Elder Jensen to speak at Church Histo...

Elder Jensen to speak at Church History Museum

There are 3 comments on the Deseret News story from Jun 14, 2012, titled Elder Jensen to speak at Church History Museum. In it, Deseret News reports that:

Elder Marlin K. Jensen, former LDS Church historian and recorder, will be the featured speaker at the "Evenings at the Museum" event 7 p.m., Thursday, June 21, at the Church History Museum.

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Since: Sep 11

Chillicothe, MO

#1 Jun 14, 2012
Maybe he will speak about the old sow cannon on display in the museum that was stolen by Joseph Smith from Chillicothe Missouri Sherriff William O. Jennings on October 21, 1838. If he is honest, he will realize this one act provoked Jennings to attack Haun's Mill 9 days later. The fact is that the Mormons went into Livingston County to take the cannon perpetrated an illegal act. History is sadly muddled as to this history by many Mormon historians. What the Missourians was terrible, it is true, but why they did it will not serve the traditional Mormon talking points on this history. This is only one of many facts the church is unwilling to look at honestly. Zion might be an achievable goal when they put their house on order. Such a day would bring peace and clarity to all, not continuing the division and separation that has always existed. No one can do it for them. They can hasten or slow the progress.
Ashley Ingram

Savannah, GA

#2 Jul 25, 2012
Sheriff William Jennings did not rely on Joseph Smith "stealing" a cannon to be provoked into leading a Missouri State Militia to murder 15 men and two boys under the age of 12. History is on the side of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The Honorable Governor of Missouri signed legislation in 1976 receding the order that Missouri Governor signed in 1838: Governor Kit Bond rescinded Missouri Governor Boggs extermination order in 1976 it was legal to kill a Mormon in Missouri.

Here's - now U.S. Senator Kit Bond's apology to the Mormons:
WHEREAS, on October 27, 1838, the Governor of the State of Missouri, Lilburn W. Boggs, signed an order calling for the extermination or expulsion of Mormons from the State of Missouri; and

WHEREAS, Governor Boggs' order clearly contravened the rights to life, liberty, property and religious freedom as guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States, as well as the Constitution of the State of Missouri; and

WHEREAS, in this bicentennial year as we reflect on our nation's heritage, the exercise of religious freedom is without question one of the basic tenets of our free democratic republic;

Now, THEREFORE, I, CHRISTOPHER S. BOND, Governor of the State of Missouri, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the State of Missouri, do hereby order as follows:

Expressing on behalf of all Missourians our deep regret for the injustice and undue suffering which was caused by the 1838 order, I hereby rescind Executive Order Number 44, dated October 27, 1838, issued by Governor W. Boggs.

In witness I have hereunto set my hand and caused to be affixed the great seal of the State of Missouri, in the city of Jefferson, on this 25 day of June, 1976.

(Signed) Christopher S. Bond, Governor.

Mr. Foli (former Mayer of Chillicothe), I have read reveal of your internet post. I find it interesting that you write that in 2001 you issued an apology to President Hinckley. In 2007 you made reference to "your" Church or religion referring to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. In early 2008 you were excommunicated front the Church (meaning your name was removed from the roll of the Church against your will). Since that time your internet post seem to be increasingly bitter towards the Church that you once join (of your own free will) and that you evidently loved. I don't know the circumstances of your excommunication, but I know the men who sat in council and made the decision to excommunicate you did it to try and help you. As you know, the stake presidents, high councilors, and branch presidents don't get paid a penny for their service. I love the Church, and I recognize that the local leaders are not perfect. The don't always get everything perfect. But they don't deserve someone like you running the Church down and helping stir-up hatred against the Church. Perhaps if you go and talk with your local bishop or branch president, they will understand the mistakes (as you put it) and help you come back into the Church. You know the Church is true, you just have an issue with leaders who are not perfect. Get over it. If you think your situation is unjust and you have been treated unfairly, put yourself in the shoes of the poor souls at Hauns Mill on the evening of 30 October 1838. What did those kids and ladies to do deserve seeing their husbands and fathers murdered in cold blood? When your life is over, what side to you want to be on? I know for me, I want to stand on the side of truth. Were the Mormons of Missouri perfect in the 1830's? No they were not. But it is clear to any reasonable person that they were conspired against by Governor Boggs, the Militia, the mobs, the sheriffs, the ministers, and the judges. I'll stand with the Missouri Mormons any day over those who sought to run them out of Missouri. I find it very true that people can leave the Church, but they can't leave it alone. If you must write about our Church, please be honest.

Since: Sep 11

Chillicothe, MO

#3 Aug 15, 2012
The day after the Mormons stole the cannon, a militia was organized.

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