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Task force jails couple in OxyContin inquiry

There are 44 comments on the Marin Independent Journal story from Feb 19, 2010, titled Task force jails couple in OxyContin inquiry. In it, Marin Independent Journal reports that:

County drug investigators arrested two Novato residents on suspicion of selling OxyContin, the powerful prescription painkiller, a sheriff's official said.

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Scarface

Santa Maria, CA

#1 Feb 20, 2010
They captured the Cartel. Nice bust! Fund the program! I feel so safe knowing their capturing the Top Drug Dealers. Lets all celebrate this fine piece of police
work. I'll buy the first round at Matuccis!! Let me guess--the pills were stolen from their parents drug cabinet?
Batman

San Rafael, CA

#2 Feb 20, 2010
When they were arrested did they have Rush on the radio?
Press 6 for English

San Jose, CA

#3 Feb 20, 2010
I just wish they're haul off the illegal day laborers hanging out on Redwood. Plus the MS-13 guys. Of course, that would put them in danger.

Rule number one: Get home alive.
Pot Smoking Moronite

Pilot Hill, CA

#4 Feb 20, 2010
Batman wrote:
When they were arrested did they have Rush on the radio?
No, I talked to the professional nurse, who happened to be walking by. Nurse said they had NPR on. Sorry, nice try!
blah blah blah

Sacramento, CA

#5 Feb 20, 2010
Where in the hell are they getting these pills?
Get them gone

United States

#6 Feb 20, 2010
blah blah blah wrote:
Where in the hell are they getting these pills?
They get them from the illegal aliens and sell them to fund gang activities.
BGHOZ

Hayward, CA

#7 Feb 20, 2010
blah blah blah wrote:
Where in the hell are they getting these pills?
I read an article on this as becoming a big problem for the youngsters in Marin...apparently they are getting them out of the med.cabnets of their grandparents
house because it's perscribed to elderly for controlling pain.I hear that ONE pill can
fetch up to $40 bucks on the streets.The other thing the article mentioned is that re-hab.is making a mint off of underaged addicts....what a racket.
Unbelievable

Novato, CA

#8 Feb 20, 2010
It seems our town is going downhill at a rapid pace. Cruise by Center place....and they are outside asking if you want Oxy...711 and the kids are terrorizing the adults behind the counter. The illegals are stepping into the street to stop vehicles for work. Gang bangers are ripping off our cars! What happened to our town? Thank you for one less problem!
Jake

San Francisco, CA

#11 Feb 20, 2010
They made SEVERAL purchases? Sounds like some law enforcement officers are getting high on the tax payers dime. One purchase would have been sufficient to charge them with the same crime(s). Good thing we're running record surpluses otherwise this might seem wasteful and frivolous.
SamJr1872

San Francisco, CA

#12 Feb 20, 2010
"The drug unit initiated the arrests after making several undercover OxyContin purchases from the suspects over the past month"

I sure hope they were undercover, otherwise these would be the dumbest drug dealers I've ever heard of. "Do you know why I pulled you over, sir?", "No officer", "I want to buy some Oxy, give me what I need!"
Pot Smoking Moronite

Pilot Hill, CA

#13 Feb 20, 2010
Jake wrote:
They made SEVERAL purchases? Sounds like some law enforcement officers are getting high on the tax payers dime. One purchase would have been sufficient to charge them with the same crime(s). Good thing we're running record surpluses otherwise this might seem wasteful and frivolous.
Uh, yea, right. It sounds like you really know what you're talking about. Ever been a district attorney, defense attorney, policeman, professional nurse?.......I didn't think so.
we the

Novato, CA

#14 Feb 20, 2010
SamJr1872 wrote:
"The drug unit initiated the arrests after making several undercover OxyContin purchases from the suspects over the past month"
I sure hope they were undercover, otherwise these would be the dumbest drug dealers I've ever heard of. "Do you know why I pulled you over, sir?", "No officer", "I want to buy some Oxy, give me what I need!"
Are you that stupid that you would ask a question like that? God bless this country as not many fools like you
longtime resident

Novato, CA

#15 Feb 20, 2010
Press 6 for English wrote:
I just wish they're haul off the illegal day laborers hanging out on Redwood. Plus the MS-13 guys. Of course, that would put them in danger.
Rule number one: Get home alive.
I agree...but let us be glad for this good arrest!
we the

Livermore, CA

#16 Feb 20, 2010
Jake wrote:
They made SEVERAL purchases? Sounds like some law enforcement officers are getting high on the tax payers dime. One purchase would have been sufficient to charge them with the same crime(s). Good thing we're running record surpluses otherwise this might seem wasteful and frivolous.
that would also mean other non cops could have been buying the drugs during the cops waiting to bust the suspects

call it the cops drug complex leaving know drug dealers on the street to deal drugs as the cops wait tyo arrets the suspects leacving the marin residents freiends familties to buy drugs

sould like a very owfull policy by the cops
Ponder This

Nicasio, CA

#17 Feb 20, 2010
blah blah blah wrote:
Where in the hell are they getting these pills?
Your question is a good one, and it deserves a more complete answer than the true, but limited answers by others who simply say they are taken from their parent's medicine cabinets. The larger danger is that there is a very active, successful network of people who "Doc Shop" to acquire presriptions for this drug. They are visiting MDs throughout all the counties in the Bay area, complaining of work-related pain, thus portraying it as a pain that will not eventually subside, like a form of post surgical pain will, and obtaining sufficient quantities for themselves, and for re-sale.

A major contribution to the problem is that the users and sellers belong to labor unions that protect them by hiring outside contractors to conduct drug tests. The employees who use Oxy, and other drugs, purchase synthetic urine, and, while out of sight of the drug test coordinator (the union regulations demand that they p** in a cup without ever being seen) they pour in the fake urine that they have been holding next to their bodies for hours. Why can they hold it next to their bodies for hours? Because the drug tests are announced, usually days in advance, and they are well prepared.

There is an "Oxy-Culture" of unionized workers, primarily in a "good-old-boy" heavy machinary labor force in the Bay area. Oxy is like another currency among them. They are a significant source of the problem, because they sell their pills to others. If the unions conducted totally spontaneous P-Tests, many of these jerks who traffic in and take Oxy would P dirty. Of course, the guys who have prescriptions would be ok. The unions or compnanies never investigate personal drug usage unless there is an injury, and these guys protect each other to preserve their network. Vicodin is also involved in this whole scene. I have heard reports of workers nodding out on the job.
BGHOZ

Hayward, CA

#18 Feb 20, 2010
Ponder This wrote:
<quoted text>
Your question is a good one, and it deserves a more complete answer than the true, but limited answers by others who simply say they are taken from their parent's medicine cabinets. The larger danger is that there is a very active, successful network of people who "Doc Shop" to acquire presriptions for this drug. They are visiting MDs throughout all the counties in the Bay area, complaining of work-related pain, thus portraying it as a pain that will not eventually subside, like a form of post surgical pain will, and obtaining sufficient quantities for themselves, and for re-sale.
A major contribution to the problem is that the users and sellers belong to labor unions that protect them by hiring outside contractors to conduct drug tests. The employees who use Oxy, and other drugs, purchase synthetic urine, and, while out of sight of the drug test coordinator (the union regulations demand that they p** in a cup without ever being seen) they pour in the fake urine that they have been holding next to their bodies for hours. Why can they hold it next to their bodies for hours? Because the drug tests are announced, usually days in advance, and they are well prepared.
There is an "Oxy-Culture" of unionized workers, primarily in a "good-old-boy" heavy machinary labor force in the Bay area. Oxy is like another currency among them. They are a significant source of the problem, because they sell their pills to others. If the unions conducted totally spontaneous P-Tests, many of these jerks who traffic in and take Oxy would P dirty. Of course, the guys who have prescriptions would be ok. The unions or compnanies never investigate personal drug usage unless there is an injury, and these guys protect each other to preserve their network. Vicodin is also involved in this whole scene. I have heard reports of workers nodding out on the job.
You just updated some useful information...Now, let's get the medical community involved to
stop this problem shall we?
Ponder This

Nicasio, CA

#19 Feb 20, 2010
I should clarify two earlier statements. It is the companies, themselves, that should conduct "unannounced" drug tests of their employees, not the unions to which their workers belong. But the unions are inadvertently contributing to the problem because they have made sure through their "worker privacy rules' that workers cannot be observed closely enough when P tested, allowing the user to use fake urine.

The sad and shocking thing is that Oxy has also become a huge blue-collar family plague. It is often referred to as "hillbilly heroin." Even sadder, and nobody seems to know exactly why, the synthetic opiates are reportedly much harder to quit. Many users try to wean themselves off Oxy with Suboxone. The Marin addiction programs are very familiar with this method, and, as another post reports, they are doing big business.
Ponder This

Nicasio, CA

#20 Feb 20, 2010
BGHOZ wrote:
<quoted text>You just updated some useful information...Now, let's get the medical community involved to
stop this problem shall we?
The only major way of supervising the dispensation of drugs that currently exists is through computer-connected, inner-pharmacy records. Foe example, if I went into a Longs, CVS or Rite-Aid to fill a script for Oxy on Monday, then tried to do the same thing at the same company, but in a different location, on Thursday, the computer would report excessive attempted submission of a presription for Oxy, and deny me. Thus, these Doc Shoppers rotate pharmacies, every 30 - 90 days. But they may visit two or three differnt doctors a month! The various doctors' offices do not communicate with each other, so your idea of getting the medical community involved, while a good one, is simply not currently possible, to my knowledge. As is stands right now, pharmacists are the only people policing presription abuse, and only because they have centralized records.
BGHOZ

Hayward, CA

#21 Feb 20, 2010
Ponder This wrote:
<quoted text>
The only major way of supervising the dispensation of drugs that currently exists is through computer-connected, inner-pharmacy records. Foe example, if I went into a Longs, CVS or Rite-Aid to fill a script for Oxy on Monday, then tried to do the same thing at the same company, but in a different location, on Thursday, the computer would report excessive attempted submission of a presription for Oxy, and deny me. Thus, these Doc Shoppers rotate pharmacies, every 30 - 90 days. But they may visit two or three differnt doctors a month! The various doctors' offices do not communicate with each other, so your idea of getting the medical community involved, while a good one, is simply not currently possible, to my knowledge. As is stands right now, pharmacists are the only people policing presription abuse, and only because they have centralized records.
Great community advocacy, good info. and hopefully the folks that are involved in that transaction
are paying attention...great suggestion and it makes sense to me.
Koalabear2525

Oakland, CA

#22 Feb 20, 2010
so how did the young lady / girl get hold of the drug . who was her dealer . round them up also . if parents are in it put them in the slammer also. so how much money was spent before you pick them up. be nice to them now after all they were dumb and stupid send them to school nto learn to get a job

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