the amounts tendered to city coffers via Measure C as an accurate reflection of sales.
obama

San Ramon, CA

#2 Feb 20, 2013
This "IS" Vallejo's business plan, no hope without dope
the formula

Vallejo, CA

#3 Feb 20, 2013
farm the poor, provide them weed, dream of better vallejo, vote democrat.
redds light

Vallejo, CA

#4 Feb 20, 2013
Benny Hill wrote:
The City of Pittsburg has joined neighboring Antioch in an outright ban on medical marijuana storefronts, citing increases in crime, illegal drug sales and criminal violence.
The City of Vallejo has not joined other Bay Area cities in a similar ban, owing to the support of continued sales by council members Stephanie Gomes, Marti Brown, and Bob Sampayan. An attempt to impose a ban in 2012 fell flat when the council split 3-3 due to the absence of a council member. Many citizens support a similar ban in Vallejo, and look forward to revisiting a vote on banning sales. Marijuana supporters insist the voter approved Measure C to tax pot sales an additional 10% indicates community support of continued marijuana sales, while critics cite the two year rise in crime as a consequence. The all-cash businesses cause many to question the amounts tendered to city coffers via Measure C as an accurate reflection of sales.
davis knows he has 4 votes to ban, unless mcconnell has rolled, so it's clear he likes the tax money coming in too. there's nothing else in the revenue pipeline. we are w(h)ores to the weed trade.
the vallejo dopes

Vallejo, CA

#5 Feb 20, 2013
Benny Hill wrote:
The City of Pittsburg has joined neighboring Antioch in an outright ban on medical marijuana storefronts, citing increases in crime, illegal drug sales and criminal violence.
The City of Vallejo has not joined other Bay Area cities in a similar ban, owing to the support of continued sales by council members Stephanie Gomes, Marti Brown, and Bob Sampayan. An attempt to impose a ban in 2012 fell flat when the council split 3-3 due to the absence of a council member. Many citizens support a similar ban in Vallejo, and look forward to revisiting a vote on banning sales. Marijuana supporters insist the voter approved Measure C to tax pot sales an additional 10% indicates community support of continued marijuana sales, while critics cite the two year rise in crime as a consequence. The all-cash businesses cause many to question the amounts tendered to city coffers via Measure C as an accurate reflection of sales.
this alone tells me a lot of weed traffic and crime potential is coming into vtown from these areas. only a fool would believe otherwise and we have plenty of them, some on council.
shammie the hut

Concord, CA

#6 Feb 20, 2013
Benny Hill wrote:
The City of Pittsburg has joined neighboring Antioch in an outright ban on medical marijuana storefronts, citing increases in crime, illegal drug sales and criminal violence.
The City of Vallejo has not joined other Bay Area cities in a similar ban, owing to the support of continued sales by council members Stephanie Gomes, Marti Brown, and Bob Sampayan. An attempt to impose a ban in 2012 fell flat when the council split 3-3 due to the absence of a council member. Many citizens support a similar ban in Vallejo, and look forward to revisiting a vote on banning sales. Marijuana supporters insist the voter approved Measure C to tax pot sales an additional 10% indicates community support of continued marijuana sales, while critics cite the two year rise in crime as a consequence. The all-cash businesses cause many to question the amounts tendered to city coffers via Measure C as an accurate reflection of sales.
LOL!

In case you forgot sammie, VPD's busts on the pot clubs in Vallejo got tossed out of court. We will likely be sued again for illegal search and excessive force and lose.

http://www.sfgate.com/default/article/Vallejo...

(t)urd enragement!
jd miller is nuts again

Vallejo, CA

#7 Feb 20, 2013
shammie the hut wrote:
<quoted text>LOL!
In case you forgot sammie, VPD's busts on the pot clubs in Vallejo got tossed out of court. We will likely be sued again for illegal search and excessive force and lose.
http://www.sfgate.com/default/article/Vallejo...
(t)urd enragement!
in case you forgot, the votes of gomes, brown, and sappyman to let them continue led to the raids. the point is, all the other cities in the county say NO, cities in criminal rich areas like pittsburg and antioch say NO, and here we are, inviting all the criminals associated with this line of trade into our city. you just cannot think practically can you?
shammie the hut

Concord, CA

#8 Feb 20, 2013
jd miller is nuts again wrote:
<quoted text>in case you forgot, the votes of gomes, brown, and sappyman to let them continue led to the raids. the point is, all the other cities in the county say NO, cities in criminal rich areas like pittsburg and antioch say NO, and here we are, inviting all the criminals associated with this line of trade into our city. you just cannot think practically can you?
LOL!

You sound like the psychopath that blames his victim for the crime he commits. Like it or not our Police Department's practices stink, and with documented issues and a $4 million settlement, you need to stop blaming the council for their mistakes.

(t)urd enragement!
jd miller is nuts again

Vallejo, CA

#9 Feb 20, 2013
shammie the hut wrote:
<quoted text>LOL!
You sound like the psychopath that blames his victim for the crime he commits. Like it or not our Police Department's practices stink, and with documented issues and a $4 million settlement, you need to stop blaming the council for their mistakes.
(t)urd enragement!
now this is interesting. you continually blame the p.d. for their mistakes, real or imagined. at least you acknowledge the mistake of the council that allowed the p.d mistake to happen, although i don't believe you intended to do so, did you?
shammie the hut

Concord, CA

#10 Feb 20, 2013
jd miller is nuts again wrote:
<quoted text>now this is interesting. you continually blame the p.d. for their mistakes, real or imagined. at least you acknowledge the mistake of the council that allowed the p.d mistake to happen, although i don't believe you intended to do so, did you?
LOL!

Was this $4 million mistake imagined?

http://www.sfgate.com/default/article/Vallejo...

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Im Talking Now

Vallejo, CA

#11 Feb 20, 2013
The point of this thread is that cities all around us, in several counties, have declared the marijuana trade to be unwelcome in their communities for the crime it brings into them. So they are all wrong and only Gomes, Brown, and Sampayan are right? I agree Mayor Davis should bring this back up for vote, at least place a moratorium on continued operation of marijuana storefronts pending staff review. How many times I've heard "we can do better than that" from certain council members, yet the same voices go silent on this because of the uncertain tax skim from it. We are no better than the drug dealers IMO.
Im Talking Now

Vallejo, CA

#12 Feb 20, 2013
shammie the hut wrote:
<quoted text>LOL!
Was this $4 million mistake imagined?
http://www.sfgate.com/default/article/Vallejo...
(t)urd enragement!
How about you? You want us to continue to be known as the "go to" city for marijuana? Do you think there is NO associated crime growth because of it?
shammie the hut

Concord, CA

#13 Feb 20, 2013
Im Talking Now wrote:
The point of this thread is that cities all around us, in several counties, have declared the marijuana trade to be unwelcome in their communities for the crime it brings into them. So they are all wrong and only Gomes, Brown, and Sampayan are right? I agree Mayor Davis should bring this back up for vote, at least place a moratorium on continued operation of marijuana storefronts pending staff review. How many times I've heard "we can do better than that" from certain council members, yet the same voices go silent on this because of the uncertain tax skim from it. We are no better than the drug dealers IMO.
Being that the Vallejo raids got tossed out of court looks like the VPD could not make a case that the recipients of the pot were none other than law abiding medical marijuana users. Begging the question I would imagine not having access to medical marijuana might actually increase sales of criminal drug dealers as medical patients in pain seek relief. We can certainly do better than Chiefy nics misguided and costly failed raids.

LOL!

(t)urd enragement!
Im Talking Now

Vallejo, CA

#14 Feb 20, 2013
shammie the hut wrote:
<quoted text>Being that the Vallejo raids got tossed out of court looks like the VPD could not make a case that the recipients of the pot were none other than law abiding medical marijuana users. Begging the question I would imagine not having access to medical marijuana might actually increase sales of criminal drug dealers as medical patients in pain seek relief. We can certainly do better than Chiefy nics misguided and costly failed raids.
LOL!
(t)urd enragement!
So your answer essentially is YES to continued sales at storefronts regardless of the consequences of increased crime from them? Let me pose this consideration to you. The other cities that banned pot clubs all cited "increases in crime from out of town visitors and drug dealers" something like that. But you are saying we will have them either way? Would you support another vote on it at council?
SpamTard McSukit

Oakland, CA

#15 Feb 20, 2013
Another epic fail. 4 million down the toilet due to incompetence at ALL levels, Osby, Chief Nic on down to Grissle. Guess these folks have earned another raise. Isn't that how it works in Vallejo? Trip over your d!ck and get a raise while the rest of the city goes down the toilet? Rookies could NOT have handled this any worse than it was handled and it would have saved a fortune. Keystone cops in Vallejo.
Im Talking Now

Vallejo, CA

#16 Feb 20, 2013
This all happened under the new regime. They could not have directed the CM to stop the raids?
shammie the hut

Concord, CA

#17 Feb 20, 2013
Im Talking Now wrote:
This all happened under the new regime. They could not have directed the CM to stop the raids?
LOL!

Chiefy Nic conveniently retired shortly after.....apparently fleeing direction.

(t)urd enragement!
Im Talking Now

Vallejo, CA

#18 Feb 20, 2013
shammie the hut wrote:
<quoted text>LOL!
Chiefy Nic conveniently retired shortly after.....apparently fleeing direction.
(t)urd enragement!
The CM could have directed the PD Chief to stop the raids, provided the new regime directed him to do so. Guess they supported the raids, right? Or maybe McConnell supported the raids? Whatever the case, the raids continued. So what if Nichelini left afterwards, nobody told him to stop.
shammie the hut

Concord, CA

#19 Feb 20, 2013
Im Talking Now wrote:
<quoted text>The CM could have directed the PD Chief to stop the raids, provided the new regime directed him to do so. Guess they supported the raids, right? Or maybe McConnell supported the raids? Whatever the case, the raids continued. So what if Nichelini left afterwards, nobody told him to stop.
LOL!

He did stop...he fled.

(t)urd enragement!
Im Talking Now

Vallejo, CA

#20 Feb 20, 2013
shammie the hut wrote:
<quoted text>LOL!
He did stop...he fled.
(t)urd enragement!
What about another vote to close the pot clubs down? You still haven't answered me.

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