Pay cuts sought in public sector

Staff at the Union Rescue Mission downtown and Hope Gardens near Sylmar had a tough choice to make recently: Cut services to the poor and homeless, or take a salary cut and end their 401k matches. Full Story
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George W Bush

United States

#1 Jan 18, 2010
use the homeless and the poor against what is right ...the progressives/liberals have reached a new low and you cant get any lower than them..
Oscar

Las Vegas, NV

#2 Jan 18, 2010
Don't forget Firefighters who get overtime for "Training", and claim an Injury before Retirement to retire at a higher Pension rate, and lower Tax Rate. And they retire at 90% of their working income. So if you play your cards right, and claim a Back Injury, as MANY Firefighters do, then you can make 100K a year for life in Retirement. Also, drop ALL the Handout programs for Illegals. It only attracts MORE Illegals to sneak into the country, if they KNOW they can get handouts, and FREE school lunches and FREE Pell College Grants for their kids. Round up all Illegals, and Cali's state costs for Housing, Welfare, and Prison Space for Illegals and Criminals convicted of DUI's, Murder, Rape, Assault, Robbery, Selling Drugs, Car-Jackings, Child Molestations, Drive-by Shootings will decrease by 25%.
Bees Knees

Studio City, CA

#3 Jan 18, 2010
Next will be Inflation...
dennis

Reseda, CA

#4 Jan 18, 2010
L.A.County's $48 Million Monthly Anchor Baby Tab

Last Updated: Wed, 08/12/2009 - 11:24am

Taxpayers in the nationís most populous county dished out nearly $50 million in a single month to cover only the welfare costs of illegal immigrants, representing a whopping $10 million increase over the same one-month period two years ago.

In June 2009 alone Los Angeles County spent $48 million ($26 million in food stamps and $22 million in welfare) to provide just two of numerous free public services to the children of illegal aliens, which will translate into an annual tab of nearly $600 million for the cash-strapped county.

The figure doesnít even include the exorbitant cost of educating, medically treating or incarcerating illegal aliens in the sprawling county of about 10 million residents. Los Angeles County annually spends more than $1 billion for those combined services, including $400 million for healthcare and $350 million for public safety.

Cut services to the poor and homeless...

move mexico out!!!.......move haiti in!!!
LAresident

San Fernando, CA

#5 Jan 18, 2010
We don't need to cut pay and benefits. We need to tax the rich. They don't pay their fair share
lagriz

Santa Monica, CA

#6 Jan 18, 2010
Finally, some one is making sense. When the largest employer in the state pays salaries far higher than private industry, and offers pensions beyond even the dreams of the successful self employed who pay most of the taxes, and the salary and commission people who struggle from check to check. The civil service has become a cesspool of well paid idleness and make shift jobs for recent college grads who, in an earlier time, would not have qualified to even graduate high school. I say, reduce the salary by 20% and the pension geared to the national average..If they don't like it, many older retired, and well educated people would love the opportunity.
loserantonovich

Brea, CA

#7 Jan 18, 2010
Last week, county Supervisor Michael D. Antonovich called on the governor and state lawmakers to trim its work force and workers' salaries. Why don't you start by cutting your own county employees pay and benefits so you can feed the poor.
bdc

Santa Cruz, CA

#8 Jan 18, 2010
Will you people please get off of it already about the public sector.

It really makes me mad when my partner and barely get by each month, driving two broken down autos (mine is 20 years old), and you people think that public employees make SO much. I promise you, NOT all of them do. Geez, give me a break. We all all just trying to make a living and support our families.

No, we don't go on vacations, or have any extras much at all. We do well to feed ourselves, pay utilities, gas, etc., every month. We struggle to make house payments on a very small house.

Most of us, in this economy are merely trying to get through. So please, until you walk awhile in the shoes of a public service employee, you need to keep your mouth shut.
bdc

Santa Cruz, CA

#9 Jan 18, 2010
And, while I'm at it, if you for one minute think these people don't work hard, you are really mistaken.

Also, we are not young, in our 50's as a matter of fact. Both of us have worked all or our lives - I work for the private sector. I was raised with the protestant work ethic, as was my partner, by strict easterners who did not take handouts.

Geez.
abc

Los Angeles, CA

#10 Jan 18, 2010
lagriz wrote:
Finally, some one is making sense. When the largest employer in the state pays salaries far higher than private industry, and offers pensions beyond even the dreams of the successful self employed who pay most of the taxes, and the salary and commission people who struggle from check to check. The civil service has become a cesspool of well paid idleness and make shift jobs for recent college grads who, in an earlier time, would not have qualified to even graduate high school. I say, reduce the salary by 20% and the pension geared to the national average..If they don't like it, many older retired, and well educated people would love the opportunity.
MAking up stuff like you are is what confuses people. The money is in the private sector, when the state hires consultants to do engineering work for example they pay almost twice as much. That is over 200K per worker, because as you know the private companies are going for profits not state savings
So what savings are you talking about?
lagriz

Santa Monica, CA

#11 Jan 19, 2010
bdc wrote:
Will you people please get off of it already about the public sector.
It really makes me mad when my partner and barely get by each month, driving two broken down autos (mine is 20 years old), and you people think that public employees make SO much. I promise you, NOT all of them do. Geez, give me a break. We all all just trying to make a living and support our families.
No, we don't go on vacations, or have any extras much at all. We do well to feed ourselves, pay utilities, gas, etc., every month. We struggle to make house payments on a very small house.
Most of us, in this economy are merely trying to get through. So please, until you walk awhile in the shoes of a public service employee, you need to keep your mouth shut.
maybethings are different up there in Santa Cruz...but in LA, public "servants" have one of the strongest and corrupt unions as well as service protections with huge perks no private sector employee has...it is time that gravy train ended....
lagriz

Santa Monica, CA

#12 Jan 19, 2010
abc wrote:
<quoted text> MAking up stuff like you are is what confuses people. The money is in the private sector, when the state hires consultants to do engineering work for example they pay almost twice as much. That is over 200K per worker, because as you know the private companies are going for profits not state savings
So what savings are you talking about?
now we are getting somewhere....yes, public officials, ever on the take, farm out the work public servants ( an oxymoron) fail to do or do correctly, and in the process pay you, themselves, and the consultants, who were probably originally civil service to begin with and made a cozy consulting deal....sorry....facts are facts...you can find exceptions to everything, but most public sector workers are paid far, far more than their counterparts in the private sector...salary, health, pension, holidays, job security....take the pay cut or leave. There are many qualified people who would take your place in a moment.
Liz

Los Angeles, CA

#13 Jan 19, 2010
Can we all just get along!. Everybody sounds like a politician in here. Somehow, everybody seems to have the answer to all the problems. Instead of bickering and arguing, why can people be reasonable and come up with excellent ideas, but nooooooo, somehow, somebody wants to be the smart one and start something negative. Turn the tables around and write to congress and let them know your ideas. Isn't that what they're suppose to do? Don't they work for the people? So, if Government is getting the highest pay, then we shall start from top to bottom. Let's start with. the President, V.P, Congress, etc and then the rest of the rats.
old guy

Cypress, CA

#14 Jan 19, 2010
it is only about time...
abc

Los Angeles, CA

#15 Jan 19, 2010
lagriz wrote:
<quoted text>now we are getting somewhere....yes, public officials, ever on the take, farm out the work public servants ( an oxymoron) fail to do or do correctly, and in the process pay you, themselves, and the consultants, who were probably originally civil service to begin with and made a cozy consulting deal....sorry....facts are facts...you can find exceptions to everything, but most public sector workers are paid far, far more than their counterparts in the private sector...salary, health, pension, holidays, job security....take the pay cut or leave. There are many qualified people who would take your place in a moment.
What are all these jobs you talk about? Are you talking about jobs that require no college education? If you are talking about those then, you might know more since I have no experience with those. But if you are talking about jobs that require college education, the money is way higher in private or in the small cities. And no these jobs can't be filled up with people with no education that are willing to get paid minimum wage.
rcradtz

Tustin, CA

#16 Jan 19, 2010
LAresident wrote:
We don't need to cut pay and benefits. We need to tax the rich. They don't pay their fair share
--The"Rich" in California - ARE the government employees !!!
AS Pogo once said " We have foud the enemy - and he is US!!!!"
Fed Up

Los Angeles, CA

#17 Jan 19, 2010
So what are you going to do when there are no taxpayers left to pay for those who either will not or in some cases cannot provide for themselves. The era of the welfare state has been a failure. It is nothing more than a re-distribution of income which is NOT sustainable.
LA Public Servant

Lindsay, CA

#18 Jan 19, 2010
Are you people insane? We can't afford to take a pay cut in these tough economic times. Many of us are struggling just to keep up our mortgage and car payments. The only real solution is to get rid of all these damn illegal Mexicans!
Surly

Fort Wayne, IN

#19 Jan 19, 2010
Sorry Mary, but public employee unions are at the root of the problem in Los Angeles. They have a stranglehold over the entire political process and effectively prevent any real reform from getting done. 90% of the average of the BEST 3 years of a public employees salary as a pension is unsustainable, and is largely what is driving the huge deficits in Los Angeles and California as a whole.
HAHA

Los Angeles, CA

#20 Jan 19, 2010
Cry me a f**king river. When the economy was booming all of you cry babies took private sector jobs making incredibly high salaries and laughed at public servants for their mediocre pay...well how the tables have turned. Too bad I can't take a picture of my middle finger and post it here.

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