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Grieving familes pay $61k to pair of scamming 'detectives'

There are 26 comments on the Pasadena Star-News story from Aug 18, 2008, titled Grieving familes pay $61k to pair of scamming 'detectives'. In it, Pasadena Star-News reports that:

Two men allegedly pretended to be sheriff's detectives in a scam that fleeced about $61,000 from two grieving families who had lost their sons.

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Mufon

Los Angeles, CA

#1 Aug 18, 2008
What a couple of vermin, victimizing people while they are grieving, for financial gain. It'll be interesting what cornball defense their attorneys try to sell to a judge or jury. Typical criminal impulsive behavior, doing what they want, when they want, totally discounting the rights, feelings or regard for others.
Sink Em Both

Atlanta, GA

#2 Aug 18, 2008
These are the most disgusting of all humanity...they should rot in prison without rights or any kind!
Cali Mom

Beltsville, MD

#3 Aug 18, 2008
I hope the pond scum ( can't call them men, because real men would not do something so horrific)are held accountable in a court of law, so that the grieving families can find closure. My thoughts and prayers go out to the two families. If the two pieces of crap are not held accountable by our judicial system at least they will be held accountable by God.
LBC Con Job

Richfield Springs, NY

#4 Aug 18, 2008
Likewize here: post below.... vicious cons... corrupt cops.... stupid corrupt prosecutor Sharon Panian.(withholding evidence from bias Judge Deborah Andrews)

SET UP & FRAMED a woman in the LBC... also while grieving for her father who had just passed away.... these cons entered her home, planted evidence used her credit cards... faked phone calls and Email....(this con was her x-b-f and his X-con partner)..... the DV cop lied to judges, got search warrant, violated civil rights.... got her fired from her job... arrested.... all a scam... by a wife-beating drug-dealer in LB who couldn't stand seeing her with another man.... vengeful prick! vermin this one is...
Stupid Detectives in the LBC, you tell this cop to jump and he says "How high?" HE's a DV cop for Christ sake! Arent' they supposed to tell when a lying scum bag is out for revenge???
I mean the guy had 3 RESTRAINING ORDERS filed against him, one by the woman he was SETTING UP! Get a clue!!!

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/long-beach-ca...

Since: May 08

Covina

#5 Aug 18, 2008
Cold-hearted. To prey upon families grieving the death of loved ones using the law enforcement angle is the act of cowards. Hope when this comes to trial, the jury shows as much compassion for these losers as they (the scum) did for their victims. Sentence them to the max!
JCB737

Duarte, CA

#6 Aug 18, 2008
It said that they're from Whittier.

Not surprising.

These guy's are low life scum.
RRL

Decatur, GA

#7 Aug 18, 2008
how dumb can people be?

and how did two low income immigrant families have $21,000+ in one case and just as much in another to pay over.

yes, I know they were grieving but to pay over so much cash to 2 men they barely knew....

I didn't know it was so easy to scam people.
Guess again

United States

#8 Aug 18, 2008
RRL wrote:
how dumb can people be?
and how did two low income immigrant families have $21,000+ in one case and just as much in another to pay over.
yes, I know they were grieving but to pay over so much cash to 2 men they barely knew....
I didn't know it was so easy to scam people.
Guess again pal, it's not just ordinary citizens or ordinary people.... it's also the LBPD DV Detectives... they are push overs for scams.
You'd think they'd have a clue when it comes to vendictive wife beaters - naaaa,
all you have to do is FAKE Victim..... scaming these guys is like takin candy from a baby, naive as shit they are... plant evidence and these idiots fall for it every time. IN LONG BEACH, you can't get away with this shit in Fullerton...
cops are much too smart over there.
Read about what this clown did to his x g/f and got away with...

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/long-beach-ca...
Mufon

Los Angeles, CA

#9 Aug 18, 2008
Guess again,

I'd be sort of interested in hearing your story if your writing wasn't so disjointed. I assume you have an axe to grind with Long Beach PD, but I didn't bother to click on the links, nor did many others, either, I'd guess, because we couldn't figure out your cause, exactly. Did you get cheated out of money while grieving the loss of a loved one?
Ya Right

United States

#10 Aug 18, 2008
Mufon wrote:
Guess again,
I'd be sort of interested in hearing your story if your writing wasn't so disjointed. I assume you have an axe to grind with Long Beach PD, but I didn't bother to click on the links, nor did many others, either, I'd guess, because we couldn't figure out your cause, exactly. Did you get cheated out of money while grieving the loss of a loved one?
How would you know what anyone else is doing on a forum??? if you want to know what it's about, click the link like everyone else did.. ha ha ha
seriously

La Habra, CA

#11 Aug 18, 2008
What a couple of creeps.
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Oxnard, CA

#12 Aug 19, 2008
All your comments are seemingly valid for how the news media portrayed this story, we are the first family victimized by Martin Pelayo he got majority of our assets and is not being held accountable on charges for what we have lost. There are other families as well he was fleecing. It was not both guys as portrayed in then news either that is wrong but that is all the info they have on this case and do not know the second guy is a victim not a perpetrator of Martin Pelayo. Martin used fear, manipulation and coercion to get the money and things out of people he did. I am one of them he tried to intimidate so say what you want I have lived this entire story and seen what Martin did to us. I am now struggling to keep a roof over our heads our kids have been taken out of their home and moved to a rental, Martins family is illegal as well as some of the others in this case. He is a horrible human being fleecing his own culture of hispanic families. Everything was handled in Spanish by Martin he also was acting as a Homeland Security agent and Frank Kegel had signed "official" paperwork from Martin as well as another guy under the idea that Martin was creating a team for Homeland Security the other two guys did not know what he was doing they were also lied and coerced by Martin Pelayo. The Da is seeking conviction however they have not heard what Martin has done to the rest of the family and friends he went after. There are many other families he has gone after, Frank was pulled into this as a victim not as a perpetrator, everyone needs to understand this. He was deceived into thinking he was going into Homeland Security and he was going to be the medic on the team he knew nothing about crime nor anything of the kind he was a hardworking family man trying to improve his career and he fell prey to a horrific predator Martin Pelayo. Martin has taken from me and my family nearly everything I had built for my retirement, all of our assets, our motorhome, our second property for the kids and money, the receipts are all in writing of what he has taken.
He has not been charged with any of this nor do the courts even know about it. There is far more to this story than you know, I hope he rots in jail forever and I hope he never gets out. he told Frank and Victor he had death certificates waiting for them that was how he manipulated them.

Thank You for listening! More will come out of this but it wasn't a couple of creeps it was one man masterminding what he was doing and pulling this friends and family into it. Unfortunately the way it is portrayed in this article makes it look one sided and it is not how things went down.

Since: May 08

Covina

#13 Aug 19, 2008
To "response to your comments"
Thousand Oaks, CA, poster:
Your comments show were obviously conned by this Martin scum. Sorry that your family is having a hard time because of him. But I'm a bit lost...how could a seemingly intelligent 42 yr. old man (Frank) believe the Homeland Security fable this Pelayo jerk was putting out there? I mean, you'd really want to make some in-depth inquiries around to see if this guy (and his story) was legit, wouldn't you? Just because someone talks a good game and throws an "official" looking document in front of you doesn't mean it is (official). I just think perhaps Frank should have been more suspicious and wary as this plan progressed farther.
Not my issue but

Sun Valley, CA

#14 Aug 19, 2008
Shreks Girl wrote:
To "response to your comments"
Thousand Oaks, CA, poster:
Your comments show were obviously conned by this Martin scum. Sorry that your family is having a hard time because of him. But I'm a bit lost...how could a seemingly intelligent 42 yr. old man (Frank) believe the Homeland Security fable this Pelayo jerk was putting out there? I mean, you'd really want to make some in-depth inquiries around to see if this guy (and his story) was legit, wouldn't you? Just because someone talks a good game and throws an "official" looking document in front of you doesn't mean it is (official). I just think perhaps Frank should have been more suspicious and wary as this plan progressed farther.
Sherks girl:
You'd be amazed at what some otherwise intelligent people will believe when coaxed.
This thread: http://www.topix.com/forum/city/long-beach-ca...

is a perfect example of what an educated Long Beach Superior Court Judge believed when a dirty cop went to her with an email his victim sent to himself, and told her it came from his x girlrriend to get an arrest.

She's an educated woman, however the email in question was in the name of the fake victim's co-worker, the detective lied to the judge and told her that his victim's x g/f sent it. No proof, not one shred of truth and totally illogical because the x g/f didn't even know who this guy was.... the Judge, a presumedly intellegent woman in a high level position, supposedly experianced in matters of Domestic Violence, family law etc... actually went along with this fabricated planted, manufactured evidence.

It just goes to show you, some people will believe anything with enough conviction behind it.
You get someone who represents himself as a piller of the community, a legal representative etc.. and even the most intelligent people can be snowed.
It happens all the time. In every city across the nation.
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Oxnard, CA

#15 Aug 20, 2008
Yes this is exactly the problem with this case. It is hard to believe an intelligent man could get dooped by such a guy. First of all Martin worked at the studios in security, hence you would think he had been background checked by that company as he was guarding stars and important people. It isn't easy to get into the studios and that proved a sense of credibility. All along he was able to wiggle around his stories and validate what he was saying just enough to make things believable, Frank didn't know law enforcement he was relying on his new employer to teach him. His stories started out small and over time they grew larger and more complex. He was using the state and federal buildings for validation to Frank and the other families. Frank was questioning who Martin was as well. He contacted the FBI, 2 detectives, several police officers talked to a variety of people out there to see if Martin was legit, guess what no one would come forward and say one way or the other who this guy was and since he claimed to Frank he was "Homeland Security" it was hard to check on him. What office do you call that will disclose this type of information on a fellow officer? No one, he was told because unless it was a case handled by that particular office employees were not allowed to check or say anything. Then another person tried to check and the jumber given to them was FBI supposedly Martin ended up being on the other end of the phone validating his own existence to his false qualifications. He had himself well covered in the eyes of who he was scamming. Another example, he claimed to be friends of the Chief of police in Simi, so you would assume that going to the Chief with an issue related to Martin and they were friends wouldn't do any good because they were connected. Martins tactics were brutal. He told the guys they had death certificates hanging over their heads any time they would be taken out. At another time he said his kids had been killed and Frank having two children was scared for his own family, fear was used as a manipulator. Frank is also ADHD and has had some major head injuries due to a past car accident he lacks the ability to discern at times and has a lack of judgement he was totally convinced he was going into Homeland Security and was being trained by following this guy around. The way the article is portrayed is so different than it is. Franks involvement was extremely minimal and directed soley by Martin yet the woman writing the article shows him as the first person stated and as equally involved this is totally untrue, she has jeopardized him now in his career and in jail he is no longer safe after this article came out yesterday. He has not been convicted and he was in the wrong place at the wrong time and Martin had him convinced he was the leader and he was a new employee and he believed him there is plenty of paperwork on the months of gathering reference letters, writing bodyguard paperwork, being sent to the Sheriffs training facility etc. Martin should never be let out on the street again. Frank has never been a thief, a criminal, a good father to his children. He has always helped everyone he could he just made a very poor choice and now he is paying dearly for it. Most likely due to this article he will never have a fair day in trial. things were not this bad until the judge changed the charges after the pre trial and raised the bail amounts. He pulled Frank deep into this mess when he did ever plan to commit a crime nor would he ever consider being that type of man. He is stuck in the system and it is easier to bury someone that see the truth.
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Oxnard, CA

#16 Aug 20, 2008
I think we are raised to look up to law enforcement. Anyone with a badge, a uniform, earns immediate respect yet we are seeing cops, detectives etc. being charged with child porn and molestation, bank robbery and the like recently. The increase of scamming has gone way up or maybe I am just onto it now. I have had people try to do the identity theft on me, and my debit card and pin were skimmed so fraud is out there in every form. I don't trust anyone on the phone anymore who calls me.

There needs to be a semblence of trust to do business with people one way we do this is with identification and uniform. Frank had a Loss Prevention badge in his pocket, not displayed not that he was flashing around, loss prevention is a K-Mart Security badge yet lets stretch the truth and call it impersonating an officer!
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Oxnard, CA

#17 Aug 20, 2008
Innocent people can easily fall prey if they have never been exposed to the criminal element. This is a perfectly good example of this, Frank was a line firefighter, a master tile man and a set medic he never would jeopardize his career, his family, or his job to go fleece poor hispanic families. If he was meant for a life of crime he would have done it before he lived in a big house with money in the bank account and making so much per year. Martin on the other hand was supporting an illegal family and his own dad was dooped into thinking he has become a sheriff, Martin had a photo created for him on photoshop by one of his hispanic friends.

Since: May 08

Covina

#18 Aug 21, 2008
This Martin jerk sounds like a real piece of work! He was working at studios as security? Wow, that's scary..he more than likely got that job to make him feel important, and to also possibly gain access to sensitive information. Sounds like a wanna-be who was just dirty all around. I hope he is prosecuted to the full extent of the law, as well as pay restitution to all his victims.
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Oxnard, CA

#19 Aug 21, 2008
I agree, I can't even begin to rebuild what he has done to me and my family after this. He has taken so much and caused financial devastation I need an attorney to help me dig out of this mess. My entire retirement is gone I am hanging onto my home by a thread and our assets are gone and in the hands of Martins family. I wish someone would investigate them but by now I am sure they sent the money to Mexico and in a safe account somewhere non accessible to anyone in the states. He operated in cash and money grams and had contacts in culacan sp? Martin had a huge ego said he was this and that, He has no thought about peoples feelings or what he was doing to all of us, no remorse yet he can turn on the alligator tears to get you to believe him and play on your emotions. If two people were in a snow storm Martin would take the clothes off another mans back and sit there and let him freeze after he gave him a grand story and justified it as to why he needed your clothes. He used a sense of urgency and fear to get whatever he wanted and he got it out of allot more people I think this needs further investigation.
A MEDIC

Marina Del Rey, CA

#21 Oct 8, 2008
HI I'VE WORKED WITH MR KEGEL IN THE PAST AND FOR YOUR INFORMATION, I DIDN'T TRUST HIM. HE MAY HAVE PLAYED HIS ROLE AND HOME LIFE WELL AS HUSBAND AND WIFE, AND YES HE PROVIDED WELL, OF COURSE HE HAD TO SCREW PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR JOBS TO DO THIS! WELL I ALWAYS HOPED KARMA WOULD GET HIM FOR LYING HIS WAY INTO MY JOB..HE WAS VERY CONVINCING ALSO. SO HE GOT MY JOB. THIS MAN COST ME ALOT BECAUSE OF MY LOSING THIS JOB AND ALL I CAN CONTRIBUTE TO THIS BLOG IS...."I WAS TOLD BY MANY FELLOW WORKERS THAT ONE DAY KARMA WILL GET FRANK"....YIPPY...THANK YOU KARMA!!!

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