Tumbling Creek
valley child

Murfreesboro, TN

#61 Mar 24, 2011
Through the old maps of southwest va.Carrs cove was called Kiah's cove, chief Kiah lived in there, his connections to the families in the area were the Bowmans of beartown.. His daughter was married to John Bowman, an Irishman. They had a housefull of red headed green eyed half breeds.
The old webb house, a log house that use to sit where the rock mine is now, was owned by Jackie Webb and his wife Anne Bowman Webb, built by the Webb and Bowman boys. The last Webb to live there was Gus Webb, who fought in the civil war and for the north when he was captured by the north, he changed sides. he seen the south was losing and there was opportunity after the war.He was a postmaster after the war, the Hazel Springs Post office.It was Hazel Springs before the civil war, after the 1870's it was called Tumbling Creek.
Gus took his family( Mrs. Ella Henderson knew them) and went to Oklahoma, settled on the border of two states, grew wheat..The last of the children to visit was Nannie Webb, back in the 50's.
valley child

Murfreesboro, TN

#62 Mar 24, 2011
In the Tumbling Creek Churchyard, where the new septic system was dug, were the graves of William and Phoebe Taylor Eastridge and her sister Mary Ellen Taylor, along with many other older graves..
vandals threw the tombstones in the road, some were broken and what were left were piled up on side of the road, when the road crew made the new road, they just buried them under.
Will and Phoebe lived down there behind Fitch Taylors, in a little house in the hollow.
Will and Phoebie had several children.Mary Ellen died in 1832, she was young, she had a twin sister Sara Helen(married a Poston) they were identical twins, Mary Ellen went to sleep, they couldn't wake her up, a couple of weeks and they determined she was dead, so they arranged her funeral..after the burial,that night Sarah screamed they had buried her sister alive, so she become hysterical, to keep her from going mad, the men folk dug up the grave the next morning, there was Mary Ellen with her hair pulled out and her fingernails in the coffin lid. They had buried her alive.
To build a modern outhouse, I believe the church goers desecrated several graves.
"High on a windy hill" a book that tells of the cemetaries and who are buried there.
valley child

Murfreesboro, TN

#63 Mar 24, 2011
The William Moore family, his son Samuel and James lived in the valley where the Cardwell's lived, William got a land grant after he lost his leg in the civil war.
Moores owned the land back in the cove, In 1832, they sold to the Helton family,after William passed away. William married Elizabeth Alsworth, her sister married a Burgess and lived at the foot of the hill going up to the old Cardwell house.
The Burgess family is buried in an ummarked grave at the top of the hill above where their house was.
Moores run Creasy's Mill(massacared by indians in 1754)
John Creasy had an Indian family, and the wife disappeared, old people told that he killed and buried here under the hearth,that old house set up in Briar Cove.On the road back from the target range there is an area where the little school house was in the 1850's. Now back to Creasys mill, When the Indians killed Creasy,they pinned him to the mill wheel, and there is a 1700's map of the area that will show you the mill was at the top of the switch backs, where you split to go to the lake and to Jackson Gap. Older people told that the Moores who run the mill, couldn't get the blood stain off the wheel.
In the 80's they dug up a mill stone there where you cross the bridge to go to the lake.The mill pond run back up through the branch and field.
valley child

Murfreesboro, TN

#64 Mar 24, 2011
Correction on above, Williams wife Elizabeth's sister married a Burgess.
valley child

Murfreesboro, TN

#65 Mar 24, 2011
Of the people who built the Tumbling Creek church, there were William Eastridge, and Andrew Jackson Taylor, as well as an Aistrop. Several other people were also involved.

On the corner in front of the Tumbling Church, during the civil war, the Northern soldiers camped.
that was before the church was built. The first tumbling creek church was on the peak beside Junior Snead's house, Cecil Hockett had a trailer there and it burned down..Use to be CH Johnsons place. The Tumbling Creek Church before the war.
In the corner across from that "the still branch comes out of the hollow by Colleen Taylors, on the hill, there was another Tumbling Creek school, granted by BAHelton. The first post office was there where the block building is as you turn up in the cove, use to be a toll bridge across the creek , there where the Marion Taylor house was and it crossed someway over on the cove road..The stable was back over behind the big white house as you go up in the cove, out from the camp ground.A stage coach run thru there.
James

United States

#66 May 3, 2011
Does anyone here remember my dad, Paul kirk? He spent time in the cove with my great grandfather John Dye.He work for the stuart land cattle company along with my great grand dad. My dad will be 76 this year..And i heard hin tell stories of a lot of the old people mentioned here. I just wonder if anyone is left that he knew or worked with,
Valley girl

Paducah, KY

#67 May 23, 2011
I didn't know Mr. Kirk but did know Mr.Dye. He worked for Stuart cattle company, and rode a horse to look after the property.
Remember, he was a very happy sort of person, both he and Mrs.Dye were good people. They lived country style, and always had a big kitchen table set with a white table cloth covering it. Any time you went there they got you a plate of food. I was a kid at the time, and remember they were good and kind people.
la la la not listening

Luray, VA

#68 Dec 20, 2011
DonnyDuck wrote:
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Really? Those were the days when the road only went to where John Dye and "Antney" Boardwine lived, wasn't it? You ought to come on back and fish in it again sometime; the trout they stock in the summer are about the right size to put in a 10-gallon aquarium, but it's fun to fish, anyway.
Let's see...Did you know Kemple Price? Bill Henry Robbins? Keatie Snead and Claude? San Price? Jack Helton? Cart Boardwine? Verlin Cardwell? Maybe, uh, hmmm, Weets Moore? Buddy Montgomery? Any of Dewey Snead's boys? How about Margaret Taylor's kids? Peanut Austin used to fish down there a lot...I know you remember CH Johnson's store, and Marion Taylor's and Ann's Place?'Sounds like you're a displaced native.
You ought to come on back and fish it again for old times sake--the fish they stock there in the summer are about the right size to keep in a 10-gallon aquarium and have as much fight in them as an old wet sock, but I'm too sorry to go much further to fish.
verlin cardwell is my uncle on my mom's side. he's around here somewhere.
Kathy Shearer

Johnson City, TN

#69 Aug 27, 2012
James wrote:
Does anyone here remember my dad, Paul kirk? He spent time in the cove with my great grandfather John Dye.He work for the stuart land cattle company along with my great grand dad. My dad will be 76 this year..And i heard hin tell stories of a lot of the old people mentioned here. I just wonder if anyone is left that he knew or worked with,
James -- I am writing a book about the men who worked for Stuart Land & Cattle Co., and their families. I am collecting stories and pictures for this history. Does your dad live in southwest Virginia now? I live at Emory.
deer slayer

Knoxville, TN

#70 Aug 28, 2012
Lucy Mechanicsville VA wrote:
I visit close friends from Saltville..and they always take me here. It is my favorite place to go..always. I could sit and just "be" for hours on end.
Those of you that live in the area...very lucky.
yea, we were lucky until our republican gov. and carl lamie got together and started charging admission. now its a private club area. the rich mans gonna keep taking from the poor and trying to hold us down until we have absolutly nothing left,then the poor will rise up and start taking back. and we will win too becuase we have the guns and the numbers!!!!!
whatha

Knoxville, TN

#71 Sep 7, 2012
Because they are trying to keep it open, the game reserve decided to charge to pay the upkeep on it.
Don't think Carl Lamie or the Saltville gang have anything to do with that.
whatha

Knoxville, TN

#72 Sep 7, 2012
Kathy Shearer wrote:
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James -- I am writing a book about the men who worked for Stuart Land & Cattle Co., and their families. I am collecting stories and pictures for this history. Does your dad live in southwest Virginia now? I live at Emory.
Kathy, there were many people who worked for Stuart Land and Cattle company, it was one of the bigger operations during the depression years...Let me name you a few in the older generation.
Daniel Price and his family. John Dye, Curry Holmes and his children, son Mack,Denny, Wayne and George. Noah Boardwine and his family, they use to live in the cove, then moved to Corn Valley. Anthony Boardwine. Freal Lynch, Noah Tuggle, James Lowe, John Athea's family, Mack and Lamar Cardwell and their father James Cardwell. Glen Helton and Montague Helton. Daugerty and Charlie Price. The Lowe family lived near the muck as you go to beartown mtn. to the right of the road that now is there, up on the hill, there is a boulder type rock, the old Lowe house sat near it, and their cemetary was over the hill on the left of the boulder. Many times I have passed the huge rock on the way to red creek and mutters gap. In the seventies, the game reserve turned in beavers, beavers destroyed the old orchard at the head of red creek, they cut the trees and dammed the creek. Not only did they use trees, they also used stones for damming. It was most unusual.
Mutters gap was up a winding hollow above the beaver dams, to the left side of the mountain. In the early 1900's and back in the 1800's when they celebrated the fourth of July, they would take horses and sleds back into the gap to a cave and get ice for drinks and making icecream. That was their refrigeration in the day. The cave existed with teh ice.
whatha

Knoxville, TN

#73 Sep 7, 2012
Kathy,

A person, still living in the area, and in his ninetys, Tommy Henderson, use to take the people who worked in the cove to trade over in Lebanon. He has a telephone and is Listed in the Meadowview directory, he lives in the cove. He could tell you about the history of the place, his family were early settlers in the area.
history

Knoxville, TN

#74 Oct 7, 2012
The person who wrote a book on the people of Washington County, where they lived, a good history and census. His books are in the library.

Jack Hockett was from the creek, son of Oliver and Gladys Henderson Hockett.. He descended from the Snead family and the Henderson-Fullen families.

There is a young lady with the clinch mountain press writin a book about the cove and the Stuart Land and cattle company, one of the largest cattle companies in Va. at the time, they employed many people.

If anyone has any information about the Stuart Land and Cattle company, or had family members working for them, she would appreciate that information.
There were two industries in the 1800's and 1900's, that was Olin Chemicals and Stuart Land and Cattle Company..Forgot to mention the Plaster Mines.
history

Knoxville, TN

#75 Oct 7, 2012
James wrote:
Does anyone here remember my dad, Paul kirk? He spent time in the cove with my great grandfather John Dye.He work for the stuart land cattle company along with my great grand dad. My dad will be 76 this year..And i heard hin tell stories of a lot of the old people mentioned here. I just wonder if anyone is left that he knew or worked with,
James, have you talked to the lady who is researching the Stuart Company, she is lookin for people related to Mr.John Dye, who knew of the cove and of the people there..I can't remember Paul Kirk, but am sure some of the Boardwines in Corn Valley and the lebanon area would know him...knew Mr.Dye and Mrs.Dye.
Dennis Fields

Jacksonville, FL

#76 Oct 16, 2012
valley child wrote:
The William Moore family, his son Samuel and James lived in the valley where the Cardwell's lived, William got a land grant after he lost his leg in the civil war.
Moores owned the land back in the cove, In 1832, they sold to the Helton family,after William passed away. William married Elizabeth Alsworth, her sister married a Burgess and lived at the foot of the hill going up to the old Cardwell
I'd like to know more about John Fields and his brother. Who were the parents of William Moore Fields? [email protected]
Valley Child

Knoxville, TN

#77 Oct 18, 2012
Mr. Fields, I have heard the old story about the Fields family on the creek. They supposedly owned the lands from rt.747 to the river, then it was not a hwy. one brother owned the land on one side of the creek, the other brother owned the land from tumbling creek down the valley.
There was an old story about one of the fields brothers who claimed that the indians killed his wife and child, which in fact, he left shortly with another woman, they caught up with him somewhere up inVa. and hanged him, he in fact killed his family, and put the body of his daughter in a well. Have you heard that story?
IF you want to check the records and deeds in Wash. county, you will find the Fields family from the valley. I have never traced the brother and the story of the murders. This is just an old story that people told, and the hauntings are supposedly based on the old story.
Valley Child

Knoxville, TN

#78 Oct 18, 2012
Mr.Fields, there were several stories regarding the Fields families in the area of the creek. John Fields silvermine was on story, it was a low grade silver he found.

Then there was the witch story, Mr.Fields got into a disagreement with a witch over a cow. It was told in the ghost stories.

I haven't heard of the William Moore Fields, William Moore owned the property on Tumbling at one time, he sold it to Helton's. William lost a leg in the revolutionary war. William Moore had many descendants and was neighbors to the Fields families. William Moores family lived in the area.There were Moores from the Rasnack settlement on the North fork of the holston. They are in the history "The Holston pathfinder" That is in the historical society in Abingdon.
open minded

Charlottesville, VA

#79 Oct 19, 2012
deer slayer wrote:
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yea, we were lucky until our republican gov. and carl lamie got together and started charging admission. now its a private club area. the rich mans gonna keep taking from the poor and trying to hold us down until we have absolutly nothing left,then the poor will rise up and start taking back. and we will win too becuase we have the guns and the numbers!!!!!
Republican government? Seriously? Thats what you think?(smh)
I Lived there once

Palmyra, VA

#80 Dec 8, 2012
Kathy Shearer wrote:
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James -- I am writing a book about the men who worked for Stuart Land & Cattle Co., and their families. I am collecting stories and pictures for this history. Does your dad live in southwest Virginia now? I live at Emory.
My husbands Grandfather was Daniel Price

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