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Experts see parallels between Rosemead Wal-Mart and effort to stop ...

There are 299 comments on the San Gabriel Valley Tribune story from Oct 9, 2010, titled Experts see parallels between Rosemead Wal-Mart and effort to stop .... In it, San Gabriel Valley Tribune reports that:

While opponents of the latest Azusa Rock Quarry mining plan have collected enough signatures to take the matter before voters, some experts believe the effort could backfire.

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Van Tassel Dust

Azusa, CA

#1 Oct 10, 2010
I fail to see the parallels between a Wal-Mart being built and a mountain being destroyed. Rezone the land usage for no further mining, seems like the city council rezoned the Azusa Gun club and closed that.
Joe moma

Ontario, CA

#2 Oct 10, 2010
It's their property you job killers !, That's what they do is MINE. If you don't like it then move, that pit has been there for many years long before these developers built homes, condo's apartments ect. They have the right to mine the property that they own period. I don't like it when these tree huggers move in and then try to change what has been going on for over fifty years just because they don't like dust, noise, and the landscape change...because they like to walk on trails that BELONG to the mining companies. Go get a life and walk on the beach.
Joe moma

Ontario, CA

#3 Oct 10, 2010
Van Tassel Dust wrote:
I fail to see the parallels between a Wal-Mart being built and a mountain being destroyed. Rezone the land usage for no further mining, seems like the city council rezoned the Azusa Gun club and closed that.
Uh, you must be blind. They are talking about going to court and the court upholding the develope rights,it could very be that the courts will uphold all rights of mining as Vulcan owns all of the property and could kill off any rights for passage and could allow them to mine both east and west sides. In addition to unrestricted mining of any part of their property.
My Assistant

Covina, CA

#4 Oct 10, 2010
The mining company has the right to mine on THEIR land, whether it's on the east or west side of THEIR land. Their offers to re-vegetate & repair the mountainside is a great (ALBEIT UN-REQUIRED) offer while still giving Azusa tax benefits - which they NEED.
After all is said & done, after all the whining is over, legal papers filed, & motions heard, they STILL will mine there because they have the RIGHT TO MINE ON THEIR LAND.
Let's face it, how many of us are planning to tear down our homes & restore the land to how it looked before we put up all these houses? So all these hippocrates claiming it's ruining nature got NO complaint!
Being a society with residential, commercial, agricultural, & industrial areas is complex - get real.
Azusa Resident

Baldwin Park, CA

#5 Oct 10, 2010
I understand both side's views. However, Azusa needs the jobs, taxes, and industry. Do you want to import everything from China, and export more jobs? I will vote in favor of the Azusa City council, and for Vulcan. My guess is that most people will vote against the expanded mining, and any benefits will likewise be lost. Typical California thinking.....cut off the ear to spite the face...
Aztec Alumni

Azusa, CA

#6 Oct 10, 2010
We look to our leaders to rescind their decision. Joe Mama you jackass, there are no Azusa jobs up there. No one cares about the pits, it's our mountains that we have to look at on a daily basis that we care about. I'd like to hug your neck, not a tree. Keep telling us there's nothing we can do and watch what happens.
Aztec Alumni

Azusa, CA

#7 Oct 10, 2010
the word was jac kass
Resident

Azusa, CA

#8 Oct 10, 2010
My Assistant wrote:
The mining company has the right to mine on THEIR land, whether it's on the east or west side of THEIR land. Their offers to re-vegetate & repair the mountainside is a great (ALBEIT UN-REQUIRED) offer while still giving Azusa tax benefits - which they NEED.
After all is said & done, after all the whining is over, legal papers filed, & motions heard, they STILL will mine there because they have the RIGHT TO MINE ON THEIR LAND.
Let's face it, how many of us are planning to tear down our homes & restore the land to how it looked before we put up all these houses? So all these hippocrates claiming it's ruining nature got NO complaint!
Being a society with residential, commercial, agricultural, & industrial areas is complex - get real.
Sixty years of reclamation requirements and promises and what do we see, nothing but destruction and waste. Theres no houses up there stupid. We are being real, we do not want that damned mining anymore get that through your fat head.

Since: Feb 10

Azusa, CA

#9 Oct 10, 2010
Import aggregate from China?
Lives here

Azusa, CA

#10 Oct 10, 2010
Azusa Resident wrote:
I understand both side's views. However, Azusa needs the jobs, taxes, and industry. Do you want to import everything from China, and export more jobs? I will vote in favor of the Azusa City council, and for Vulcan. My guess is that most people will vote against the expanded mining, and any benefits will likewise be lost. Typical California thinking.....cut off the ear to spite the face...
China? Have your lost your mind? Seven local plants owned by Vulcan alone and rocks galore all over the place. Stop destroying our mountains for profit. Mine where the sun don't shine.

Since: Feb 10

Azusa, CA

#11 Oct 10, 2010
"Delach also questioned whether voters had a right to challenge Vulcan's longstanding rights to mine rock from the area."

Interesting.

Since: Feb 10

Azusa, CA

#12 Oct 10, 2010
The quarry predates the city. While city officials claim they instituted tough standards and restrictions on the mining company, most of the power lies with Vulcan, Sutton said.

"The city is trying to create the feeling they are being tough ... but really they have limited avenues of attack," he said. "Behind the scenes the lawyers are telling them they don't really have any authority."

More interesting.

Since: Feb 10

Azusa, CA

#13 Oct 10, 2010
Fran Delach, Azusa City Manager:

"I think the city and council were very clear all along that this issue was never amount mining or no mining. It was about mining with improved environmental mitigation versus mining the same way it has been done," Delach said. "It is our belief, that a lot of people signed the referendum thinking they were going to be able to stop mining. Even if the city attorney were wrong, they could mine to the east. They are not going to stop mining."

Canyon City Alliance, a coalition including Vulcan Materials, the Azusa Chamber of Commerce and the Azusa Police Officers Assn.:

"If these outside interest groups get their way and STOP THE MINING in our city, Azusa could lose 65 MILLION!"

Hmmm, I wonder where those people would get THAT idea? From people who work for the City?

“The Ravaged Canyon City”

Since: Feb 10

Azusa

#14 Oct 10, 2010
Like it or not, the fact is that it is now in the hands of the people. I sense that the residents of Azusa have been bullied by the various owners of the mine over the decades and are tired of it. We can call each other names and defend our stands, or we can work together to see that the will of the people is respected. We need have no fear for the lack of granite, for it is the most common base rock on the planet. The days of the old west are over except for Golden Days events. Let us look to a new day without strip mining and without the destruction of the face of our city. Let us work together to do "what cannot be done".

“The Ravaged Canyon City”

Since: Feb 10

Azusa

#15 Oct 10, 2010
"The difficult we do at once, the impossible takes a little longer" USMC

Since: Feb 10

Azusa, CA

#16 Oct 10, 2010
How did you know I was a daughter of a Marine Corps Officer?
Joe moma

Ontario, CA

#17 Oct 10, 2010
Aztec Alumni wrote:
We look to our leaders to rescind their decision. Joe Mama you ****, there are no Azusa jobs up there. No one cares about the pits, it's our mountains that we have to look at on a daily basis that we care about. I'd like to hug your neck, not a tree. Keep telling us there's nothing we can do and watch what happens.
Do you even have any knowlege of what products are produced from what they mine...? I doubt it very much. Everything you touch, eat, drive on, live under comes from these guy's mining that land of which THEY OWN ! Don't like then move ! J A C A S S
Joe moma

Ontario, CA

#18 Oct 10, 2010
I hope it goes to court ! You tree huggers will lose BIG TIME !
Joe moma

Ontario, CA

#19 Oct 10, 2010
You can't just run all the employers out of town and then cry "we have no jobs" These guy's provide a ton of jobs that don't just stop at the mining doors.
GET A BETTER ATTORNEY

Pasadena, CA

#20 Oct 10, 2010
The Azusa City Council has failed its residents. Please get a better attorney who will put Vulcan in their place. Where is Erin Brockovich's attorney? Someone who is not afraid to stand up to a big corporation that is dictating the lives and taking advantage of a community. We don't have to put up with Vulcan, stop being their puppets. I'm not naive, don't accept this! Do something about it for your kids and grand kids.

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