Not Listening...( DISTRICT PROBLEM)..

Not Listening...( DISTRICT PROBLEM)..

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Since: Apr 07

Salton City

#1 Oct 8, 2007
You got that right.Yes I saw the letters and pictures.Yes I RECEIVED an APOLOGY letter. The District is also to follow the Rules and Regulations set forth by the State and Federal Standards!
I will agree that there is shoreing on the property.Has it been updated? has it been repaired? Yes it was in a useless mode of operation. I know this as a fact! I placed an order for SAFTY Equippment,for shop use and field use! and it was never ordered.I had to beg just to get a lift that is in place.I am sure that I wouldn't be in the mess I am now if I had the requested SAFETY Equippment.
The District has two standards! One for the Public and one for behind closed doors.I also know this as FACT!
It is the responsibilty of District management to enforce the labors codes set forth.This includes foreman or leadman.What is the policy for all the named above if there was a fatality?Who would be to blame?The emloyees don't set the working conditions laws.They are to follow the laws and their leaders are to insure that they know the laws and make safe working conditions SAFE.
Now that my name has been thrown in thus mess I carry my cell phone with me at all times.(It takes pictures also).I f I see an employee in a hole withithout shoreing,proper safety equippment that is needed for the job in use, I will snap a shot and send it to OSHA!So I suggest you learn the rules of safety!! Vests,Hard hats,protective clothing,road signs,Heavy equip. use,traffic laws,not enough employees on secne whn needed.Or anything else,I WILL snap a picture.LEARN the laws DISTRICT!Protect your employees!Now you have been warned and there shouldn't be any excuses!!!!!!

Stockton, CA

#2 Oct 8, 2007
Mr. Davis, thank you for your input. You are correct that it is not up to the Employee to decide rather it is safe or not to use safety equipment when they want. I am curious about the shoring the district has. Do you know the reasoning behind the District not ordering the things to repair it or update? Do you know the reasons why SAFETY equipment for the shop or field was not ordered? I would like to have a conversation with you on these and other matters. As I understand District Policy is a list is turned in and it is up to the General Manager to order items and if over a certain amount it has to go before the Board of Directors for approval. Was this process ever done?
TO Not Listening To Hearsay; You have it all wrong. It is the fault of the General and Asst. Managers for the SAFETY of all employees. Sitting on their hands and waiting for a fatal accident to happen is not the answer. So yes they are to blame, when they went to the job sites, they should have said something! It might be a joke to them but this is no joking matter. I have not posted anything as of yet. I have some new materials concerning the POOR PERFORMANCE of District to go through. When will they ever learn that secrets are not their best suite?

Since: Apr 07

Salton City

#3 Oct 8, 2007
Eyes and ears your welcome.The shoreing the District has that I know of is plywood 1 in. thick.I know the hydraulics were bad and leaked like a sive.Why this and other equippment that was needed wasn't ordered is beyond me.You are right about the way things get purchased of the chain of command.As far as I know it was never given to the Board for purchase and never okayed for me to purchase.It took me about 5 months just to get the lift.
I don't mind meeting with you.just do the same thing you did with the letters and pictures. Be aware though that for legal reasons I will not be able to answer all your questions on some matters.Some information is held in reserve pending future action pretaining to District matters and/or persons.
Not Listening to Hear-say

United States

#4 Oct 8, 2007
I don't want to get into a back-and-forth on this.
I thought that to legitimately list something as shoring equipment meant that it would be just that -- made of iron! I also understand that an employee is reluctant to go against 'orders' when their job is on the line.
I don't want people in danger just to provide the convenience for residents to flush their toilets or take a shower. The District is mandated to do that; but not at the risk of human life.
I just question the time spent attacking the District when they (employees) have the venue of going to the Union (which they must be paying dues to) and getting action in a more expediate fashion.
Just want to hear something about moving forward TODAY, not what the procedures were four, five or six years ago. That cannot be corrected or changed.
Not arguing, just asking!!

Since: Apr 07

Salton City

#5 Oct 9, 2007
To answer your question briefly.The employee does have the right to complain to the Union.It is not up to the Union to dictate District Policy.It is up to MANAGEMENT to insure proper working conditions.If the employees are not taught this then how are they to know.
Haveing the equipment and letting it sit to collect dust and dryrot is not the answer.The District can contact their insurance carrier for information.It's that simple.
Ask the District for a copy of OSHA findings AUG.31,2007 the District received on Sept. 17,2007.Yes I obtained a copy and it shows the District haveing 30 days to clean up this mess.
If you go to the meeting this month just ask the fianance dept,how much was spent on safety items and what was purchashed.
Because the District like to sweep things under the rug, I understand that the following have been made aware of this problem: The Desert Sun,Local T.V.Stations,Workers Comp carrier,OSHA,Imperial County Fire Dept,Imp. Co. Planing,SCSD,probally others.
This is how the District opperates until they are caught.Even 4,5,6 years ago.

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