Cajon Pass closed following 50 car pi...

Cajon Pass closed following 50 car pileup

There are 23 comments on the San Gabriel Valley Tribune story from Jun 10, 2009, titled Cajon Pass closed following 50 car pileup. In it, San Gabriel Valley Tribune reports that:

As many as 50 vehicles were involved in a chain-reaction accident early Wednesday in fog on the north 15 freeway in the Cajon Pass, with injuries reported and wreckage scattered for a half-mile, authorities said.

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Boss

Victorville, CA

#1 Jun 10, 2009
People two words : SLOW DOWN
Patrick

Zapopan, Mexico

#2 Jun 10, 2009
This is a classic case of driving too fast. It will be said that the accident was caused by fog, but it was really caused by people driving too fast to stop safely within the limited area of visibility available -- one car lenght for each 10 mph..
West Covina

Arcadia, CA

#3 Jun 10, 2009
I am sure speed played a factor - but if you have ever driven the Cajon Pass in the fog - it gets really hard to see - you can't see right in front of you. I usually pull behind the trucks to go very slow. The trucks drive way to fast in that area most of the time. I see them going 70 MPH when it is windy - I worry they are going to get blown over into the cars next to them cause they just down slow down.
hecnut69

Los Angeles, CA

#4 Jun 10, 2009
West Covina wrote:
I am sure speed played a factor - but if you have ever driven the Cajon Pass in the fog - it gets really hard to see - you can't see right in front of you. I usually pull behind the trucks to go very slow. The trucks drive way to fast in that area most of the time. I see them going 70 MPH when it is windy - I worry they are going to get blown over into the cars next to them cause they just down slow down.
dont slow down to much and please dont flat out stop! people dont worry about the truck drivers they are profesionals and know what they are doing.
Common Sense

Los Angeles, CA

#5 Jun 10, 2009
hecnut69 wrote:
<quoted text> dont slow down to much and please dont flat out stop! people dont worry about the truck drivers they are profesionals and know what they are doing.
I worry about the truck drivers. They are paid by the mile. So, they have an incentive to drive fast, drive off their load and get to the next stop. The faster they do this, the more money they make. So, that's why truckers are so dangerous. It's not a coincidence that the cause of the accidents is two big rigs slamming into each other.
B_EZ

Pittsburg, CA

#6 Jun 10, 2009
People are in a rush to die now a days. This is one of the reasons I quit playing "speed racer" on the highways... people dont know how to drive around me.
pancho

San Jacinto, CA

#7 Jun 10, 2009
Common Sense wrote:
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I worry about the truck drivers. They are paid by the mile. So, they have an incentive to drive fast, drive off their load and get to the next stop. The faster they do this, the more money they make. So, that's why truckers are so dangerous. It's not a coincidence that the cause of the accidents is two big rigs slamming into each other.
Yeah maybe some idiot car pulled in front of them. Thats what always happens
Gina

La Verne, CA

#8 Jun 10, 2009
I bet speed played a role, people could careless about themselves, their families and for sure the other drivers on the road. I actually feel pretty safe when a truck driver is around, I've seen idiots straight out cut them off, sad. I used to speed until I got a ticket about 7 years ago. People please slow down be cautious on the road we all want to get to where we are going safe.
Russ

Montebello, CA

#9 Jun 10, 2009
pancho wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah maybe some idiot car pulled in front of them. Thats what always happens
Unfortunately the story broke on the TV morning news that illegal Mexican immigrants crossing the road may have caused the crash, in addition to the weather being hampered. Something has to be done about these illegal Mexicans not adapting to becoming an American, and now this. This is a sad day for Americans. Love the USA or leave it should be todays theme.
Here is some change

Los Angeles, CA

#10 Jun 10, 2009
Common Sense wrote:
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I worry about the truck drivers. They are paid by the mile. So, they have an incentive to drive fast, drive off their load and get to the next stop. The faster they do this, the more money they make. So, that's why truckers are so dangerous. It's not a coincidence that the cause of the accidents is two big rigs slamming into each other.
So, that's why truckers are so dangerous.??? Are you kidding me? There aren't ANY CA drivers as mandated as these.....Moronic comment! And as for the other moron, who says they do 70mph here....it's northbound UP A HILL, what do you think they are driving? It's impossible! These trucks were probably going 40 MPH here. As for being paid by the mile, they have their daily route - the majority won't make more that day to drive faster. It's an accident, it doesn't mean the whole population of truckers are bad, dangerous, fast driving, careless and money hungry. So dumb.........
Ironfeather

Los Angeles, CA

#11 Jun 10, 2009
And one of our witnesses was zig zagging through the wreckage and around a downed motorcyclist. Wow, don't stop for assistance, just go your own way.
You people are stupid

Los Angeles, CA

#12 Jun 10, 2009
Okay, never mind the fact that there is a scale house half way up the pass, or that no semi, loaded or unloaded is even capable of "doing 70" up the pass... what is wrong with you morons? None of you have any facts AT ALL to know what caused the crash, and you are merely SPECULATING (for the folks from San Berdue, that means guessing) on what caused the crash. The person above who says the truck drivers are professionals.... you at least "get it". To the rest of you, if you want to pontificate about something, trying having a least a modicum of knowledge of that about which you speak. I am so bone weary of the stupid people of this state I can't hardly stand it anymore....
U cant drive

AOL

#13 Jun 10, 2009
People never learn, thats all there is to it. I think it is interesting though that in the main picture that 5 out of the 7 visble cars are toyota's. Are they that popular or do the people that own them not know how to drive? No wonder insurance rates are so high if you live within 20 miles of the cajon pass, as far as i can remember there is at least one pile up a year somewhere between oak hill and the split. I used to be a tow operator in the pass and have pulled so many cars off the side of the road up there and almost got hit by **** drivers doing it so many times that its really not funny. People need to slow the hell down up there, north and south. I'm curious to know what two companies big rigs collided to start the whole thing too because they are a whole other issue that needs to be dealt with, hear what i'm saying Robertsons Ready Mix transport drivers? You know who you are driving too fast all over our freeways breaking our windshields with flying rocks and sand. Professional truck drivers are few and far between now adays, even you few that comment about them will admit that. The comment about us stoopid people down in s.b. is unfounded, the pile ups are usually on the south bound side involving people coming from the hi desert, not going to. So get it right. Common sense is the problem, unfortunatley that is not an available option on motor vehicles.
highdesertlady

Apple Valley, CA

#14 Jun 10, 2009
Of course the truckers are good drivers and there is no way they could have been going up the hill at a fast pace. The fog was the problem and the trucker could not see far enough ahead and trying to come to a dead stop with a full load is more than difficult. Thank God no one was killed or seriously injured. Let this be a warning to all of us who live in the area and have to drive the Cajon Pass. We need to be alert, especially here.
uncle_vito

United States

#15 Jun 10, 2009
Bottom line. Do not drive the Cajon pass until after about 1 pm in the afternoon. Fog is burned off by then.

Fog is deadly. Worse than driving with a bunch of drunks.

Vito
Here is some change

Los Angeles, CA

#16 Jun 10, 2009
U cant drive wrote:
Professional truck drivers are few and far between now adays, even you few that comment about them will admit that.
I disagree. The majority are good careful drivers. There are of course, like with any group (motorcycles, RV'ers, passenger cars, etc.), some are not careful.
John

Pasadena, CA

#17 Jun 10, 2009
Ironfeather wrote:
And one of our witnesses was zig zagging through the wreckage and around a downed motorcyclist. Wow, don't stop for assistance, just go your own way.
If you stop and try to help, you'll probably get sued for "causing additional damage", "practicing medicine illegally", etc., etc.
Anonymous

Cerritos, CA

#18 Jun 10, 2009
John wrote:
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If you stop and try to help, you'll probably get sued for "causing additional damage", "practicing medicine illegally", etc., etc.
True... but that type of thinking just shows that you're more worried about C.Y.A. than helping another human being. One, that actually might need your help. Seriously, how hard is it to stop and check to see if they're okay?
grrrrr

United States

#19 Jun 10, 2009
moral of the story: Don't live in Victorville
Arcadian

United States

#20 Jun 10, 2009
Crashing trailer trucks, fog, and freeways don't mix well...The problem is TRUCKS. The are BIG, creating blind spots, take up a lot of room, heavy creating pot holes, slow, and there too many of them at the same time.

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