Saturday Readers' Forum

Saturday Readers' Forum

There are 21 comments on the Marin Independent Journal story from May 15, 2010, titled Saturday Readers' Forum. In it, Marin Independent Journal reports that:

Governments in California are in big financial trouble. Some of them are close to bankruptcy.

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HowSoon

Santa Clara, CA

#1 May 15, 2010
Dear Rachelle Marshall: How soon can you move to Afghanistan? You would probably like Yemen too.
Official Moronite

Martinez, CA

#2 May 15, 2010
"But when I come home to Marin, I see a place that hasn't changed a whole lot since when I grew up here in the 1970s".

Were you here in the decades prior to and after the 70's?
I was (and still am).
THIS PLACE HAS CHANGED BIG TIME! MUCH more traffic people, "attitudes", and lets not forget the taxpayer supported illegal population.
It is a very different place.
And I am afraid I would have to say more negative than positive.
Say No

Oakland, CA

#3 May 15, 2010
Shedding responsibility is most likely the reason that the Novato Sanitary District wants to contract out The operation & maintenance of their new plant. If cost was the primary consideration, the existing district employees would be maintaining & operating the new plant. How are you going to get transparency and accountability from a 12 billion dollar, France based company?(Veolia)
Susan

Fairfax, CA

#4 May 15, 2010
I agree with Official Moronite...I've been here since 1965 and Marin has changed a lot just as OM said. I still love Marin, but it's not as wonderful as it once was.

And Rachelle, wow. Scary that you really believe what you write. How skewered and one-sided. Been at the Liberal Koo-Aid trough too long.

Thank God we have President Obama at the helm, with and intelligent and balanced view of things.
Gotcha

Mill Valley, CA

#5 May 15, 2010
In regards to when the housing and jobs will come for the homeless population...maybe the best idea would be for the homeless to all officially change their names to Diaz, Rodriguez, Perez...you get the idea. Then they will never want for anything it will be handed to them on a silver platter. They will be bowed down to, given money, housing, food, loans, cars, have laws changed for them.
from Richmond re Veolia

Rodeo, CA

#6 May 15, 2010
If you want to criticize Veolia, its not fair to use Richmond as an example. Veolia has done a superb job in Richmond, a vast improvement of the previous situation.
Boiler Plate Letters

San Rafael, CA

#7 May 15, 2010
The Board of Supervisors vote for the Baylands Corridor and the new policies for St Vincent's/Silveira was
unanimous. Every member of the BOS can make the same "political puffing"claim made by the letter writer for Supervisor Adams---
that somehow Adam's values are unique. Protecting Marin's special lands is a Marin tradition and a requirement for
running for any Marin political office. The work on the Baylands Corridor and the protections needed for the St. Vincent's Silveira/Lands
took place long before Adams arrived on the scene. All that was required was that she go along with the values of the county
and join the other four Supervisors and vote for the Baylands Corridor and the Countywide Plan Policies related to development on the SV/S lands.
There is nothing politically unique about Adams vote.

The Adams/Mazzoni race for Supervisor is not about the value of protecting Marin's land heritage.
It is, as Adams herself has stated, about jobs and the economy and, centrally, about leadership style.
And, leadership is a unique skill. There is a stark contrast between the leadership styles of Adams and Mazzoni.
Adams style is to control the process and separate out those who disagree. Mazzoni's style is to work collaboratively
with all the participating stakeholders and seek solutions which respond to the range of needs. Leadership has consequences.
Examine the major issues facing the County and the District One neighborhoods and you can see the consequences
of a control and divide style of leadership. If you are happy with the status quo then you should vote for Adams---
outcomes will not change. If you want a new leadership direction for addressing the jobs and economy issues and the problems facing the neighborhoods
then vote for Mazzoni. But don't vote on the belief that one candidate better represents Marin's values for protecting
Marin's unique environment. The vote of the BOS is unanimous on this value---it is one shared by all of Marin.
Say No

Oakland, CA

#8 May 15, 2010
Gotcha wrote:
In regards to when the housing and jobs will come for the homeless population...maybe the best idea would be for the homeless to all officially change their names to Diaz, Rodriguez, Perez...you get the idea. Then they will never want for anything it will be handed to them on a silver platter. They will be bowed down to, given money, housing, food, loans, cars, have laws changed for them.
Don't forget about the ivy league, college education.
Say No

Oakland, CA

#9 May 15, 2010
from Richmond re Veolia wrote:
If you want to criticize Veolia, its not fair to use Richmond as an example. Veolia has done a superb job in Richmond, a vast improvement of the previous situation.
My only point was that N.S.D. should take responsibility for their own plant and have their own employees maintain & operate it. In doing so, it would be much more cost-efficient!
Nobama

Mill Valley, CA

#10 May 15, 2010
Susan wrote:
I agree with Official Moronite...I've been here since 1965 and Marin has changed a lot just as OM said. I still love Marin, but it's not as wonderful as it once was.
And Rachelle, wow. Scary that you really believe what you write. How skewered and one-sided. Been at the Liberal Koo-Aid trough too long.
Thank God we have President Obama at the helm, with and intelligent and balanced view of things.
I've been
here since August of 1963, and this -- in no way -- resembles the
Marin that was. It's frightening that Rachelle actually believes
the twaddle she wrote. I understand that with time comes change.
Its inevitable. But, from what I've seen, a heaping percentage
of the "change" I've seen sukcs out loud. I can walk 3 blocks
and feel as though I'm in Tijuana, not San Rafael anymore, or
find ANY upright structure that hasn't been "tagged". Nope -
sorry, but most of the change hasn't been good or beneficial.
Nobama

Mill Valley, CA

#11 May 15, 2010
Gotcha wrote:
In regards to when the housing and jobs will come for the homeless population...maybe the best idea would be for the homeless to all officially change their names to Diaz, Rodriguez, Perez...you get the idea. Then they will never want for anything it will be handed to them on a silver platter. They will be bowed down to, given money, housing, food, loans, cars, have laws changed for them.
No Chit. Jor right, mang .......
Member

San Francisco, CA

#12 May 15, 2010
Say No wrote:
<quoted text>My only point was that N.S.D. should take responsibility for their own plant and have their own employees maintain & operate it. In doing so, it would be much more cost-efficient!
You baldly claim that in-house employees would be more cost-efficient, without any backup. NSD had an independent study done, had the study peer-reviewed three times, and has published the study on their website for the opponents to pick at. That study said that the district could save money by hiring a contract operations firm, and Veolia's competitive price bid last July verified it. You have a bald claim. Why should I believe you?
Sewer Guy

Gilroy, CA

#13 May 15, 2010
The Novato Sanitary District IS taking responsibility for operating its plant by contracting with Veolia for the needed expertise. The current employees have no experience with the new processes and they have a poor track record operating the existing plant. This is neither oursourcing (the sewage and the jobs stay right here!) nor privatization (the District owns the plant and is in ultimate control).

Richmond was a total disaster when Veolia took over. It has been improving ever since. Read the letter published in the Novato Advance from Novato's city councilman re the details. And compare NSD's violation record to Veolia. NSD is worse!

Contracting operations saves money, it does not cost money. In fact, it was expected to save $7.2 million over 5 years when the contract was signed. The savings is a result of increased competence (and a very competitive bidding environment).

And Veolia is contractually liable for fines and penalties resulting from any inadequate performance on their part. The current employees can not take on such liability.

The people of Novato have invested $90 million in a new wastewater treatment plant. Let's not squander that investment by failing to provide for competent operation.

Vote yes on F.
Solution for Illegals

Mill Valley, CA

#14 May 16, 2010
Gotcha wrote:
In regards to when the housing and jobs will come for the homeless population...maybe the best idea would be for the homeless to all officially change their names to Diaz, Rodriguez, Perez...you get the idea. Then they will never want for anything it will be handed to them on a silver platter. They will be bowed down to, given money, housing, food, loans, cars, have laws changed for them.
I just finished reading "The Good Soldiers". Great non-fiction book about the horrors of the Iraq "war".

One of the reasons this country can continue to depend on a "volunteer military" is because in many cases, these young voluteers cannot find jobs at home that pay a living wage which will support their families.

Downward pressure on US wages is due to illegals.

If illegals want to come here, they should be sentenced to serve in IRAQ. Our young Citizens should not have to die or end up living for the rest of their lives with horrible physical and mental injuries so that illegals can live here and take their jobs.
Seriously Agree

Grass Valley, CA

#15 May 16, 2010
Nobama wrote:
<quoted text> No Chit. Jor right, mang .......
Now that there is funny...not to mention right on. Great quote right out of Scarface.
You hit it mang.
WAT

United States

#16 May 16, 2010
Solution for Illegals wrote:
<quoted text>
I just finished reading "The Good Soldiers". Great non-fiction book about the horrors of the Iraq "war".
One of the reasons this country can continue to depend on a "volunteer military" is because in many cases, these young voluteers cannot find jobs at home that pay a living wage which will support their families.
Downward pressure on US wages is due to illegals.
If illegals want to come here, they should be sentenced to serve in IRAQ. Our young Citizens should not have to die or end up living for the rest of their lives with horrible physical and mental injuries so that illegals can live here and take their jobs.


You couldn't be further from the truth.

The war(s) are about global economic imperialism, the system of globalaization is responsible for depressed wages world wide and the widening gap between those that have and those that don't.

Bring the troops home and unionize all worker so they can protect their interests. Fix foreign trade policies and harness corporations that don't benefit the community they serve, where ever they locate.

The recent economic downturn is a direct result of anarchy capitalism that lives off the governments socialist business practices.

Anything else is a fools game based on myth.

“"In dog years, I'm dead."”

Since: Feb 08

Novato

#17 May 16, 2010
Solution for Illegals wrote:
<quoted text>

Downward pressure on US wages is due to illegals.
This is BS. If you want to help the wage/job problem, never ever buy foreign products again. Encourage our country to produce more than it consumes. We once could out produce any country , now we can hardly keep up with most. This will never change as long as we buy from China and japan , ect.... Make it illegal for american companies to set up outside our boarders if you want jobs here.
Berkeley nutz

Novato, CA

#18 May 16, 2010
Say No wrote:
Shedding responsibility is most likely the reason that the Novato Sanitary District wants to contract out The operation & maintenance of their new plant. If cost was the primary consideration, the existing district employees would be maintaining & operating the new plant. How are you going to get transparency and accountability from a 12 billion dollar, France based company?(Veolia)
Oh Thou in thy hallowed Berkeley ivory tower, we in the Marin Appalachia bow down to thy superior and all-knowing intellect and knowledge that let you reach such lofty conclusions without the benefit of any research. Now, at the very least, do thyself a favor and take thyself and thy two brain cells over to the sanitary district's website and the reams of background material on transparency and accountability publicly available and published there.
Why

Ross, CA

#19 May 17, 2010
Rachelle Marshall seeks the truth. 911 changed everything for us. Ask yourself why. Be honest with yourself. Really search for the answer. Why.

Why did they do that? It was a question steadily ignored. But we must ask this question - because the solution lies within.

Forget the buzz words and media spin. Start thinking for yourself. Research and become informed.
real opinion

Santa Maria, CA

#20 May 17, 2010
When I was 17, I spent a summer interning at the Marin County Coroners. It was in the eighty's and Dr. Jindrich was the Coroner.
I was young , naive, thought the world was fair, and didn't have a clue about "the good ole boys network". When I heard he was
running--,"I said to myself--good--someone I trusted is running for a department I've always questioned. Yes--Questioned!
Wether a local police cruiser, or a Sheriffs patrol is in my rear view mirror my anxiety level goes up. I have nothing to hide, but I
know that officer is waiting, sometimes salivating to write a ticket. In my world, their not protectors anymore, their Revenue Collectors.

Why doI feel Ken Holmes might make a difference? Working in the Coroner's office is a job a lot of you wouldn't want. It's not
CSI, or anything like you see on T.V.. You are dealing with death. You are dealing with suicides. You are dealing with
grieving relatives. It's your job to explain why your husband blew his head off with a shot gun, or consoling grieving parents
who lost a child in an auto accident.

Everyone in that office did a stellar job. There were a few conversations I remember having with Ken Holmes--one was about
firearms. Yes-the detectives do carry guns. I asked Ken if he ever need to use it--he stated No. He stated their was one incident where
he needed to show someone he was armed, but just Once--I thought that was a pretty good record.

He chastised me once for laughing at a joke while a grieving family was in an adjoining room. I didn't know their was anyone
in the office besides employees. I was grateful he cared enough about his position to correct my behavior.

Online, much has been made of his credentials. No he dose't have a lot of spinach behind his name, but I found him more than
willing to learn. His opposition has a B.A. Degree from Sonoma State. I have a degree from Sonoma State and I honestly learned more
at Indian Valley College. Ken is a member of Mensa, and the only person I know who can solve the Rubix cube--I think he's more than
capable of handling the job of Sheriff?

But the main reason I'm voting for Ken Holmes is because he was fair; he didn't stereotype, and treated all people the same.

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