Letter: Don't panic over toxics in na...

Letter: Don't panic over toxics in nature

There are 9 comments on the Chico Enterprise-Record story from Jul 1, 2010, titled Letter: Don't panic over toxics in nature. In it, Chico Enterprise-Record reports that:

I drove through the five-mile Serpentine Canyon in the Feather River Canyon recently, and I have lived to tell about the beautiful walls of shiny green serpentine - rocks that have been our official state rock for 45 years.

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man in the boat

Durham, CA

#1 Jul 1, 2010
o Romero o Romero, where art thou
Butt Trumpet

United States

#2 Jul 1, 2010
Isn't it nice to see our state politicians wasting their time (and OUR money) on useless things like this bill? I guess they have nothing better to work on, LIKE THE BUDGET!
Vern

AOL

#3 Jul 1, 2010
And your point is?
Max

Chico, CA

#4 Jul 1, 2010
Butt Trumpet wrote:
Isn't it nice to see our state politicians wasting their time (and OUR money) on useless things like this bill? I guess they have nothing better to work on, LIKE THE BUDGET!
If CA Senator Romero is proposing law or regulation to cope with the risk of asbestos held in serpentine rock, her concerns ought to be supported by some scientific findings that such asbestos presents a public risk. Whether or not she has that is an important piece of information we don't have. In the same way, dismissing a possible health risk from this asbestos held in rock because we easily cope with the California poppy and wisteria doesn't make any sense at all. Each health hazard must be evaluated individually.

As to Ms. Romero wasting time better spent on resolving the state budget, our problems with the budget aren't the result of legislators spending insufficient time on it. Our problems result from conflicting interests in taxation and spending that require a two thirds majority to resolve. Our legislators only represent the conflicting interests of their constituents, who simply want no tax increases (for themselves) but no funding reductions to programs and institutions they favor. In presenting an impossible problem to the legislature we then heap blame on them for their inadequate results.
Try Common Sense

Chico, CA

#5 Jul 1, 2010
Just an FYI
Asbestos is everywhere. It is pervasive. It is in your concrete it is in your dry wall, texture coatings, floor tiles.
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Serpentine lines the canyon walls along I70 in the Feather River canyon. It is that green slick (Serpentine is sometimes called slickenside) rock near Pulga that is almost waxy to the touch.
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There is no personal exposure limit (PEL) for asbestos because it is believe that even a small amount (.5 microns if memory serves)can lead to asbestosis or mesothelioma.
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I knew a man who taught a class in asbestos removal for licensing asbestos supervisors in Sacramento. He claimed there isn't a man, woman or child who did not have at least a little in their lungs but that not everyone will get it.
Ban Asbestos Now

Pawtucket, RI

#6 Jul 1, 2010
I understand arguments against "swapping the rock," but while serpentine is naturally occurring, I'm of the understanding that it was designated as the state rock because of it's industrial uses for the asbestos it contained - not because it's pretty. As such, this title has some dark associations with it. Swapping the rock presents a chance to raise awareness about a ban - http://www.banasbestosnow.com - as well as related diseases, like lung cancer & mesothelioma. I think a change would be good.

“AccountKiller”

Since: Jul 09

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#7 Jul 1, 2010
Once again, a great example of how retarded our government officials can get. Just for the record, my grandfather, while he was alive, told me more than a few times that he had chewed on asbestos quite a bit as a young child & lo-&-behold, he died at 99 years old with no cancer, heart disease, diabetes or arthritis. Go figure.
Max

Chico, CA

#8 Jul 1, 2010
4thGenChico wrote:
Once again, a great example of how retarded our government officials can get. Just for the record, my grandfather, while he was alive, told me more than a few times that he had chewed on asbestos quite a bit as a young child & lo-&-behold, he died at 99 years old with no cancer, heart disease, diabetes or arthritis. Go figure.
Happy for your grandfather's long life (was he killed in an accident?), but exposure to asbestos by gnawing it is different than exposure by inhalation. Certainly individual variability has a lot to do with vulnerability to various diseases. One person might be a heavy smoker all their adolescent and adult lives and live into and beyond their nineties while another might succumb to lung cancer in this thirties. Still, how many serious people would argue than inhaling asbestos or heavy smoking isn't health and life threatening

“AccountKiller”

Since: Jul 09

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#9 Jul 1, 2010
Max wrote:
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Happy for your grandfather's long life (was he killed in an accident?), but exposure to asbestos by gnawing it is different than exposure by inhalation. Certainly individual variability has a lot to do with vulnerability to various diseases. One person might be a heavy smoker all their adolescent and adult lives and live into and beyond their nineties while another might succumb to lung cancer in this thirties. Still, how many serious people would argue than inhaling asbestos or heavy smoking isn't health and life threatening
Thanks Max for the redundant, "I'm-going-to-give-the-ra tional-reply-that-this-society -has-conditioned-me-to-give " response....My point is,of course, you never know what's going to kill or harm any one of us really, at any given time. Sure, you can use statistics & derive a point of reference within a certain societal context, but when does all the law-making stop? It certainly can't go on forever or we'll find ourselves having to obtain a permit to wipe our own arse! When do we finally fully espouse our liberty to live & die as free human beings in a natural world where, naturally, all beings live & die randomly? When are we free to make wise or foolish decisions, be accountable for them & not play the "victim card"?

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