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Buffalo

Buffalo, NY

#445 Nov 21, 2012
The whole situation is sad. Just trying to make sure another agency doesn't suffer the same fate
Buffalo

Buffalo, NY

#446 Nov 29, 2012
Has Pam been indicted yet?
Irwindale

La Habra, CA

#447 Nov 30, 2012
She thinks she got away with not be indicted. Time will tell....... VLI needs to continue the process, but unfortunately VLI has no money! CARF is scheduled to visit in January 2013. My prediction is they will not receive a 3 year accreditation. At one time, VLI was a prestige agency! Not no more!
Buffalo

Buffalo, NY

#448 Nov 30, 2012
Do you know where she is now? Buffalo, pennsylvania, or California?
just wondering

Lancaster, NY

#449 Dec 11, 2012
Irwindale wrote:
She thinks she got away with not be indicted. Time will tell....... VLI needs to continue the process, but unfortunately VLI has no money! CARF is scheduled to visit in January 2013. My prediction is they will not receive a 3 year accreditation. At one time, VLI was a prestige agency! Not no more!
Is the no money have to do with Pam Hayes?
VLI

Irvine, CA

#450 Dec 14, 2012
just wondering wrote:
<quoted text> Is the no money have to do with Pam Hayes?
No, the agency was doing ok financially (they had been better but were still doing well when Pamela left) as well as in great standing with CARF while she was the CEO.
VLI

Irvine, CA

#451 Dec 14, 2012
Buffalo wrote:
Do you know where she is now? Buffalo, pennsylvania, or California?
As far as I know, she is in New York at this time. May I ask why you are asking?
Fed up

Buffalo, NY

#452 Dec 14, 2012
Why did she leave if everything was so good? Why was she asked to leave southeast? What about the fake PhD?
RJP

Lancaster, NY

#453 Dec 14, 2012
Fed up wrote:
Why did she leave if everything was so good? Why was she asked to leave southeast? What about the fake PhD?
I was sitting at a table with Bill Stachura he" said I quote 'Ms Hayes did not want Southeast to contact VLI". I'm sorry but from what I understand she worked there for roughly 20yrs give or take a few. Why would the board agree to hire this person as she was hiding something. The parents pushed the issue about the Pam Hayes hiring issue and what was found out on this blog. The board had no other alternative but to confront her on this information on this blog after all Southeast was serving there adult childrens needs. The board should have never hired her mainly because she didn't want the board to contact VLI.But they did anyway. Pam was escorted out of the building as I was that leads me to believe she was terminated. But the board will say she resigned as they do not want to look bad. Thats a fact.
VLI

Irvine, CA

#454 Dec 15, 2012
Fed up wrote:
Why did she leave if everything was so good? Why was she asked to leave southeast? What about the fake PhD?
There are many theories on why Pamela left VLI, it's all a matter of which theory you decide to believe. I will not voice my opinion on any of them as I have found on here that people ask questions and when they don't get the answers they want, they go into attack mode. Two of the most prominent theories on opposite ends is that 1) she was asked to leave because she was accused of stealing a significant amount of money from the company and 2) because the board President who was previously an attorney before he was disbarred for "unethical conduct" was about to lose his house and found an opportunity for a high paying job. I'm sure you will hear many more reasons as to why she left VLI and whichever theory you believe is up to you. However, keep in mind there are many employees who were let go from VLI both during and after Pamela was the CEO so you can't believe everything you read on here. As for why she left SEW, I can't say for sure. From what I have gathered, people found this forum and bought into it without speaking to anyone and set out on a witch hunt. I have heard it was parents who initially called for Pamela's termination however I don't claim to know for sure and if it was, I understand why they might have been eager to take action as if it was my child, I would want to protect them at all costs as well. I also am aware that Pamela was making a lot of drastic changes at SEW which perhaps they weren't ready for. When the board hired her, they were dazzled by the impact she has made in the industry in CA and thought they wanted the same thing but found out quickly they weren't quite ready. I do not know anyone from SEW personally but I do know that many people at VLI were deeply saddened when Pamela left and many of them resigned as well. As for her PhD, I can assure you it is not and has never been fake. Again, I state that there are many people on here who will say horrible things simply to hurt someone. These people are nothing but sad individuals who feel the need to bring others down with them.

That's the information I know at the moment. Like I said before, you will make your own decision on Pamela and her character and believe what you wish when it comes to VLI and SEW. I do know that Pamela has never had anything but love for VLI and when it came down to it and she had the opportunity to take them down, she refused. Make your own choices but honestly, I'm not sure why this discussion is even going on. SEW will survive and so will Pam.
VLI

Irvine, CA

#455 Dec 15, 2012
Fed up wrote:
Why did she leave if everything was so good? Why was she asked to leave southeast? What about the fake PhD?
Also, here's a link about Randy Faith, the previous board president at VLI who took over after Pamela left. How you interpret it is up to you but it seems to me like there might have been a motive behind Randy's dismissal of Pamela.

http://members.calbar.ca.gov/fal/Member/Detai...
RJP

Lancaster, NY

#456 Dec 15, 2012
I know of the facts here in Buffalo NY . At this point I only answered the question from writer fed-up had about what happened at SEW. I have been asked what had happened at Southeast from potential employers during interviews.I don't hide the fact I was terminated because I could . I am honest about my termination with them. Interviewers have found that termination reason pretty lame .But I am honest during all interviews.
Nora Jones

Buffalo, NY

#457 Dec 15, 2012
Does anyone really know the exact truth? No, and we probably never will. Personally, I found Pam to be unethical and anyone who challenged her was "let go". Strong, ethical personalities do not let employees go. They take their strengths and mold them. She had something to hide. Her PhD was from a diploma mill. In the end, good people were let go and this mess will follow her if she is not up front when she moves on.
RJP

Lancaster, NY

#458 Dec 15, 2012
Nora, I know what Bill Stachura told me about Pam Hayes in my earlier statement. I would get on the needle for that one (Lie Detector Test)I just know for me personally I will be up front and honest with employers about what happened to me at SEW. As for the people who tell half truths and outright lies they have to live with those decisions . I'm referring to management at SEW
RJP

Lancaster, NY

#459 Dec 15, 2012
Nora Jones wrote:
Does anyone really know the exact truth? No, and we probably never will. Personally, I found Pam to be unethical and anyone who challenged her was "let go". Strong, ethical personalities do not let employees go. They take their strengths and mold them. She had something to hide. Her PhD was from a diploma mill. In the end, good people were let go and this mess will follow her if she is not up front when she moves on.
I can give Pam Hayes credit for the fact she is a great saleswoman. Southeast Board of directors took her at her word about what she did at VLI and what she was going to do at SEW. The Board at SEW couldn't verify any of her accomplishments. For all the years she worked at VLI mind you this was at Pams request. What does that say?
Sew worker

Buffalo, NY

#460 Dec 15, 2012
We need to move on now & look towards the future..this is getting old let it go..we now have a new director.....
RJP

Lancaster, NY

#461 Dec 15, 2012
I'm happy for you all !! If someone asks me a question I will respond and give them the information I have. There are some of us who never had any closure..
Chinocents

Scottsdale, AZ

#462 Dec 15, 2012
VLI wrote:
<quoted text>
No, the agency was doing ok financially (they had been better but were still doing well when Pamela left) as well as in great standing with CARF while she was the CEO.
The agency APPEARED TO BE DOING WELL, BUT WAS NOT. The bottom line is that Pam overextended the business, took out 3 different loans, totalling more than the value of the building, and that was 1 and a half years before she left. Then took the money and spent some on the business and some on herself.She also had an auditor who did every thing she told him to and he misrepresented the information to the board. In reality, for two years before Pam left, VLI was in serious financial difficulty. For the last 7 months before she left, they were having loans from a private person to cover payrolls. Dont even dream it was doing well. Not only that, but she had not paid medical insurance, and allowed workeman's compensation to go into arears, to a point, that it is still owe it today. Pam is guilty, Pam needs to repay the 500,000 thousdand and more that she took.
chino cents

Scottsdale, AZ

#463 Dec 15, 2012
just wondering wrote:
<quoted text> Is the no money have to do with Pam Hayes?
you betcha
chino cents

Scottsdale, AZ

#464 Dec 15, 2012
VLI wrote:
<quoted text>
Also, here's a link about Randy Faith, the previous board president at VLI who took over after Pamela left. How you interpret it is up to you but it seems to me like there might have been a motive behind Randy's dismissal of Pamela.
http://members.calbar.ca.gov/fal/Member/Detai...
The motive was the information that there had been personal loans that were made to vli to cover for the payroll on a short term basis, and the company was hurting financially and that she was double dipping. Now is you want you can ignore this but it is true, like it or not, we didnt like it either.!!!

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