Saltville Shooting Range
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Fork Union, VA

#24 Apr 26, 2012
concerned wrote:
The land in question has not been used for decades. There are already enough empty sites in Saltville for businesses to come in but there is not an easy access to the town for shipping.
The range will be set-up by a professional and on one will be in danger.
The area will be cleared and the access to the civil war sites will be better. The two could be combined if the historical foundation would want to work with the range people. It is a shame that the two cannot co-exist. It seems the historical foundation just does not want to help. I would love to visit a shooting range and be able to read some historical data on the site. A good way to bring in families for both the history and fun.
That's land that could be used to attract new industry to this town. Two 40,000 square foot buildings could be located over there. And someone wants to try and put something over there that would benefit a few and not all the citizens of the town. Industry would generate more taxes than a gun range ever would. But another person thinks they'll get rich off the citizens in Saltville. People here have gotten smart to the actions of some. Buy the land behind Moss. Oh wait imo they can't buy land worth 1.2 mil for a reportedly $300k and sell an estimated $600k worth of timber to pay for it.
rifled barrel

Knoxville, TN

#25 Apr 26, 2012
Question.Is this range gonna be a 20 yard special like the other one or is it gonna be a nice 200 or 300yd rifle range? How much is it gonna cost a year to shoot there?? Thanks.
bsa

Charlottesville, VA

#26 Apr 28, 2012
Wow! I cannot believe the stupidity of some of the above comments. First, Olin Corp didnt even utilize the majority of the land that will be used for the shooting range. Second - There are too many empty buildings in town for the town to even consider builing new industry buildings, NOW THAT WOULD REALLY BE WASTING MONEY make no mistake about that. Third - the cemetery is not going to be disturbed. Fourth - I find it very amusing that Jerry Catron and Terry Hunt NEVER GAVE A DAMN ABOUT THE BEFORE the range was discussed. Fifth - over two hundred people have signed up for membership at this range, that will damn near pay for the property itself and will serve for year round recreation for not only them but their families. That land was never used for jack crap and never will be. I bet if they dedicated that land as a pain pill park almost every damn resident in Saltville would support it!
Dead eye

Fries, VA

#27 Apr 28, 2012
At least people would have a reason to come to Saltville. Now a few outsiders might visit the Labor day celebrations. More people coming to town to shoot and some of them will dine and shop here.
This is a win-win for Saltville, and gives residents and visitors some good recreation to boot.
rifled barrel

Knoxville, TN

#28 Apr 29, 2012
bsa.If over 200 peeps signed up for the range already what did it cost them? I heard there is around 200 acres of land involved? I also heard it aint just a range,it will also be a hunt club? Heres my take.Since the town,aka, paypayers own this property let them vote on it.2nd,if approved let whoever wants to own it PAY for the land at fair market value.I also thought the land was available to the public during hunting season? One less place to hunt? I sure hope you are not involved in running this town,as you think small.No big industry would consider moving into one of the ratty buildings in town. Your post makes a bad case for the range to me.Admit it,you dont know jack shit about this range or much else around here.
Nine mm

Nashville, TN

#29 Apr 29, 2012
You should not shoot guns with-in the town corp. limits.
I would love a range but in a better place.
bsa

Charlottesville, VA

#30 Apr 29, 2012
Rifled barrel, you are correct, I do not have good knowlege of Saltville as I have only lived here for 62 years. So I do admit it. Yes that property was a hunting area. But think of it this way, only a couple of people could it opposed to two hundred people utilizing the range their. Which is more beneficial? And to clarify something, the property has been assesed at fair market value and thats what the town will be selling it for. 200 people have signed a roster expressing their wish to be a member of the range if indeed the idea does mature. As soon as the green light is given the town will start recieving payment for the property. Also, I have attended all the meetings pertaining to the range and never has a hunting club been metioned. Not saying thats not the case but it is news to me. As far as the land is concerned, I think it is around 250 acres. Concerning a vote. I think that would be a fair way of going about the process! Someone took a petion around town opposing the range but only obtained a little over 100 signatures so support in favor of the range will win by landslide. But if the council opened this up to public vote they would have to open up other things to public vote. That would mean that they wouldnt be allowed to log the hillsides around town and ruin its beauty to pay for things that were utter failures. And lastly, who would want to build a factory builing on a hillside in a town where access is poor due to no railroad or good road system? The town has nice flat land with approx. 50 acres out by the old moss trucking location across from Hartwood and the old cow pasture that runs up the right side of Smokey Row. Plant some trees along the road to mask it and that would be an excellent place for several industrial sites. Why cant that be used? No rifled barrel, I do not run anything in this town as it would be done at least halfway right and in favor of the majority and utilizing common sense if I did!
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Fork Union, VA

#31 Apr 30, 2012
Fair market value? Who appraised it? Certainly not the sida chairman who supposedly said it was worthless. More than two people are opposed to the stealing of the citizens land and putting it close to not one but two cemeteries. If it came to a vote I doubt it'd go through by a landslide. There is better locations like the Clark boundary or behind the old Moss Trucking building. Build a factory on a hillside? There's room for not one but two 40,000 square buildings over there in Millard Davidson hollow. Was the chairman of that sida keeping it from the council? The mayor knew about it the night of the council meeting and another one found out on March 6th. It would only benefit 200 people not 2,000. They have reportedly said thew would have 1,000 members. Where did the other 800 go?
More armed visitors

Burlington, VT

#32 Apr 30, 2012
More ( Hundreds )armed visitors comming to Saltville - Hmmmm !
Suddenly seems like a bad idea !
Better get another Hummer for the Town Police Dept.!
the range

Johnson City, TN

#33 Apr 30, 2012
The shooting range has been in plans for months now the council saw they did not know. can you believe that.
rifled barrel

Knoxville, TN

#34 Apr 30, 2012
bsa.You may have been here 62 years and may be bound in the way things are done in Saltville.I have lived in other states and what goes on here would not fly anywhere else.Is the proposed site on the town map for public hunting use? If so I dont think that is fair to close it off to licensed hunters.I think the land would be best used to benefit the whole town not a few who seem to want to control everything.I live in town,I am always around the town,and I never saw a petition nor heard one was going around. All things need to be opened up for public vote in saltville cause a few seem to think they own the whole dam town.I dont like logging,but as far as failures there are folks signing a petition for a range and they dont know a dam thing about it? That seems stupid to me.I think with that kind of mentality it is already being set up as a failure.No one seems to know jack about whats going on but hey,it sounds good,whatever it is? If anything,I think the TOWN,taxpayers should retain the property,lease it out,leaser holds insurance and assumes all liabilities,and the town and taxpayers are relieved of any liabilities.If we sell the land cheap,and the range fails,I have a feeling a good ole boy is going to get almost 250 acres very cheap at taxpayer expense.Once the land is sold it is gone forever.A corporate tax base would have a multiplier effect on the local economy,whereas a range will not produce much for 250 acres of land use. I love to shoot but I am apprehensive about the true goals of the higher powers that wannabe. as far as logging goes,Saltville needs to boot them all out of office and get folks who want to see this area grow and prosper.
rifled barrel

Knoxville, TN

#35 Apr 30, 2012
the range wrote:
The shooting range has been in plans for months now the council saw they did not know. can you believe that.
Sure.If the range fails the citizens would not know who was responsible for voting for it.Saltville politics at its finest? Thats why an open vote is needed.
rifled barrel

Knoxville, TN

#36 Apr 30, 2012
IMO, the town is breaking the law without public input..
rifled barrel

Knoxville, TN

#37 Apr 30, 2012
bsa.250 acres for a shooting range kinda tells me there is more involved than just plinking targets.
rifled barrel

Knoxville, TN

#38 Apr 30, 2012
If 200 people can almost pay for the 250 acres of land either the supposed RANGE costs will be VERY expensive or the land super cheap. bsa??
rifled barrel

Knoxville, TN

#39 Apr 30, 2012
If 200 members can almost pay for 250 acres,either the fees will be very expensive or the land very cheap? Gotta be one of the 2.bsa,You must know something no one else knows? Best thing industrial wise I have heard from the council was a 1500 sqft facility?They seemed proud of it too.WTF!
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Fork Union, VA

#40 Apr 30, 2012
the range wrote:
The shooting range has been in plans for months now the council saw they did not know. can you believe that.
Yes I can. The ida and the people of Sportsman's Den have been working on this for over a year and a half according to one of them. Ron Orr got caught. We vote for six members and a mayor to make decisions. If Mr. Orr wants to go behind our elected officials kick him off or do away with the ida. They knew it would stir up a stink that's why it was kept away from John Q. Public. When you vote tomorrow remember that two council members voted no: Tom and Dicky. I'll vote their way and forget about the other one.
thats right

Charlottesville, VA

#41 Apr 30, 2012
BSA. I think you are right. Texas Gulf closed down because the town could not secure railway or a good road system to support industry. Thats a fact, not opinion. There was factory built around that cemetery for nearly one hundred years and now everyone is complaining because a shooting range which will "make noise" is proposed to be behind it. Makes no sense when I gauge the reasoning for some of the opposed excuses. A man, who's name I will not disclose, that resides in the Governmet Plant community started the petition. Apparently he did not have the opposition to the range he thought he would have. I am not an avid hunter or shooter but I do consider the range to be better benefit to the community opposed to a small 1500 Sq. Ft. industry (that would be the equivalent of an average size house) which could only employ 7 or 8 people like VA Cobia or fail like Engineered Products. In addition, the taxes recovered from these industries are minimal, not astranomical. I once worked for a business in town that took in 700,000 a year (in the place is still in business) and the taxes were only 1400.00 per year. Thats a fact as well, not opinion. I am for once glad that land in Saltville could potentially be utilized to benefit hundreds, not a few. BSA, that cow pasture was leased to Maneater Kestner and he has since been deceased for 10 years or so. My aunt lives on Smokey Row and says that the land hasnt been used since he passed but is afraid it may sink considering USG may have mined under it.

One more point to consider, the land encompassed by the Pike, Well Fields, Smokey Row and the Quarry (at least three times the size of the shooting range site) was sold to Virginia Gas for 250,000$ 10 years ago. The cost increase of land and housing has went up an average of 9.8% in the area since then. Just something to consider.
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Fork Union, VA

#42 May 1, 2012
thats right wrote:
BSA. I think you are right. Texas Gulf closed down because the town could not secure railway or a good road system to support industry. Thats a fact, not opinion. There was factory built around that cemetery for nearly one hundred years and now everyone is complaining because a shooting range which will "make noise" is proposed to be behind it. Makes no sense when I gauge the reasoning for some of the opposed excuses. A man, who's name I will not disclose, that resides in the Governmet Plant community started the petition. Apparently he did not have the opposition to the range he thought he would have. I am not an avid hunter or shooter but I do consider the range to be better benefit to the community opposed to a small 1500 Sq. Ft. industry (that would be the equivalent of an average size house) which could only employ 7 or 8 people like VA Cobia or fail like Engineered Products. In addition, the taxes recovered from these industries are minimal, not astranomical. I once worked for a business in town that took in 700,000 a year (in the place is still in business) and the taxes were only 1400.00 per year. Thats a fact as well, not opinion. I am for once glad that land in Saltville could potentially be utilized to benefit hundreds, not a few. BSA, that cow pasture was leased to Maneater Kestner and he has since been deceased for 10 years or so. My aunt lives on Smokey Row and says that the land hasnt been used since he passed but is afraid it may sink considering USG may have mined under it.
One more point to consider, the land encompassed by the Pike, Well Fields, Smokey Row and the Quarry (at least three times the size of the shooting range site) was sold to Virginia Gas for 250,000$ 10 years ago. The cost increase of land and housing has went up an average of 9.8% in the area since then. Just something to consider.
There's room for two 40,000 square ft. buildings over there. As for people against putting a range close those those cemeteries you might get a surprise. People will no longer tolerate things shoved down their throat like before. As for Va Gas it was for an industry to bring in tax dollars not for someone ho have it ''given'' to them.
How about a lease

Burlington, VT

#43 May 10, 2012
What if the town leased the property and held the timber rights ?
- We have a gun club and range
- Land is productive
- Resources are protected
- Town keeps land for future development
EVERYBODY WINS !

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