Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

There are 20 comments on the CNN story from Oct 12, 2011, titled Who says Mormons aren't Christians?. In it, CNN reports that:

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Haw Haw

Chicago, IL

#18869 Nov 20, 2012
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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You must think pretty highly of yourself that you think anyone requires a "pass" from you.
Believe me when I say: Your opinion of yourself is considerably higher than warranted.
No one requires, nor has anyone requested, a "pass" from you.
What's more, I will fight every attempt to institute same sex marriage with my support and my vote. Not because my church has told me to, because it hasn't, but because the Holy Bible itself, used by myriad religions organizations, declares homosexuality to be "abomination".
I'll take the unchanging word of God over the increasingly unsteady word of mankind.
"The road to Hell is paved with good intentions."
I wasn't talking to you, Mr. McVeigh, or is it Koresh. I really could care less what you think. I fully expect that you'll be in the news sometime for blowing up a federal building somewhere because your group didn't win the election.
Haw Haw

Chicago, IL

#18870 Nov 20, 2012
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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You must think pretty highly of yourself that you think anyone requires a "pass" from you.
Believe me when I say: Your opinion of yourself is considerably higher than warranted.
No one requires, nor has anyone requested, a "pass" from you.
What's more, I will fight every attempt to institute same sex marriage with my support and my vote. Not because my church has told me to, because it hasn't, but because the Holy Bible itself, used by myriad religions organizations, declares homosexuality to be "abomination".
I'll take the unchanging word of God over the increasingly unsteady word of mankind.
"The road to Hell is paved with good intentions."
And you're not going to get rid of me that easily either...
Haw Haw

Chicago, IL

#18871 Nov 20, 2012
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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The sickness is in your hatred and intolerance, and in your unnatural and unhealthy negative obsession with the LDS Church.
Suicide is the sad result of an individual's decision, nothing more. The suicide rate among gays, across the board and nationwide, is higher than the national average. It would appear that being gay is a far higher risk factor for suicide than being the member of any religion.
No one is involved with Evergreen unless they want to be, and it is a person's own choice to utilize the program. I support individual freedom, thus I support not only the existence of the organization, but the right of people to choose to become involved with it.
After reviewing West Ridge Academy's website (since I'd never heard of it before), and reading independent testimonials, I see it's purpose, and it is a good one. However, parents have the right to remove a child from West Ridge at any time, and parents remain in ultimate control. Again, free choice.
So again, you can harp away with your religious bigotry, but by now you must realize there are quite a few of us you simply cannot sway, primarily because we don't take you seriously at all.
Hatred and intolerance... words that only sound more rich coming from the likes of you - one who is the textbook definition of those terms.

You must also have a very high opinion of yourself if you believe that you taking anyone else seriously matters one fleck.

As far as a minor child getting involved with Evergreen, it's hardly their choice as well. If you, gay hater that you are, had a child that was stupid enough to confess SSA to you, you'd likely ship them off to get their genitals shocked. And THAT's the truth, bub.
Haw Haw

Chicago, IL

#18872 Nov 20, 2012
not ashamed wrote:
<quoted text>I haven't been thrown out and I make my views very clear. Teen suicide is among all cultures, especially the gay culture. Mormon or not. There shame is unfortunate and comes from parents of all religions. What you should be doing is advocating for them instead of spending so much energy arguing with Mormonism. If you truly care.
No, you haven't been thrown out because you don't take a stand. Making your views clear on an anonymous forum is hardly "taking a stand." And those views above are hardly the kind of stand that is courageous in light of the active abuse and barbarism that your cult really practices. You're a milquetoast.

Since: May 10

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#18873 Nov 20, 2012
NoMo wrote:
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Did u know.. Ur group is a minority now? U old white male homophobic bigoted gun toting creeps are a minority. How does it feel? Or has it really sunk in yet?
U are a really sick freak to support evergreen and west ridge. It doesn't surprise me. U cultists are predictable aren't u?
So?

You lefties work under the impression that life is some sort of popularity contest. It isn't. It's about what's right, not about what makes one "socially acceptable".

If that makes me a minority, so be it. I've voted for Pat Robertson for President, James "Bo" Gritz for President, and Pat Buchanan for President. One can hardly find smaller minorities than that. I wear the label with pride.

Since: May 10

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#18874 Nov 20, 2012
Haw Haw wrote:
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I wasn't talking to you, Mr. McVeigh, or is it Koresh. I really could care less what you think. I fully expect that you'll be in the news sometime for blowing up a federal building somewhere because your group didn't win the election.
Doesn't matter who you were "talking" to. I laid the bait, and you took it and responded.

As for blowing up stuff, that's the general MO of you leftists, along with your buddies in Al Quaeda.

Being that the left is going to implode eventually, guaranteed, there is nothing for me to do but go about my business, sit back, and watch.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#18875 Nov 20, 2012
Haw Haw wrote:
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And you're not going to get rid of me that easily either...
Get rid of you? Heck no. I want you to stick around as an object of my ridicule and derision.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#18876 Nov 20, 2012
Haw Haw wrote:
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Hatred and intolerance... words that only sound more rich coming from the likes of you - one who is the textbook definition of those terms.
You must also have a very high opinion of yourself if you believe that you taking anyone else seriously matters one fleck.
As far as a minor child getting involved with Evergreen, it's hardly their choice as well. If you, gay hater that you are, had a child that was stupid enough to confess SSA to you, you'd likely ship them off to get their genitals shocked. And THAT's the truth, bub.
I've heard the results are "nothing short of shocking!"

Bwaaaaahaaahaaahaaahaaahaaahaa !

High opinion of myself? Damn straight!

"Be always sure you are right, then go ahead!" -David Crockett

Since: Oct 08

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#18877 Nov 20, 2012
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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I've heard the results are "nothing short of shocking!"
Bwaaaaahaaahaaahaaahaaahaaahaa !
High opinion of myself? Damn straight!
"Be always sure you are right, then go ahead!" -David Crockett
Torture is funny to u.. Wow. have a little graveyard of animals when u were a kid? Dick Cheney did..but he's ur hero, isn't he?

&fe ature=youtube_gdata_player

Since: May 10

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#18878 Nov 20, 2012
NoMo wrote:
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Torture is funny to u.. Wow. have a little graveyard of animals when u were a kid? Dick Cheney did..but he's ur hero, isn't he?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =OL-SyC2jvzwXX&feature=you tube_gdata_player
Is torture funny to me?

No.

Sometimes torture is necessary, but what Evergreen does is not torture. It's not even on par with waterboarding, and THAT isn't torture either.

But YOU are funny to me. It's very entertaining to rattle the cages of self-righteous lefties like you.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#18879 Nov 20, 2012
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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I'll take the unchanging word of God over the increasingly unsteady word of mankind.
"The road to Hell is paved with good intentions."
That statement isn't in scripture.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#18880 Nov 20, 2012
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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Is torture funny to me?
No.
Sometimes torture is necessary, but what Evergreen does is not torture. It's not even on par with waterboarding, and THAT isn't torture either.
But YOU are funny to me. It's very entertaining to rattle the cages of self-righteous lefties like you.
Waterboarding is torture. It doesn't do any permanent physical damage, but it is torture. And what they are doing at Evergreen is not for the good of the country.

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#18881 Nov 20, 2012
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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Is torture funny to me?
No.
Sometimes torture is necessary, but what Evergreen does is not torture. It's not even on par with waterboarding, and THAT isn't torture either.
But YOU are funny to me. It's very entertaining to rattle the cages of self-righteous lefties like you.
Shocking someone's genitals with electricity is torture.
Haw Haw

Chicago, IL

#18882 Nov 20, 2012
NoMo wrote:
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Shocking someone's genitals with electricity is torture.
We all now know that Mr. Michigan Militia thinks shocking genitals with electricity is not only NOT torture, but is hilariously funny besides! No real surprise there... Crazy I'm sure, even though he claims to have a gay "best friend" would likely think the same way. Again, no real surprise.

Now what we're all waiting for is to hear from Miss Sweet Wishy Washy Can't Decide Honey Bun about whether or not SHE believes that her cult administering electricity and ipecac to self-confessed gays is or is not torture. She of course has already denied that it ever even happened, but what would she think if it were proven that they did and still do it today... That's what I truly want to hear. It would be truly ironic if her real first name were... Sandy... As that's where her head is.
Haw Haw

Chicago, IL

#18883 Nov 20, 2012
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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Get rid of you? Heck no. I want you to stick around as an object of my ridicule and derision.
Good. I'm glad to hear that you at least respect my right to post in a public forum. I love it when you post here too, because you betray the morally bankrupt truth about your own side.

I see that you have trouble with the facts just like your men Rmoney and Ryan. Namely that the extremists who've gotten on the wrong side of the law were not of the left wing, they were rightists.

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#18885 Nov 20, 2012
Haw Haw wrote:
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We all now know that Mr. Michigan Militia thinks shocking genitals with electricity is not only NOT torture, but is hilariously funny besides! No real surprise there... Crazy I'm sure, even though he claims to have a gay "best friend" would likely think the same way. Again, no real surprise.
Now what we're all waiting for is to hear from Miss Sweet Wishy Washy Can't Decide Honey Bun about whether or not SHE believes that her cult administering electricity and ipecac to self-confessed gays is or is not torture. She of course has already denied that it ever even happened, but what would she think if it were proven that they did and still do it today... That's what I truly want to hear. It would be truly ironic if her real first name were... Sandy... As that's where her head is.
California gets it right. I'm sure Utah will be the last place on the planet to ban it....well, maybe they will tie with Uganda.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/09/30/1138... #

Since: Sep 12

Branson, MO

#18886 Nov 20, 2012
Haw Haw wrote:
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We all now know that Mr. Michigan Militia thinks shocking genitals with electricity is not only NOT torture, but is hilariously funny besides! No real surprise there... Crazy I'm sure, even though he claims to have a gay "best friend" would likely think the same way. Again, no real surprise.
Now what we're all waiting for is to hear from Miss Sweet Wishy Washy Can't Decide Honey Bun about whether or not SHE believes that her cult administering electricity and ipecac to self-confessed gays is or is not torture. She of course has already denied that it ever even happened, but what would she think if it were proven that they did and still do it today... That's what I truly want to hear. It would be truly ironic if her real first name were... Sandy... As that's where her head is.
Since you're trying to pull me out by "baiting" me, I'll play... I don't "claim" anything. He IS my business partner, and he happens to be gay, so what? But, he's much more than that. His whole identity is not consumed by his sexuality, unlike you. Also, you are incorrect in your assumption, once again. I guess that's why you are such a dumbass. You do, however, have a better chance of turning into that fly, maggot, than guessing anything correctly about me, Twink.

“I will not keep calm”

Since: Mar 08

Raise hell...change the world

#18887 Nov 20, 2012
Haw Haw wrote:
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We all now know that Mr. Michigan Militia thinks shocking genitals with electricity is not only NOT torture, but is hilariously funny besides! No real surprise there... Crazy I'm sure, even though he claims to have a gay "best friend" would likely think the same way. Again, no real surprise.
Now what we're all waiting for is to hear from Miss Sweet Wishy Washy Can't Decide Honey Bun about whether or not SHE believes that her cult administering electricity and ipecac to self-confessed gays is or is not torture. She of course has already denied that it ever even happened, but what would she think if it were proven that they did and still do it today... That's what I truly want to hear. It would be truly ironic if her first name were... Sandy... As that's where her head is.
Well I'm glad you think i'm so sweet, which is Ironic since my response for you after the day I have had is SCREW YOU.
I don't feel the need to tell you about the many ways I stand up for others, weather they are of my religion or not. I don't need to repeat my views on homosexuality , yet again. I feel no need to prove myself to you. You know nothing about me and it matters not to me.
Taking a stand for what I believe in doesn't mean I have to be over bearing or a Jackass. You see me as wishy washy, a naive woman with my head in the sand. Someone who sits on the fence. None of which is true. For things that truly matter to me, I make my opinions more than clear. Just ask my Bishop about the church event that I boycotted. Didn't make me a favorite among the priesthood, accept for the ones with a sense of humor. The rest asked their wives to steer clear of the trouble maker.
At the end of the day, I don't have to please you, or the church. I have to please Christ.
And I have to please me. I rest well at night knowing that I have treated others well. If you feel the need to prove yourself to everyone here, go for it. I don't need to.
In closing.......... bite me!

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#18888 Nov 20, 2012
not ashamed wrote:
<quoted text>Well I'm glad you think i'm so sweet, which is Ironic since my response for you after the day I have had is SCREW YOU.
I don't feel the need to tell you about the many ways I stand up for others, weather they are of my religion or not. I don't need to repeat my views on homosexuality , yet again. I feel no need to prove myself to you. You know nothing about me and it matters not to me.
Taking a stand for what I believe in doesn't mean I have to be over bearing or a Jackass. You see me as wishy washy, a naive woman with my head in the sand. Someone who sits on the fence. None of which is true. For things that truly matter to me, I make my opinions more than clear. Just ask my Bishop about the church event that I boycotted. Didn't make me a favorite among the priesthood, accept for the ones with a sense of humor. The rest asked their wives to steer clear of the trouble maker.
At the end of the day, I don't have to please you, or the church. I have to please Christ.
And I have to please me. I rest well at night knowing that I have treated others well. If you feel the need to prove yourself to everyone here, go for it. I don't need to.
In closing.......... bite me!
It's that cloying sickly sweet thing ..

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#18889 Nov 20, 2012
NoMo wrote:
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How un suprising..sick of eating apocalypse food yet? What exactly do u do with a 100 lb sack of wheat?
Good question: you grind it up and make bread out of it.

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