Gay couples wed in Utah after judge o...

Gay couples wed in Utah after judge overturns ban

There are 122 comments on the Asbury Park Press story from Dec 20, 2013, titled Gay couples wed in Utah after judge overturns ban. In it, Asbury Park Press reports that:

A federal judge struck down Utah's same-sex marriage ban Friday in a decision that marks a drastic shift toward gay marriage in a conservative state where the Mormon church has long been against it.

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“A JOURNEY OF A THOUSAND MILES”

Since: Aug 08

MUST BEGIN WITH A SINGLE STEP!

#21 Dec 21, 2013
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
The German Reich and the Soviet Union distorted jurisprudence in the same way activist judges in America have distorted their power. Leftists arrange this attack on civil society intentionally as a way to gain total, tyrannical control and devalue Western democracy.
STFU and go cry a river.......if ya think Russia is doing a good job with it's hate......go live there......because if you stay in this GREAT Country, all you will be is MISERABLE!!!

Marriage Equality will come to your location as well..........that's the day you'll probably have a heart attack and streak your whitey tighties........lol!!!
Truth matters

Thornhill, Canada

#22 Dec 21, 2013
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
Activist judges legislating from the bench must be stopped; it is an outrageous usurpation of power by single individuals against the will of the citizenry of a State. It appears there are several reasons to repeal the 14th Amendment. And many more reasons for Congress to impeach these judges and remove them from the bench.
This is the problem. They are not elected. The guilty is aquitted, so the judge should be condemned

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#23 Dec 21, 2013
Truth wrote:
The 14th Amendment to the Constitution is the way I saw these bans as unconstitutional from the start.
I agree.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#24 Dec 21, 2013
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
<quoted text>
Single judges should not have the right to rule on State referendums already law. It is too much power for an individual. It destroys a citizenry's involvement and faith in democracy at any level.
Constitution of the United States
Article. 3.

"The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;—to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls;—to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction;—to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party;—to Controversies between two or more States;—between a State and Citizens of another State;—between Citizens of different States;—between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects."

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Constitution of the United States
Amendment. I.

"Congress shall make no law ... abridging ... the right of the people ... to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
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"It is emphatically the province and duty of the Judicial Department to say what the law is. Those who apply the rule to particular cases must, of necessity, expound and interpret that rule. If two laws conflict with each other, the Courts must decide on the operation of each."

- Chief Justice John Marshall; Marbury v Madison, 5 U.S. 137 (1803)

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"The courts were designed to be an intermediate body between the people and the legislature, in order, among other things, to keep the latter within the limits assigned to their authority. The interpretation of the laws is the proper and peculiar province of the courts. A constitution is, in fact, and must be regarded by the judges as, a fundamental law. It, therefore, belongs to them to ascertain its meaning, as well as the meaning of any particular act proceeding from the legislative body. If there should happen to be an irreconcilable variance between the two, that which has the superior obligation and validity ought, of course, to be preferred; or, in other words, the Constitution ought to be preferred to the statute, the intention of the people to the intention of their agents."

- Alexander Hamilton; Federalist No. 78

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Are you REALLY an American?
Christsharia Law

Philadelphia, PA

#25 Dec 21, 2013
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
<quoted text>
Single judges should not have the right to rule on State referendums....
Referenda can be unconstitutional in the same way that laws (or other court decisions) can be unconstitutional, you buybull bangin' rube.

And these major decisions never wind up being by "single judges." Why don't you bible freeeks ever know the first thing about anything? Trash.
Truth matters

Thornhill, Canada

#26 Dec 21, 2013
This judge should face God oneday for hurting millions of kids for standing against their God given rights.

“Church | | State”

Since: Jun 07

Toby's Landing

#27 Dec 21, 2013
Truth wrote:
The 14th Amendment to the Constitution is the way I saw these bans as unconstitutional from the start.
That's exactly what I have been saying for years as well... The 14th amendment's equal protection clause and the Full Faith and Credit Clause in the Constitution itself would eventually make all those hateful state-by-state anti-marriage laws null and void.

I simply cannot wait to see a legion of heads spin round and round here in Alabama when it finally happens nationwide. Some of the people here will just explode with anger that their enshrinement of hate in the state constitution is struck down.
Christsharia Law

Philadelphia, PA

#28 Dec 21, 2013
Truth matters wrote:
This judge should face God....
Since you're not gawd you should have nothing to say about any such fantasy scenario.

Neither the US nor Canada is a theocracy. Your depraved, child abusing, homophobic "religious beliefs" have nothing to do with our laws.

Now get help for your sexual obsessions masquerading as outrage.
hi hi

Lancaster, PA

#29 Dec 21, 2013
Truth matters wrote:
This judge should face God oneday for hurting millions of kids for standing against their God given rights.
The pro-gay say the same, but in reverse: Those who deny gay marriage deny many children a loving family, and will roast alive in hell for it.
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#30 Dec 21, 2013
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
The German Reich and the Soviet Union distorted jurisprudence in the same way activist judges in America have distorted their power. Leftists arrange this attack on civil society intentionally as a way to gain total, tyrannical control and devalue Western democracy.
THIS is what we're devaluing; sugar:
http://m0.i.pbase.com/o6/04/318004/1/73285000...
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#31 Dec 21, 2013
Truth matters wrote:
This judge should face God oneday for hurting millions of kids for standing against their God given rights.
If GOD was on YOUR side yesterday; you would not be complaining today
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#32 Dec 21, 2013
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
<quoted text>
Single judges should not have the right to rule on State referendums already law. It is too much power for an individual. It destroys a citizenry's involvement and faith in democracy at any level.
This has now been written into the history books for future generations:
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'On December 20, 2013, Judge Shelby struck down Amendment 3 of Utah’s State Constitution, which defined marriage as a union solely between a man and a woman, opening the way for same-sex marriage in the state. He found that Amendment 3 was in violation of the U.S. Constitution’s 14th Amendment, which guarantees due process and equal protection'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_J._Shelby
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Isn't that marvelous!!!
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simply just MARVELOUS! ;o))

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#33 Dec 21, 2013
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
The German Reich and the Soviet Union distorted jurisprudence in the same way activist judges in America have distorted their power......
You are so darn funny!

You are REALLY trying to argue that Nazi's and Communist governments acted to PROTECT the basic human and civil rights, and religious freedoms of their populations, and increase the numbers of people who were protected by by law from irrational bigotry and harm?

Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#34 Dec 21, 2013
Gay People's American Citizenship comes with a written Guarantee
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And we just collected claim #1 with 30 more to go
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Breakthrough!
http://img1.etsystatic.com/000/0/6347658/il_5...

Since: Feb 10

Woodstock, Illinois

#35 Dec 21, 2013
The really fun part of this ruling is that, even with a stay, there is yet another case to be made in reference to Prop 8. According to the prop 8 ruling, once a right was given, revoking that right was also unconstitutional. The very bed that the Mormons made in California may now be theirs to sleep in at home.
U dont know duck

Nha Trang, Vietnam

#36 Dec 21, 2013
Truth matters wrote:
This judge should face God oneday for hurting millions of kids for standing against their God given rights.
who do U thinking;) Godie?!! God was dead YR AGO!! ;-000

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#37 Dec 21, 2013
Ron431 wrote:
The really fun part of this ruling is that, even with a stay, there is yet another case to be made in reference to Prop 8. According to the prop 8 ruling, once a right was given, revoking that right was also unconstitutional. The very bed that the Mormons made in California may now be theirs to sleep in at home.
I disagree. Just because a right is granted, it can be taken away at a later date, by a number of means for a number of reasons.

For instance, in 1756 Lydia Taft (1712–1778), was allowed to vote in town meetings in Uxbridge, Massachusetts.

New Jersey in 1776 placed only one restriction on the general suffrage, which was the possession of at least £50 in cash or property (about $8,000 adjusted for inflation), with the election laws referring to the voters as "he or she." In 1790, the law was revised to SPECIFICALLY INCLUDE WOMEN.

BUT, in 1807 the law was changed again to SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDE WOMEN.

Furthermore, many states have laws that TAKE AWAY THE RIGHTS of people convicted of felonies, such as the right to vote, and in many cases, those rights are prohibited to them for the remainder of their lives.

So what you say about rights not being able to be taken away is UNTRUE.
U dont know duck

Nha Trang, Vietnam

#38 Dec 21, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
<quoted text>
I disagree. Just because a right is granted, it can be taken away at a later date, by a number of means for a number of reasons.
For instance, in 1756 Lydia Taft (1712–1778), was allowed to vote in town meetings in Uxbridge, Massachusetts.
New Jersey in 1776 placed only one restriction on the general suffrage, which was the possession of at least £50 in cash or property (about $8,000 adjusted for inflation), with the election laws referring to the voters as "he or she." In 1790, the law was revised to SPECIFICALLY INCLUDE WOMEN.
BUT, in 1807 the law was changed again to SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDE WOMEN.
Furthermore, many states have laws that TAKE AWAY THE RIGHTS of people convicted of felonies, such as the right to vote, and in many cases, those rights are prohibited to them for the remainder of their lives.
So what you say about rights not being able to be taken away is UNTRUE.
hey foxy;) still alot of God Bmore speecher inda US??;-000

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Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#39 Dec 21, 2013
Also, the Edmunds–Tucker Act of 1887 specifically took the right to vote away form women in some territories. It was a federal law, and was not repealed until 1978.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#40 Dec 21, 2013
Marry Christmas Utah!

LMAO!

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