Gay marriage divides religious leader...

Gay marriage divides religious leaders and organizations

There are 42 comments on the Santa Cruz Sentinel story from May 17, 2008, titled Gay marriage divides religious leaders and organizations. In it, Santa Cruz Sentinel reports that:

Nowhere is the opinion divide on gay marriage sharper than in the nation's religious communities.

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My2cents

Aptos, CA

#1 May 18, 2008
"Veteran San Jose gay rights activist Wiggsy Sivertsen, a San Jose State University counselor, and her partner, a San Jose police officer, are considering using their new right to marry to make a political point, and a spiritual one."

Please do not attempt to usurp my religion, just so you can make a "political point".

November, here we come. And by the way, as long as I'm at the polls supporting the Constitutional Ban, I may as well support the other conservative ballot issues.

I think the Liberals really shot themselves in the foot on this one.
lower ocean local

Aptos, CA

#2 May 18, 2008
yup GOD does not like homosexuality. you say you were born that way? I say you made a choice to bend over to your sin! you could have chosen to not have sex at all, and just serve GOD. you will pay for your decision. we all meet our maker one day
all_done

United States

#3 May 19, 2008
well it's like this: soon it will all be over for all of us and all I have to say is you better be ready to meet your maker. Remember Sodem and Gamorah well all you gay people out there !! here comes the big kahoona so bend over... your time is near.
angelo R J

Brooklyn, NY

#4 May 19, 2008
i am not agree with gay married but also,having in mind if gay married is part of human right as a free person who choose what is better for them and for the rest of human peace, then, it should be acept...
Genesis

United States

#5 May 19, 2008
I can not understand how the courts would have allow marriage between a women and a women or mens. Read Genesis in the Bible. God created Adam and Eve not Adam and David or Eve and christina. This is going against God creation. How can a man and a man have babies? How are they going to have sex? This is just the beginning of giving this people the freedom to abuse and get other young people involve in their sexual activity and saying that it's ok to go against God creation. Looks like man does not believe in God anymore. Men thinks he is better than God and thay nothing is going to happen to them. Its only when we are in Trouble that we call God for help. Lets pray for this sick people who have rejected Gods laws.
Advocate

Santa Cruz, CA

#7 May 19, 2008
Keep your ignorance and religion out of our loving relationships. I'm looking forward to a time when all Americans can laugh about how ridiculous it was that woman couldn't vote, blacks weren't people, and gay people couldn't marry. The time will come.
Disgusted

Antigua and Barbuda

#8 May 19, 2008
This whole thing is disgusting. Now it will be ok for another man to seduce our boys and for another woman to seduce our girls. This is a very nasty cycle and it will affect generations to come. The law now is saying that it is okay for our daughters to date other girls and for our sons to date other boys.

The animals do not behave in this manner even if all male animals are raised in the same home for years. We humans who have more senses than animals do not know what is appropraite behaviour.
LuCkY

Marina Del Rey, CA

#9 May 19, 2008
I don't understand how humans, as you say, are so intelligent yet they assume that just because people are gay that they think we want ALL MALES or ALL FEMALES!!! I mean really! there are some sick people in this world that will try to hit on little kids... But those people will be there REGARDLESS of what the law says! I mean really some of you so called straight people are probably hating because you probably had a gay experience and liked it and are now embarassed! Don't hate on us cuz we got what you can't have cuz you're too embarassed to go for it! so shut your mouths and get over it... We're coming out and no one is going to stop us!
Ahrrrrggggg

Santa Cruz, CA

#10 May 19, 2008
Take it like a Man man up the assoon assposible.
How dose this 20incher look in my you know hooo.
Joe

Hernando, FL

#11 May 19, 2008
I find it amazing that in Jesus's time, Roman Emperors openly married other men. Gay marriage was legal, common and accepted in the ruling Roman society and yet there are no clear and direct statements from Jesus that forbid gay unions or marriage. Homosexuality was all around Jesus and it carried very little thought about it in the day. The only statements we can find were in the Gospels of Judas in which Jesus healed one man's gay lover and Jesus gave him his blessing without condemnation but then this is probably why the Roman Catholic Church decided to cherry pick which gospels to include in the Bible and which to ignore. I have the feeling Jesus was a man who loved everyone, chose to go embrace those who needed him. Choose to stop people from stoning prostitutes, I just dont think Jesus would be blocking gay marriage, I think he would be embracing the gays and this is what the church should do too.
gotta love santa cruz

United States

#12 May 19, 2008

I would like to thank all the good people that stepped up and spoke for God today. You say he is on his way to get the gays, well befor he gets here you better- hide your porn under the mattress, push that bottle of booze to the back of the shelf, stay away from your back fence so you don't wag your tongue to one neighbor about the other.Stay out of your daughters room at night and out of your secretary's pants durning the day. God can see you, even behind your bible.
Joe

Hernando, FL

#13 May 19, 2008
Disgusted wrote:
This whole thing is disgusting. Now it will be ok for another man to seduce our boys and for another woman to seduce our girls. This is a very nasty cycle and it will affect generations to come. The law now is saying that it is okay for our daughters to date other girls and for our sons to date other boys.
The animals do not behave in this manner even if all male animals are raised in the same home for years. We humans who have more senses than animals do not know what is appropraite behaviour.
Not quite. There is a TV show that was on one of the cable stations (animal planet, discovery, etc) that shows Homosexuality is observed in most mammals. Deer, Bear, Dolphins, Whales, Lions etc all have homosexuals. Dolphins and Elephants are the next most intellegent next to humans and they have higher percentages of homosexuals then humans on average.
reasoner

Ben Lomond, CA

#14 May 19, 2008
If you don't want gay marriage, then don't marry a gay person yourself. Gays don't make rules on who you may marry, and neither does some imaginary person in the sky. Face it: rules to keep gays from marrying are based on ignorant straight people feeling icky about the idea. "Icky" is not a valid reason to deny anyone's rights.
I'm straight and not ignorant, and proud of my gay friends.
Overturn this in Nov

San Francisco, CA

#15 May 19, 2008
All I can say is that I'll be voting in November to overturn this God-forsaken little rule.
Watsonville now Maui

Ewa Beach, HI

#16 May 19, 2008
When did you "christians" decide that you had the right to be the judge and jury of anyone elses business? What I do in my life is my business, just as what you do is yours, so long as we are not hurting each other. You mind you business and I'll mind mine. Gay folks marrying is not going to change your life or affect you in any way. It is plain none of your business, so butt out!
Disgusted

Pompano Beach, FL

#17 May 19, 2008
Unbelievable! if my grandmother will come back to live she will be horrified and go back to her grave after find out that men marry men and women marry women, unfortunaly only in this country something like that happens.

If the gay men think they have so many rights why don't they go to war in Irak and defend our country like real men upps like real gays!
Disgusted

Pompano Beach, FL

#18 May 19, 2008
What kind of message are gay people and supporters are giving to the new generation of children. They will be so confused and they will think that it is normal to see a boy kissing another boy or sexually abusing him. I just can not believe that they make that kind of relashionship legal, it was bad enough to see that out in the public, now we have to make it legal??????????

I hope the normal people come to their senses and vote in November to revert that decision in California!.......where is the governor of California Arnold help!
Disgusted

Pompano Beach, FL

#19 May 19, 2008
Ok Joe.....we all now know that you are gay!!!!!!!!!
LuCkY

Marina Del Rey, CA

#20 May 19, 2008
Ok Disgusted not all gay people are sexual abusers! you are truly ignorant! Making it legal won't change anything... you're so lame that i bet you do love it up from behind...
N right on Joe! you tell them "straight" people how it is...
hmm

Bellevue, WA

#21 May 19, 2008
"I find it amazing that in Jesus's time, Roman Emperors openly married other men."

Why would you find that amazing? There were sinners in Jesus' time, too. Just because so-and-so did this and that does not make it right (ESPECIALLY when it comes to the Romans!).
Let's all remember something; If we're going to talk about Jesus, remember that He loves us all. He would not want us as Christian to condemn in His name. IT'S NOT OUR JOB. When he walked the earth, He Himself did not even condemn us in each of our various sins. His anger, when presented, was aimed at the elders and the hypocrites of the church. Jesus would want us to stand together as His Hands and Feet and empbrace everyone. He loves us all - HE has reconciled us with God. We will be unitedwith God becuase of JESUS, not because of our sexuality.
Jesus embraces all men and women and children. Cast your vote accordingly, teach your children proper living, and sign your petitions, but it is NOT our job to judge and condemn others. Believers who are doing that here on this forum are shedding ALL Christians in a very bad light.
God Bless and God help us all.

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