Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,795

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#173504 Jan 6, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>You wrote: "Reason #1 They were playing politics. Biden floated his approval of gay marriage publicly, when that went well, Obama announced his." That implies insincerity in Biden's and Obama's support of same sex marriage.
No, it doesn't, you stupid sow. I said they were playing politics. That's what I believe. Their personal positions? I don't really know, but if I had to bet, I'd bet they really have no problem with gay marriage.
Brian_G wrote:
For the Democrats, it's all about the popular vote; they treat same sex marriage as a marriage of convenience.
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<quoted text>I've corrected Rose on her mistake many times; I've never divorced. It's clear now, Rose doesn't care about truth; she only cares about defaming political opponents.
You are vile, so I believe the person who said you are divorced, and not you. Many "save marriage" types are divorced.
Brian_G wrote:
If you love truth, keep marriage male/female because same sex marriage supporters use falsehood to promote their political goals.
You make no sense.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#173505 Jan 6, 2013
Largelanguage wrote:
<quoted text>
Evidence of Christs resurrection, and historical proof of the bible, as well as accurate prophecies.
BS.
There is no evidence of Christ's resurrection. No empty tomb, we can't talk to him today.
The buy-bull has plants growing before there is a sun. So, we know it's not historically accurate. And you can't come up with a real prophecy that has come true. Those "there will be war, earthquakes, and disease in various places" ones don't count, I can predict that.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#173506 Jan 6, 2013
Bruno wrote:
I am a man of FAITH, but this is not a topix of religion, lets get back to the topic - SSM
I say if the queers want to play together let them, but they shouldn't change the rules and rights of the norm. They just can't parade on in here and start demanding to be recognized and respected. Queers are nothing other than a second class citizen, as the feds clearly stated.
Sorry, homophobe, this is a simple matter of equal rights. It's unAmerican to be against equal rights.
A man has the right to marry a woman, a woman should have that same right. A woman has the right to marry a man, a man should have that same right.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#173507 Jan 6, 2013
What causes homophobia? I believe it's a person's inability to deal with their own same sex attractions.
Why is it, in general, so much more intense towards gay men?
This comes from a misunderstanding of how we reproduce. At one time, it was believed that semen actually was "seed". And that men could run out of it.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#173508 Jan 6, 2013
Lililth_Satans_Bore wrote:
yeah i start school in two days
Congrats! Have a great 2013!

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#173510 Jan 6, 2013
R Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, I was agreeing with you, as I know it to be true. We are a softer, quieter version of the old Reich, being brought in slowly, as according to the frog-in-the-saucepan recipe, while being flooded with illegal immigrants that have no interest in resisting the current trend. They are so glad to be here, while possessing no sense of tradition, or history, that they will not argue with the government, in any way. Sheep being brought in, to replace the rams. Few Americans want to understand this, and many refuse to accept it. The few of us that do are labeled "traitors", or "terrorists' or "subversives" by our own people.
If you've ever wondered why there is a "nuts" judge-it icon, now you know.
flint

Sierra Madre, CA

#173511 Jan 6, 2013
Joint powers act cover this too.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#173512 Jan 6, 2013
http://www.focusonthefamily.com/about_us/focu ...
family-formation-trends/regner us-family-structures-study.asp x

Fuller Analysis of Specific NFSS Findings

This first article from Professor Mark Regnerus’(Professor of Sociology, University of Texas, Austin) New Family Structures Study (NFSS) is published in Social Science Research. It is accompanied by published responses from mainstream sociologists, which while critical of a few important points – as academics always are - they are generally in praise of his methodology as well as his unique and needed ground-breaking contribution to the literature on the topic of same-sex parenting. This is key and will go far to rebut the activist’s severe, but largely base-less criticisms.

Strengths and Importance of the NFSS

Regnerus did a remarkably masterful job to be hyper-balanced and guarded in his statements and conclusions.
The study issues from the highly regarded Population Research Center at UT Austin and its methodology was reviewed pre-start by academic sociological and demographic peers from five different leading American universities.
This study is absolutely peerless in the strength of its population sample, both in size and representativeness.(It is not longitudinal though.) All the other existing studies on same-sex parenting - 99.999% examining only lesbian-headed homes – have such miniscule and severely non-representative populations that no substantive conclusions can really be drawn from them. One leading family sociologist – Paul Amato (Penn State)– bluntly referred to the existing study’s statistical strength as “feeble”. Regnerus’ study is the first to use a large, nationally representative population sample. In fact, the NFSS is the largest population sample examining same-sex homes, asking this breadth of questions of respondents.
Regnerus introduces the study by carefully explaining the serious methodological problems endemic in the current literature on this topic in careful detail.(Nearly all of which are done by noted activist lesbian scholars.)
He is primarily addressing what he calls the “no difference” thesis that is presented in the existing gay family literature and has become a near truism in the current public discussion. This refers to the so-called finding of no differences found between same-sex and mom/dad families.

Important Conclusions from the NFSS

Although there are varying numbers, Regnerus finds that 99,000 is the most reliable general figure for how many same-sex headed homes in America have children present. The overwhelming majority of these are in lesbian homes.(SSM proponents typically offer wildly higher numbers to argue the mainstream nature of such homes.)

Below are a sampling of Regnerus’ conclusive statements of his study outcomes:

The NFSS “suggests that notable differences on many outcomes do in fact exist. This is inconsistent with claims of ‘no differences’ generated by studies that have commonly employed far more narrow samples than this one.”
“But this study, based on a rare, large probability sample, reveals far greater diversity in experience of lesbian motherhood (and to a lesser extent, gay fatherhood) than has been acknowledged or understood.”
“Nevertheless, to claim that there are few meaningful statistical differences between the different groups evaluated here would be to state something that is empirically inaccurate.”[different groups examined are lesbian, gay, married intact bio-, hetero-, step-, divorced, and single-parent families]

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#173513 Jan 6, 2013
R Hudson wrote:
And it is going on, right now, right in front of us:
The 2008 election, in which the con-man Obama fooled most of the U.S. public, revealed that many American citizens are as intellectually and morally debased as the Germans in the 1930s. Such incompetence and ignorance always lead to tyranny. The United States is exactly at the same point in national degradation as the German nation in the 1930s when Hitler assumed absolute power and began his regime of mass murder and war crimes against the people of the world.
We've been conditioned to see Germany under Hitler as an unquestionably horrible example of dictatorial tyranny and inhuman barbarity--and to see our present American culture as completely opposite to that of Nazi Germany. And we like to think that if a tyranny such as that in Germany under the Nazi regime were present and growing in America we'd unquestionably be able to see it.
So it's a shock when we realize: most people living in Nazi Germany didn't see the tyranny! They thought it was the best time of their lives!
Godwin's Law
flint

Sierra Madre, CA

#173514 Jan 6, 2013
Just backup to the Hudson River and jump in hoser.

“Reality bites”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#173515 Jan 6, 2013
KiMare wrote:
Flushed down the ole crapper
OwnWorst

Sierra Madre, CA

#173516 Jan 6, 2013
The turks will have to invade Syria to stop the murdering of civilans by the crazy little muslim guy call Assad.

Muslims are there own worst enemys, that's why they like killing so much.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#173517 Jan 6, 2013
[QUOTE ="R Hudson"]
The same indoc that Chongo disputes is cited here, however...
"Assistant Deputy Secretary, Department of Education – Kevin Jennings
Jennings is the founder of the Gay Lesbian and Straight Education Network (GLSEN), a group dedicated to promoting the homosexual agenda to school children as young as five. They’re sick people and even promote books that feature adult-child sex in a favorable way...[/QUOTE]

LOL! Can you name one of those books?

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#173518 Jan 6, 2013
Frank wrote:
These judges should be removed from the bench.
For doing their job?
Frank

Spokane, WA

#173519 Jan 6, 2013
GodSmacked wrote:
<quoted text>
I disagree because once that starts then the country will become a socialist/dictatorship ran by the government for the government.
The country is supposed to be run by the people for he people. The people don't agree with the judges. The people voted. Why would a judge over rule the vote of the people? If judges could over rule the vote of the people,why didn't jugdes in over rule the presidential election November 2,2008?

“Reality bites”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#173520 Jan 6, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
For doing their job?
Hi Rose how are things in North Hollywood? Well I thought that I might remind you about trying to fix stupid, you cant do it. Have a great day.
Frank

Spokane, WA

#173521 Jan 6, 2013
GodSmacked wrote:
<quoted text>
I disagree because once that starts then the country will become a socialist/dictatorship ran by the government for the government.
For judges to rule against the people,in the interest of the President,that is tyranny.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#173522 Jan 6, 2013
KiMare wrote:
http://www.focusonthefamily.co m/about_us/focu...
family-formation-trends/regner us-family-structures-study.asp x
...
"Focus on the Family" is a fundie hate group.
Dismissed.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#173523 Jan 6, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>The country is supposed to be run by the people for he people. The people don't agree with the judges. The people voted. Why would a judge over rule the vote of the people? If judges could over rule the vote of the people,why didn't jugdes in over rule the presidential election November 2,2008?
Look, stupid, why do you think we have three branches of government, a Constitution, checks and balances and don't just vote on everything?
The Constitution says all people in the US should get equal protection, even if that's not popular.
Prop H8 violated equal protection. Ever hear of the 14th Amendment?

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#173524 Jan 6, 2013
Jazybird58 wrote:
<quoted text>Hi Rose how are things in North Hollywood? Well I thought that I might remind you about trying to fix stupid, you cant do it. Have a great day.
Things are fine. Thanks for asking. How are things with you?
I know you can't fix stupid, but you sure can can point it out.:)

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