CA Proposition 23 - Global Warming

Created by CitizenTopix on Oct 12, 2010

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San Dimas, CA

#5124 Sep 20, 2012
What you don't like thenew heat lamp we bought for you?

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Since: Sep 10

Perris, CA

#5125 Sep 21, 2012
Wayne wrote:
The enforcement of AB 32 will cause an economic disaster for California that will keep other states from passing such legislation, and probably do more harm for the cause than it will help the environment.
Points to ponder on AB 32 / Prop 23:
° AB 32 is not a pollution law, it is a global warming law, but it won’t have any effect on global warming.
° Prop 23, in spite of fear-mongering by opponents, does not repeal any clean-air laws. It does not increase local pollution.
° CARB over-estimated diesel emmisions by 340%. What else have they over-estimated?
° Key CARB personnel caught lying about credentials and then failing to reveal this after it is discovered internally before AB 32 passed, until after AB 32 passed. What else are they lying about and with-holding?
° Sacramento State University reports estimated cost of $3734 per year per family due strictly to AB 32.
° CARB has admitted that California alone cannot have an impact on reducing global warming and CO2 emissions.
° US EPA acknowledges that US action alone will not impact the world CO2 levels;
° US EPA (11 July 2010) said that bills in Congress will not reduce the total use of gas and oil of 20 million gallons per day for decades.
° LAO (CA Legislative Analyst Office) stated: CA economy at large will be adversely affected by implementation of climate-related policies that are not in place elsewhere.(Letter to Dan Logue, 13 May 2010)
° Even CARB’s own economic experts have recognized the fact that jobs will be lost because of AB 32. In fact, they recommend establishing a “Worker Transition Program” to provide assistance to people who lose their jobs because of AB 32 regulations.
° AB 32 does nothing for local pollution, nor does Proposition 23 do anything to increase local pollution.
When the loudest objections to any candidacy or initiative are focused on vilifying its financial backers, this often indicates that its opponents’ arguments on its merits are weak.
Vote yes on Prop 23 and suspend AB32.
...what is it about fraud, don't you understand? this is why food prices up, gas, etc. everything, cause the nutty epa, is destroying the economy in ca. the last thing i want for ca. is more un-employment! wise up!!!

Since: Sep 10

Perris, CA

#5126 Sep 21, 2012
Itsthemedia wrote:
Stop Fking up my air and everyone elses KOOKS. Try thinking past your ass. Their are much more jobs to be had moving FORWARD than BACKWARD into the dark ages. Who the heck taught these people that the air was for anyone to destroy? These people dont even know the meaning of COMMONS. Air is not only one of them, but the most important one.
wtf? how old are you? haven't you heard, global warming is a fraud....you have been had!! it's a scam to regulate employment to zero!!! thus, giving the government, total power over the people!! awake!! you freedom is being stolen away, while you worry about the "air"? really?..you still can't see the star at night, somtime, you can't see the sun in the day!! so what!!! it the weather, no global warming...
mitt goldwater

Anderson, CA

#5127 Sep 21, 2012
jondee wrote:
<quoted text>...what is it about fraud, don't you understand? this is why food prices up, gas, etc. everything, cause the nutty epa, is destroying the economy in ca. the last thing i want for ca. is more un-employment! wise up!!!
the EPA is protecting the environment you fool.

they are protecting it from "moochers" who would drill our waters and leave a nasty mess for the tax payers to clean up...(see super fund)

not to mention destroying our coasts multi billion dollar tourist economy.

tourism spreads money around alot better than oil profits?? right?

but you dont want profits spread around to ordinary people, because you are a greedy, self interetsted rebuttlicker!!

I feel sorry for you because the true stripes of your party's platform are now showing.....and people are GETTING TURNED OFF QUICK!!

if it was up to you guys??? wed have NO protections for workers and NO weekends either, because you people HATE collective bargaining.
Shock wave

Sierra Madre, CA

#5128 Sep 22, 2012
America still hasn't settled down after what Willard Mitt Romney said: motherjones.com

P.S. what did he say about heat?
mitt goldwater

Anderson, CA

#5129 Sep 22, 2012
Shock wave wrote:
America still hasn't settled down after what Willard Mitt Romney said: motherjones.com
P.S. what did he say about heat?
i dont blame america for not settling down to the issues...

they were just insulted in a huge WAY by one of the candidates....

he insulted the poor, the middle class, latinos and blacks all in one sweet hidden video!!

not to mention telling all his prospective jewish voters that he will kick the can down the road to the future in regards to the palastinian isreal conflict. not smart!!

I, like many knew that it was impossible for mitt to be elected president, because he JUST COUlD NOT connect with blue colar rust belt voters in wisc, PA, michigan and ohio.
never mind that I knew he would gaffe like this, at some point anyways!!

and he went on to hire the voucherize medicare guy as his running mate.!!!

DID you guys SEE PAUL ryan trying to explain to the AARP crowd, that repealing Obama care and voucherizing medicare for(for the next generation when they retire)is a great idea???

he practiaclly got booed off the stage by a confrence room full of people OVER 55.!!!

between that and the israel comments???....good luck winning in florida!!
Shock news

Sierra Madre, CA

#5130 Sep 22, 2012
And yet the news is great for some and bad for other's.

motherjones.com
mitt goldwater

Anderson, CA

#5131 Sep 22, 2012
it is always great when a gold water style republican goes off the deep end in the fall.....

so entertaining!!

it is when the we can remind the rest of AMerica why we have never embraced mitt romneys(or rick santorum) values.....

to have a chance in 16'???

the republicans must divorce themselves from social issues, and focus mainly on budgetary issues.

they must rebrand themselves and reembrace those they drummed out of the party(see C.christ and Jeb) because of the tea party orthodoxy that swept in party in 10'

non-governing in congress(with regards to jobs legislation) will not raise their approval rating, which is in the toilet....

if they continue to roadblock every thing???

their politcial careers wil be tossed aside in 14' and 16'.....

I feel sorry for them, but heir ideology is based 50 years in the past......

and america seems to want to move ahead....
Shock wave

Sierra Madre, CA

#5132 Sep 22, 2012
Several people recall having to deal with Bain Capital at that time.

It was a terrible story of duplicity, of greed and of pillaging.

motherjones.com

Since: Sep 10

Perris, CA

#5133 Sep 22, 2012
mitt goldwater wrote:
<quoted text>
the EPA is protecting the environment you fool.
they are protecting it from "moochers" who would drill our waters and leave a nasty mess for the tax payers to clean up...(see super fund)
not to mention destroying our coasts multi billion dollar tourist economy.
tourism spreads money around alot better than oil profits?? right?
but you dont want profits spread around to ordinary people, because you are a greedy, self interetsted rebuttlicker!!
I feel sorry for you because the true stripes of your party's platform are now showing.....and people are GETTING TURNED OFF QUICK!!...that is the dumbest thing i ever heard!...while you are thinking: look this up:www.iclei.com......an just this week the epa put out 17,000 memo of the u.s.a hater communist "che" saying how great he was!! btw, the oil cleanup, was paid in full by the oil companies!! the epa are communist, trying to steal our country from us while you pathetic assholes, are trying to "save the earth"......total morons!!
if it was up to you guys??? wed have NO protections for workers and NO weekends either, because you people HATE collective bargaining.
...while you are thinking. look up: www.iclei.com .....and just this week the epa sent out 17,000 memoes of the u.s.a. hater, communist "che" saying how great he was....thats the epa...btw, the oil spill, the oil companies cleaned it up, no taxpayers....the epa are a communist organisation working with the democrat party to destroy this coubtry, while panty-waist sissys like you are convinced you are saving the earth!!

Since: Sep 10

Perris, CA

#5134 Sep 22, 2012
Shock wave wrote:
Several people recall having to deal with Bain Capital at that time.
It was a terrible story of duplicity, of greed and of pillaging.
motherjones.com
..oh yes, just terrible!!! nothing like the u.n. the epa. and obama distroying this country by regulation, bulling and treason!! you libreals, are all traitors, or really stupid people!!

Since: Sep 10

Perris, CA

#5135 Sep 22, 2012
mitt goldwater wrote:
it is always great when a gold water style republican goes off the deep end in the fall.....
so entertaining!!
it is when the we can remind the rest of AMerica why we have never embraced mitt romneys(or rick santorum) values.....
to have a chance in 16'???
the republicans must divorce themselves from social issues, and focus mainly on budgetary issues.
they must rebrand themselves and reembrace those they drummed out of the party(see C.christ and Jeb) because of the tea party orthodoxy that swept in party in 10'
non-governing in congress(with regards to jobs legislation) will not raise their approval rating, which is in the toilet....
if they continue to roadblock every thing???
their politcial careers wil be tossed aside in 14' and 16'.....
I feel sorry for them, but heir ideology is based 50 years in the past......
and america seems to want to move ahead....
..lets see how entertaining it will be when obama leads you back to slavery, socialism, marxism!! i know these are big words for you, but look them up, if not get someone to do it for you....

Since: Sep 10

Perris, CA

#5136 Sep 22, 2012
mitt goldwater wrote:
whoops.....we left the door open on the freezer,
and we just fried the arctic.
if greenland melts, the ocean levels will rise 20 ft!!
....lmfao!! chicken little syndrom: the sky is falling, the sky is falling!! give me your money, the sky is falling!! the fool of the centry!!
Shock wave

Sierra Madre, CA

#5137 Sep 22, 2012
list of companies bain capital destroyed with Willard Mitt Romney.

motherjones.com

Get on the Bain band wagon, and make piles of cash and wipe out town after town.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#5138 Sep 22, 2012
The interesting fact that not only do American's oppose carbon taxes, the Senate voted unanimously to oppose Europe's new carbon taxes:

Senate votes to shield U.S. airlines from EU's carbon scheme

By Valerie Volcovici
WASHINGTON | Sat Sep 22, 2012 4:27pm EDT
(Reuters)- The Senate unanimously passed a bill on Saturday that would shield U.S. airlines from paying for their carbon emissions on European flights, pressuring the European Union to back down from applying its emissions law to foreign carriers.
The European Commission has been enforcing its law since January to make all airlines take part in its Emissions Trading Scheme to combat global warming, prompting threats of a trade fight.

The Senate approved the bill shortly after midnight, as it scrambled to complete business to recess ahead of the November 6 congressional and presidential elections....
Shock wave

Sierra Madre, CA

#5139 Sep 22, 2012
If it's warming you want, try this motherjones.com
mitt goldwater

Anderson, CA

#5140 Sep 22, 2012
jondee wrote:
<quoted text>..lets see how entertaining it will be when obama leads you back to slavery, socialism, marxism!! i know these are big words for you, but look them up, if not get someone to do it for you....
you seem to be the one who thinks the sky is falling.

all Ive heard from you is typical undereducated hysterical rants from the right(faux news victim)

are we really turning into a communist country??

do you know what a communist county is??

it is where the state HAS ownership of ALL industries..

not just .3 percent of them.

socialism has been in place here in america, as a mechanism for wealth redistribution, your while life and that of your parents.

pure capitalism doesnt work too well for the masses.

yet the masses are where the wealthy derive their wealth.

thus we have to take care of the middle class, since the demand of the middle class is what fuels the economy??

yes??

or do you have it all upside down??
SteelLeader

Sierra Madre, CA

#5141 Sep 22, 2012
The steehead are coming back next year too!

Been fishing lately?

motherjones.com

Since: Sep 10

Perris, CA

#5142 Sep 22, 2012
Shock wave wrote:
list of companies bain capital destroyed with Willard Mitt Romney.
motherjones.com
Get on the Bain band wagon, and make piles of cash and wipe out town after town.
...nothing like wiping ones ass on the constitution, like obama!!.....what is it about treason, don't you understand?
Sizzered

Sierra Madre, CA

#5143 Sep 22, 2012
So you really want the heat that goes with the office?

You and your wife couldn't handle it, tell your wife she's not smart enough or woman enough to even start.

motherjones.com

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