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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

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A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#141198 May 14, 2012
The Great Sly_Clyde wrote:
<quoted text>Hey Mona, remember who we are dealing with. Some of these nut jobs think that penguins can fly.
It's hard for me to believe that these nut cases can actually find their ass with both hands.

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#141199 May 14, 2012
The Great Sly_Clyde wrote:
<quoted text>
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Excerpt for reflections of a rock lobster recommended for kindergarten thru 6 grade......

My sexual exploits with my neighborhood playmates continued. I lived a busy homosexual childhood, somehow managing to avoid venereal disease through all my toddler years. By first grade I was sexually active with many friends. In fact, a small group of us regularly met in the grammar school lavatory to perform fellatio on one another. A typical week’s schedule would be Aaron and Michael on Monday during lunch; Michael and Johnny on Tuesday after school; Fred and Timmy at noon Wednesday; Aaron and Timmy after school on Thursday. None of us ever got caught, but we never worried about it anyway. We all understood that what we were doing was not to be discussed freely with adults but we viewed it as a fun sort of confidential activity. None of us had any guilty feelings about it; we figured everyone did it. Why shouldn’t they?

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#141200 May 14, 2012
The Great Sly_Clyde wrote:
Lets take a look at the past and see if precedent has been set shall we. Cool beans, thanks Brian, yer a stand up kinda guy. The first historical mention of the performance of same-sex marriages occurred during the early Roman Empire.[56] For instance, Emperor Nero is reported to have engaged in a marriage ceremony with one of his male slaves. Emperor Elagabalus "married" a Carian slave named Hierocles.[57] It should be noted, however, that conubium existed only between a civis Romanus and a civis Romana (that is, between a male Roman citizen and a female Roman citizen), so that a so-called marriage between two Roman males (or with a slave) would have no legal standing in Roman law (apart, presumably, from the arbitrary will of the emperor in the two aforementioned cases).[58] Furthermore, "matrimonium is an institution involving a mother, mater. The idea implicit in the word is that a man takes a woman in marriage, in matrimonium ducere, so that he may have children by her."[59] Still, the lack of legal validity notwithstanding, there is a consensus among modern historians that same-sex relationships existed in ancient Rome, but the exact frequency and nature of "same-sex unions" during that period is obscure.[60] In 342 AD Christian emperors Constantius II and Constans issued a law in the Theodosian Code (C. Th. 9.7.3) prohibiting same-sex marriage in Rome and ordering execution for those so married.[61]
A same-sex marriage between the two men Pedro Díaz and Muño Vandilaz in the Galician municipality of Rairiz de Veiga in Spain occurred on 16 April 1061. They were married by a priest at a small chapel. The historic documents about the church wedding were found at Monastery of San Salvador de Celanova.[62]
If you cut and paste your entire post, make a citation. Otherwise it looks like bad scholarship.
[Citation for quote above: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriag... ]

Note from your quote: "Furthermore, "matrimonium is an institution involving a mother, mater. The idea implicit in the word is that a man takes a woman in marriage, in matrimonium ducere, so that he may have children by her."

The article confounds same-sex relationships, same-sex unions and same sex marriage. Our laws let's you have a same sex marriage in your church, no law stops you. Our laws let's your family and friends consider you married. This is an issue about government recognition and your wiki quote says: "conubium existed only between a civis Romanus and a civis Romana (that is, between a male Roman citizen and a female Roman citizen), so that a so-called marriage between two Roman males (or with a slave) would have no legal standing in Roman law (apart, presumably, from the arbitrary will of the emperor in the two aforementioned cases)"

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Since: Mar 11

IRELAND

#141201 May 14, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>If you cut and paste your entire post, make a citation. Otherwise it looks like bad scholarship.
Why don't you mention this to those who repeatedly copy and paste BS but, DON'T use a source link?

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#141202 May 14, 2012
Wow, touched a nerve.

If a man could marry another man or a woman, and a woman could marry another woman or a man, then gender doesn't matter. The argument, do we want our government to do that act? What if, the only way to stop it is a Constitutional Amendment?
RiccardoFire

Elk Grove, CA

#141203 May 14, 2012
Mona Lott wrote:
<quoted text>
And your religious beliefs are irrelevant. Our Constitution DOES NOT CARE what religion you are. EQUAL PROTECTION OF THE LAW. It doesn't say "only for fundamentalist christians.
Our Constitution is being trampled by our current President, does that bother you too?

“WAY TO GO”

Since: Mar 11

IRELAND

#141204 May 14, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
Wow, touched a nerve.
If a man could marry another man or a woman, and a woman could marry another woman or a man, then gender doesn't matter. The argument, do we want our government to do that act? What if, the only way to stop it is a Constitutional Amendment?
Yes, because it is already taking place.....again....YOU DON'T HAVE TO LIKE IT OR AGREE WITH IT......but it is going to happen!!

A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT IS SIMPLY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!!!

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#141205 May 14, 2012
RnL2008 wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, because it is already taking place.....again....YOU DON'T HAVE TO LIKE IT OR AGREE WITH IT......but it is going to happen!!
A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT IS SIMPLY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!!!
What is taking place is that in just a brew short years we went from one state banning SSM to 31 states with another couple of elections upcoming.....

The gay community also said that a majority of states would never ban SSM but yet it did happen....

The rally against SSM is large and growing and the people are as convinced that they are doing what is right as you are convinced that what you are doing is right,,,,,,,

The big difference u=is that we have about 90% of the population on our side and you have 10%

Even very liberal southern black churches are saying they will not vote for oslama over this.....

http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2012/05/13/same...

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#141206 May 14, 2012
We're going to make it happen, starting with Noveember, a President who's pledged a Constitutional Amendment, and a congress willing to pass it with a two-thirds supermajority in both houses. We've got our work cut out for us.

We're not going to stop until we put an end to nondemocratic judicial activist attacks on husband/wife marriage.
Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#141207 May 14, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Our Constitution is being trampled by our current President, does that bother you too?
Really? In what way is the President trampling the Constitution?
Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#141209 May 14, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
We're going to make it happen, starting with Noveember, a President who's pledged a Constitutional Amendment, and a congress willing to pass it with a two-thirds supermajority in both houses. We've got our work cut out for us.
We're not going to stop until we put an end to nondemocratic judicial activist attacks on husband/wife marriage.
What does the office of the President have to do with a Constitutional Amendment? The President cannot initiate one, nor even vote on one.

So we can add simple arithmetic to the list of your failures, I see. You don't have a 2/3 majority in either chamber.
Winston Smith

Chicago, IL

#141210 May 14, 2012
Elder Perry wrote:
<quoted text>Our values will soon be your values, by hook or by crook.
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/05/12/hfr-...
I've got to hand it to the Mormons of DC for providing the back drop to one of the funniest bits of graffiti I've ever witnessed.

Traveling west around the outer loop of the beltway as you are approaching a bridge (rail road) you can see the Mormon Tabernacle, a massive building quite reminiscent of the Emerald City from the Wizard of Oz. On that particular bridge, in large irregular white letters were the words "SURRENDER DOROTHY" neatly juxtaposed to the church in the background. Hilarious! Evidently someone with no sense of humor had it removed - Mormons, eh? It kept reappearing for a while though. Unfortunately it hasn't been redone in a couple decades. But you can still see the dark spots on the bridge where they painted green over the white letters.

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#141211 May 14, 2012
Mona Lott wrote:
What does the office of the President have to do with a Constitutional Amendment? The President cannot initiate one, nor even vote on one. So we can add simple arithmetic to the list of your failures, I see. You don't have a 2/3 majority in either chamber.
The President has the Bully Pulpit, he can present the case of action.

We don't have a 2/3 supermajority today, but tomorrow is another day.

We'll win because we're good.
Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#141212 May 14, 2012
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>The President has the Bully Pulpit, he can present the case of action.
We don't have a 2/3 supermajority today, but tomorrow is another day.
We'll win because we're good.
Yeah.... just like Pres. Bush suggested a Marriage Amendment. Did it happen? No, it didn't.

You won't win because not everyone is this country is as stupid as you are.

Yes, tomorrow IS another day Miss Scarlett. And I'm looking forward to watching you anti-American, uneducated, fundie bigots getting your asses handed to you by the Court.

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#141213 May 14, 2012
Mona Lott wrote:
<quoted text>Really? In what way is the President trampling the Constitution?
The patriot act

States rights

oslamacare

Food safety act

Starting two wars without the approval of congress.

Drones.

Banning the reimportation of collectable made in the USA guns.

Stopping the oil drilling in the gulf even after a court ordered him to drop the ban

I can post them all day long........LOL

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#141214 May 14, 2012
Mona Lott wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah.... just like Pres. Bush suggested a Marriage Amendment. Did it happen? No, it didn't.
You won't win because not everyone is this country is as stupid as you are.
Yes, tomorrow IS another day Miss Scarlett. And I'm looking forward to watching you anti-American, uneducated, fundie bigots getting your asses handed to you by the Court.
The vast majority are willing to vote you back to the closet today..........

Give it a few more months with a few more of the rose how post going viral..........LOL

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Since: Mar 11

IRELAND

#141215 May 14, 2012
Here Is One wrote:
<quoted text>
What is taking place is that in just a brew short years we went from one state banning SSM to 31 states with another couple of elections upcoming.....
The gay community also said that a majority of states would never ban SSM but yet it did happen....
The rally against SSM is large and growing and the people are as convinced that they are doing what is right as you are convinced that what you are doing is right,,,,,,,
The big difference u=is that we have about 90% of the population on our side and you have 10%
Even very liberal southern black churches are saying they will not vote for oslama over this.....
http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2012/05/13/same...
Actually......most of the states that put in place mini DOMA's did so at roughly the same time......North Carolina is the first to do so in like 10 years.......and won't be the last, but we went from 1 state that granted the right to marry for Same-Sex couples in 2004 to 6 stated by 2011 plus DC......in this year alone, we could pick up 2 maybe 3 more states!!!

We have more than 10% of the population on our side.....remember, we do have straight family, friends and supporters in general......but like all issues, things take time!!

Oh and STOP confusing me with Rose NoHo........thanks!!!

“WAY TO GO”

Since: Mar 11

IRELAND

#141216 May 14, 2012
Here Is One wrote:
<quoted text>
The patriot act
States rights
oslamacare
Food safety act
Starting two wars without the approval of congress.
Drones.
Banning the reimportation of collectable made in the USA guns.
Stopping the oil drilling in the gulf even after a court ordered him to drop the ban
I can post them all day long........LOL
The original Patriot Act was SIGNED BY BUSH......so, it was Bush who trampled the Constitution.....and committed all of those acts you listed!!!
Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#141217 May 14, 2012
Here Is One wrote:
<quoted text>
The patriot act
States rights
oslamacare
Food safety act
Starting two wars without the approval of congress.
Drones.
Banning the reimportation of collectable made in the USA guns.
Stopping the oil drilling in the gulf even after a court ordered him to drop the ban
I can post them all day long........LOL
OMFG! If you reproduced, your kids should be considered for the witless protection program.

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#141222 May 14, 2012
RnL2008 wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually......most of the states that put in place mini DOMA's did so at roughly the same time......North Carolina is the first to do so in like 10 years.......and won't be the last, but we went from 1 state that granted the right to marry for Same-Sex couples in 2004 to 6 stated by 2011 plus DC......in this year alone, we could pick up 2 maybe 3 more states!!!
We have more than 10% of the population on our side.....remember, we do have straight family, friends and supporters in general......but like all issues, things take time!!
Oh and STOP confusing me with Rose NoHo........thanks!!!
Wow you gained 6....LOL

We gained 30..........LOL

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